Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Very sad situation here all around. But yeah, I agree with this:

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Too soon and awkward. But we need to stop kids from thinking they all can quit their jobs, sell what little possessions they own, and become “influencers.” That market is already super saturated. It’s harsh, but YouTube shouldn’t glorify two Publix baggers that drive into the desert and watch as bad things happen.

I have several extended family members (cousins) who think they're going to be a YouTube influencer, Instagram celebrity, etc. It's a super f**ked up plan for one's life and is bound to lead to tragedy, even if not as dramatic as this one.

Come on parents. We have to do better at keeping these social media apps away from kids when they are at their most vulnerable young pre-teen ages and point them in a real direction so they actually do something with their life.

I don't think the area is oversaturated. If you're a good video editor, are charismatic, and doing something that is currently "in" and being searched for, you will slowly build a following. The problem is that it takes years for Youtube stars to build up enough followers to get a decent amount of ad revenue and sponsorships. Current stars either started in high school and had enough followers by the time they graduated to make it their full time job, or they had a flexible job that allowed them to build their channel on the side. That being said, it is not a great career for mental health. Depending on what you're doing, it can be very isolating and hard to have a routine. You're also constantly stressing about new content and staying relevant. On top of that, if you do make it big, you need to have thick skin to deal with all the internet hate comments. Not very long ago there was a successful Youtube van lifer who commited suicide.

[Anonymous]

Social media didn't kill her.

Bagging groceries this summer didn't kill her.

A top notch job in DC wouldn't have saved her.

FOCUS on the issue of abuse and control by her boyfriend. It can happen to your daughters, even with your high HHI, safe neighborhood, and PERFECT parenting.

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Anonymous wrote:My richest family member didn't attend college. It's really not relevant here though if they did or did not.

Neither riches nor a college education is going to protect you from this sort of thing. You people need to go back to college to pick up critical thinking skills you missed in the first go round.

Well, financial self-sufficiency can factor into whether someone feels able to leave an abuser, so there's that.

You are wrong. /domestic abuse survivor

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My richest family member didn't attend college. It's really not relevant here though if they did or did not.

Neither riches nor a college education is going to protect you from this sort of thing. You people need to go back to college to pick up critical thinking skills you missed in the first go round.

Well, financial self-sufficiency can factor into whether someone feels able to leave an abuser, so there's that.

Yes and no.

Unfortunately, domestic violence is something that is fairly consistent across all demographic indicators. You are just as likely to be a DV victim regardless of education, race, ethnicity, income level. It's sad. We have to change how society treats abusers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Too soon and awkward. But we need to stop kids from thinking they all can quit their jobs, sell what little possessions they own, and become “influencers.” That market is already super saturated. It’s harsh, but YouTube shouldn’t glorify two Publix baggers that drive into the desert and watch as bad things happen.

Kids? They were 22 and 23. Exactly how do you propose we stop them from doing anything?

How do we all have good heads on our shoulders? It must be something to do with parenting. My parents and my inlaws collectively raised 5 children to be fully self sufficient immediately after college and not date/marry losers. That can’t be all luck.

Sure it can. I know multiple families in which two kids are successful and a third or fourth, as you put it, dates and marries losers. All sorts of birth orders. Personally I feel grateful not to have fallen in love with an abusive asshole. Not everyone is so lucky or has the strength to free themselves. Especially at 22.

Some of it is luck. A lot of it is smart choices and doses of reality from parents. For starters, not graduating college was not an option. Living in the basement for more than a transitional month or two was not an option.

You really think graduating from college determines whether women fall prey to abusers and murderers?

No. But I think it’s a problem that this girl’s entire self worth was attached to her loser boyfriend and her YouTube channel. Parents who think there is no harm in social media pay attention.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Social media didn't kill her.

Bagging groceries this summer didn't kill her.

A top notch job in DC wouldn't have saved her.

FOCUS on the issue of abuse and control by her boyfriend. It can happen to your daughters, even with your high HHI, safe neighborhood, and PERFECT parenting.

Yes, anyone can fall for the wrong guy and a skilled abuser can make anyone feel worthless and too scared or beat down to run.

At the same time, if your career prospects and hopes and dreams are tied into portraying a picture perfect lifestyle, you may hesitate before leaving a relationship that can be shined up on camera and convince yourself that it's really not so bad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Social media didn't kill her.

Bagging groceries this summer didn't kill her.

A top notch job in DC wouldn't have saved her.

FOCUS on the issue of abuse and control by her boyfriend. It can happen to your daughters, even with your high HHI, safe neighborhood, and PERFECT parenting.

Of course. The person to blame is the killer - almost certainly her boyfriend.

It doesn't change the fact that we should, as parents and as a society, discourage young people from trying to become social media superstars instead of getting a real education and a real job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Social media didn't kill her.

Bagging groceries this summer didn't kill her.

A top notch job in DC wouldn't have saved her.

FOCUS on the issue of abuse and control by her boyfriend. It can happen to your daughters, even with your high HHI, safe neighborhood, and PERFECT parenting.

I'm not going to blame the parents but Gabby voluntarily walked into this 'issue of abuse and control'. Why was she living jobless and educationless at his parents house?

Look at her Instagram account. Dates back to 2017 and there are NO pictures of her with his family or relatives. Either they didn't like her or she didn't like them, but she only posted when she was on the road or vacation.

