FCPS Skyview Boundary Scenario 1/2/3

[Anonymous]

Every thing FCPS says makes a bigger mess and confuses people more.

You can see from the text pp posted that they aren't making any promises. When they come out with a map that inevitably moves some walkers to bus riders, people will scream.

They need to stop making one-off promises to specific areas and talking out of both sides of their mouth.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody seems to be talking about the part of the email a couple weeks ago that said walkers would be frozen from the boundary review. Did I read that correctly? If so, that makes things more complex because you can't just send all of Lees Corner or all of Brookfield or all of Poplar Tree to Westfield because these schools all have some walkers to Chantilly.

Lees Corner isn’t moving from Chantilly HS to Westfield now. And yes, walkers have something to do with it.

Way to miss the point

I answered your question ding dong. Yes, they did say they wouldn’t move walkers from a school. So yes Lees Corner is safe. Both things are true.

You're the ding dong. If they aren't moving Lees Corner because they have walkers then they aren't moving Brookfield or Poplar Tree because they too have walkers. Unless they move just the outermost neighborhoods that aren't walkers, but then that creates messy split feeder issues. Therefore the "easier" solution that also appears to have less outrage is to move the kids already on a bus to Centreville to a bus going to Westfield. We can end the thread now.

That is correct ding dong. Both can be true. They won’t be moving walkers so those feeders can relax. The new maps will probably be a lot more conservative.

[Anonymous]

Where did they say they weren't moving walkers?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Where did they say they weren't moving walkers?

They didn't put that in writing anywhere. Maybe at a meeting?

[Anonymous]

Oh please, if they actually cared about equity they would have gotten rid of IB and put AP in every HS during the last boundary adjustment.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Oh please, if they actually cared about equity they would have gotten rid of IB and put AP in every HS during the last boundary adjustment.

Maybe, but the nonsense in western Fairfax stems from people not wanting to attend two AP schools - Herndon and Westfield.

Buying KAA when there were 600 empty seats at Herndon was stupid, and now you’ve got all these people arguing that someone else - and not them - should get moved to Westfield.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh please, if they actually cared about equity they would have gotten rid of IB and put AP in every HS during the last boundary adjustment.

Maybe, but the nonsense in western Fairfax stems from people not wanting to attend two AP schools - Herndon and Westfield.

Buying KAA when there were 600 empty seats at Herndon was stupid, and now you’ve got all these people arguing that someone else - and not them - should get moved to Westfield.

You don’t want them redistricting to fill Herndon because those moves are coming from Langley and South Lakes, not Westfield or Chantilly or Oakton. Skyview is closer to McNair and Coates than Herndon. And Herndon would have 200 or so more kids if SLHS was AP because the Herndon kids wouldn’t be able to pupil place to SLHS. Which means that 600 seat gap becomes 400 and the move of the Langley kids takes up most of that 400 seat gap.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody seems to be talking about the part of the email a couple weeks ago that said walkers would be frozen from the boundary review. Did I read that correctly? If so, that makes things more complex because you can't just send all of Lees Corner or all of Brookfield or all of Poplar Tree to Westfield because these schools all have some walkers to Chantilly.

Lees Corner isn’t moving from Chantilly HS to Westfield now. And yes, walkers have something to do with it.

Way to miss the point

I answered your question ding dong. Yes, they did say they wouldn’t move walkers from a school. So yes Lees Corner is safe. Both things are true.

You're the ding dong. If they aren't moving Lees Corner because they have walkers then they aren't moving Brookfield or Poplar Tree because they too have walkers. Unless they move just the outermost neighborhoods that aren't walkers, but then that creates messy split feeder issues. Therefore the "easier" solution that also appears to have less outrage is to move the kids already on a bus to Centreville to a bus going to Westfield. We can end the thread now.

That is correct ding dong. Both can be true. They won’t be moving walkers so those feeders can relax. The new maps will probably be a lot more conservative.

Yet we have 100 pages arguing which feeder is going to be moved.

[Anonymous]

They never put in writing that they aren't moving walkers. Sorry folks. They are very weaselly with the wording.

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody seems to be talking about the part of the email a couple weeks ago that said walkers would be frozen from the boundary review. Did I read that correctly? If so, that makes things more complex because you can't just send all of Lees Corner or all of Brookfield or all of Poplar Tree to Westfield because these schools all have some walkers to Chantilly.

Lees Corner isn’t moving from Chantilly HS to Westfield now. And yes, walkers have something to do with it.

Way to miss the point

I answered your question ding dong. Yes, they did say they wouldn’t move walkers from a school. So yes Lees Corner is safe. Both things are true.

You're the ding dong. If they aren't moving Lees Corner because they have walkers then they aren't moving Brookfield or Poplar Tree because they too have walkers. Unless they move just the outermost neighborhoods that aren't walkers, but then that creates messy split feeder issues. Therefore the "easier" solution that also appears to have less outrage is to move the kids already on a bus to Centreville to a bus going to Westfield. We can end the thread now.

Frantic Lees Corner Mom is demanding everyone stop discussing pros and cons to moving Chantilly HS neighborhoods to Westfield (which is in Chantilly).

You aren't hearing "outrage" from those Centreville neighborhoods because that demographic doesn't post on here (they have a petition which we all know is not nearly as effective as having the connections to get in person in front of SB members or Reid) and there is one Chantilly parent who sits on here 24-7 screeching whenever the topic comes up.