There was no reason for her to be in this situation. Even if she didn't want to follow a traditional education/career path, go live with your parents and don't slum with an abusive boyfriend for no reason.

[Anonymous]

She most likely took the summer job with groceries to afford the used van and the interior - they took out the seats and put a thin mattress on top of two fruit boxes.

She wanted to be out of his parents house but the only effort the two of them did to becoming functioning adults was temporary jobs and dreams of a Juice Bar.

I think the boyfriend is a POS but like a lot of couples - the motive seems to come back down to abuse and finances.

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Anonymous wrote:My richest family member didn't attend college. It's really not relevant here though if they did or did not.

Neither riches nor a college education is going to protect you from this sort of thing. You people need to go back to college to pick up critical thinking skills you missed in the first go round.

Well, financial self-sufficiency can factor into whether someone feels able to leave an abuser, so there's that.

Yes and no.

Unfortunately, domestic violence is something that is fairly consistent across all demographic indicators. You are just as likely to be a DV victim regardless of education, race, ethnicity, income level. It's sad. We have to change how society treats abusers.

My family made it possible financially for me to leave, but they had no idea they even needed to extend help because he had isolated and brain-washed me for so long. I had to want to leave to even consider the financial hurdle.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Too soon and awkward. But we need to stop kids from thinking they all can quit their jobs, sell what little possessions they own, and become “influencers.” That market is already super saturated. It’s harsh, but YouTube shouldn’t glorify two Publix baggers that drive into the desert and watch as bad things happen.

Kids? They were 22 and 23. Exactly how do you propose we stop them from doing anything?

How do we all have good heads on our shoulders? It must be something to do with parenting. My parents and my inlaws collectively raised 5 children to be fully self sufficient immediately after college and not date/marry losers. That can’t be all luck.

Sure it can. I know multiple families in which two kids are successful and a third or fourth, as you put it, dates and marries losers. All sorts of birth orders. Personally I feel grateful not to have fallen in love with an abusive asshole. Not everyone is so lucky or has the strength to free themselves. Especially at 22.

Some of it is luck. A lot of it is smart choices and doses of reality from parents. For starters, not graduating college was not an option. Living in the basement for more than a transitional month or two was not an option.

My young teenager thinks she is going to be a minecraft you tuber. We talk a lot about back up plans and I'm operating under the assumption that he will change his mind between now and then.

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Anonymous wrote:Just read that Gabby's dad was on Dr Phil, and he said she is not OCD diagnosed, she might have called herself "OCD" on video in a non-leyeral way, like she enjoys keeping her stuff orderly.

I think we heard that Brian was actually OCD though?

Anyway, I am irritated by mental illness accusations going at Gabby. She might have had anxiety and for good reason.

I saw the beginning part of that interview. Really weird. Even D. Phil was thrown off by some of the dad’s answers and things he said.

Very weird interview. It seems obvious where Gabby’s mental disorders came from. Sad she did not get help in time, and jumped into that van instead.

Gabby's dad moved to Florida to be near to her, never liked any of her boyfriends and called them by the female version of their names. Brian was "Brianne." He did that to "intimidate" them.
So, yeah, Gabby didn't know what a healthy relationship with a man was. All she knew was overprotection, control and intimidation.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My richest family member didn't attend college. It's really not relevant here though if they did or did not.

Neither riches nor a college education is going to protect you from this sort of thing. You people need to go back to college to pick up critical thinking skills you missed in the first go round.

Well, financial self-sufficiency can factor into whether someone feels able to leave an abuser, so there's that.

You are wrong. /domestic abuse survivor

No, you are. It can definitely play a role. /domestic abuse survivor

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Too soon and awkward. But we need to stop kids from thinking they all can quit their jobs, sell what little possessions they own, and become “influencers.” That market is already super saturated. It’s harsh, but YouTube shouldn’t glorify two Publix baggers that drive into the desert and watch as bad things happen.

Kids? They were 22 and 23. Exactly how do you propose we stop them from doing anything?

By telling them they’re idiots and don’t call for money in two days when you’re broke.

This!!! While tragic and we have no idea what happened (regardless of what the scum sleuths believe), she appeared to have a nack for pretending her life was amazing. I wonder if she stayed in an abusive relationship longer, in part, because of the impact it would have on her “image” if she left and her “perfect” relationship fell apart.

+1

And money.

For the other PP's no matter how rich you are, abusers do exist. In fact, abusers are known for presenting one face to the public, and another face behind closed doors.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Too soon and awkward. But we need to stop kids from thinking they all can quit their jobs, sell what little possessions they own, and become “influencers.” That market is already super saturated. It’s harsh, but YouTube shouldn’t glorify two Publix baggers that drive into the desert and watch as bad things happen.

Kids? They were 22 and 23. Exactly how do you propose we stop them from doing anything?

By telling them they’re idiots and don’t call for money in two days when you’re broke.

This!!! While tragic and we have no idea what happened (regardless of what the scum sleuths believe), she appeared to have a nack for pretending her life was amazing. I wonder if she stayed in an abusive relationship longer, in part, because of the impact it would have on her “image” if she left and her “perfect” relationship fell apart.

+1

And money.

For the other PP's no matter how rich you are, abusers do exist. In fact, abusers are known for presenting one face to the public, and another face behind closed doors.

That's every Instagram influencer/Mom blogger in existence. All of them lie. Shanann Watts being the most recent famed version of 'oh my life and kids are perfect' until she's headlined on national news as strangled in her bed by said husband.