I disagree with sending disadvantaged kids much farther away to a school with a higher FARMs rates that they don't want to attend. I don't think FCPS should be consolidating all the
lower SES kids at one Western high school to improve the situation of everyone else. How is that "equitable"?

LOL! I guess Centreville mom would be shocked if she knew that Lee's Corner has a Fairfax address.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Nobody seems to be talking about the part of the email a couple weeks ago that said walkers would be frozen from the boundary review. Did I read that correctly? If so, that makes things more complex because you can't just send all of Lees Corner or all of Brookfield or all of Poplar Tree to Westfield because these schools all have some walkers to Chantilly.

Lees Corner isn’t moving from Chantilly HS to Westfield now. And yes, walkers have something to do with it.

Way to miss the point

I answered your question ding dong. Yes, they did say they wouldn’t move walkers from a school. So yes Lees Corner is safe. Both things are true.

None of Lees Corner is an official walker to Chantilly. While a lot of people do walk, they are technically kids who ride buses because of crossing route 50. So of the arguments that Lees Corner had, that one was not a good one.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh please, if they actually cared about equity they would have gotten rid of IB and put AP in every HS during the last boundary adjustment.

Maybe, but the nonsense in western Fairfax stems from people not wanting to attend two AP schools - Herndon and Westfield.

Buying KAA when there were 600 empty seats at Herndon was stupid, and now you’ve got all these people arguing that someone else - and not them - should get moved to Westfield.

You don’t want them redistricting to fill Herndon because those moves are coming from Langley and South Lakes, not Westfield or Chantilly or Oakton. Skyview is closer to McNair and Coates than Herndon. And Herndon would have 200 or so more kids if SLHS was AP because the Herndon kids wouldn’t be able to pupil place to SLHS. Which means that 600 seat gap becomes 400 and the move of the Langley kids takes up most of that 400 seat gap.

You must live in a total fantasy land. They aren't getting rid of IB nor are they moving Langley kids to Herndon.

They are spending hundreds of millions on Skyview to avoid moving Westfield kids to Herndon, and in return they still end up with parents fighting over who gets moved to Westfield to backfill it. If they were going for a Kumbaya moment, it was fleeting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Oh please, if they actually cared about equity they would have gotten rid of IB and put AP in every HS during the last boundary adjustment.

Maybe, but the nonsense in western Fairfax stems from people not wanting to attend two AP schools - Herndon and Westfield.

Buying KAA when there were 600 empty seats at Herndon was stupid, and now you’ve got all these people arguing that someone else - and not them - should get moved to Westfield.

You don’t want them redistricting to fill Herndon because those moves are coming from Langley and South Lakes, not Westfield or Chantilly or Oakton. Skyview is closer to McNair and Coates than Herndon. And Herndon would have 200 or so more kids if SLHS was AP because the Herndon kids wouldn’t be able to pupil place to SLHS. Which means that 600 seat gap becomes 400 and the move of the Langley kids takes up most of that 400 seat gap.

You must live in a total fantasy land. They aren't getting rid of IB nor are they moving Langley kids to Herndon.

They are spending hundreds of millions on Skyview to avoid moving Westfield kids to Herndon, and in return they still end up with parents fighting over who gets moved to Westfield to backfill it. If they were going for a Kumbaya moment, it was fleeting.

Funny. They keep claiming that the Skyview kids should not have left Westfield. Now they are claiming they should go to Herndon.
This is why we need Skyview--to have a high school IN the community--not outsourcing the kids to other communities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh please, if they actually cared about equity they would have gotten rid of IB and put AP in every HS during the last boundary adjustment.

Maybe, but the nonsense in western Fairfax stems from people not wanting to attend two AP schools - Herndon and Westfield.

Buying KAA when there were 600 empty seats at Herndon was stupid, and now you’ve got all these people arguing that someone else - and not them - should get moved to Westfield.

You don’t want them redistricting to fill Herndon because those moves are coming from Langley and South Lakes, not Westfield or Chantilly or Oakton. Skyview is closer to McNair and Coates than Herndon. And Herndon would have 200 or so more kids if SLHS was AP because the Herndon kids wouldn’t be able to pupil place to SLHS. Which means that 600 seat gap becomes 400 and the move of the Langley kids takes up most of that 400 seat gap.

You must live in a total fantasy land. They aren't getting rid of IB nor are they moving Langley kids to Herndon.

They are spending hundreds of millions on Skyview to avoid moving Westfield kids to Herndon, and in return they still end up with parents fighting over who gets moved to Westfield to backfill it. If they were going for a Kumbaya moment, it was fleeting.

Funny. They keep claiming that the Skyview kids should not have left Westfield. Now they are claiming they should go to Herndon.
This is why we need Skyview--to have a high school IN the community--not outsourcing the kids to other communities.

Who exactly is "they"?

The reality is that FCPS can't open Skyview as a traditional HS without inconveniencing many families that won't even end up zoned there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Oh please, if they actually cared about equity they would have gotten rid of IB and put AP in every HS during the last boundary adjustment.

Maybe, but the nonsense in western Fairfax stems from people not wanting to attend two AP schools - Herndon and Westfield.

Buying KAA when there were 600 empty seats at Herndon was stupid, and now you’ve got all these people arguing that someone else - and not them - should get moved to Westfield.

Moving the 20171 kids from Westfield to Herndon solves nothing. They need their own high school.