U.S. War against Iran

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Anonymous wrote:www.timesofisrael.com/us-israeli-militaries-jointly-drilled-iran-strike-during-biden-administration-report/amp/

US, Israeli militaries jointly drilled Iran strike during Biden administration – report

Last March, the Israeli Air Force held a joint exercise with the US Air Force, in what was seen at the time as a message to Tehran.
By ToI Staff
Today, 12:50 pm

Israeli Air Force F-15I and F-35I fighter jets fly alongside a US B-52 bomber during a drill on March 4, 2025. (Israel Defense Forces)

The US and Israel drilled an American strike on Iran about a year ago, according to a report published early Sunday as the US military launched an unprecedented attack against the Islamic Republic’s nuclear facilities.

The exercise was planned and executed during the Biden administration.

So basically everyone screaming and yelling at Trump should realize that the same would have scenario would have occurred under Biden/Harris.

Both parties are bought and controlled by Israel/Netanyahu.

Shaking a stick at someone is very different than hitting them with a stick.

Didn't Trump at least negotiate a ceasefire. Meanwhile Kamala was exposed for lying about not even bothering for one. And Biden even proclaimed that he was the biggest Zionist of them all.

No, Trump has not negotiated a cease fire. Where on earth did you get that idea?

When he came into office

LOL, nope.

Get new sources of information.

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And what was the vietnam war? Congress never declared war there either and yet it went on for years.

POTUS is commander in chief and has executive authority to take immediate action in the interests of national security.

If you want to hang him, then hang him for the actual unconstitutional crap he has done. And there is a lot of it.

But our national security was not under immanent threat from Iran.

Was it under imminent threat from vietnam?

I would suggest that Iran's nuclear program is an imminent threat to everyone's national security.

Isn’t everyone’s nuclear arsenal a threat to global security?

It is. We made a terrible mistake after the end of the Cold War in allowing nuclear proliferation to... proliferate. North Korea and Pakistan are the big ones. There's no walking back now. They have them, and it changes things. Weirdo North Korea and unstable Pakistan are not countries we want with nukes. Regarding Iran, the world has spent twenty years encouraging Iran to keep things at the civilian level. Which would have been fine for everyone. Nothing wrong with nuclear energy.

But Iran went full on with enrichment to near weapons grade and they have a very advanced ballistic missile system. I don't like Trump, but he did the world a favor here. It's one thing if France or the UK or even Israel has nukes - stable democratic countries who would never use them in any kind of offensive capacity. It's an all together different thing with Iran - a repressive police state ruled by an 86 year old religious zealot with dreams of martyrdom. From Tel Aviv to Riyadh, the entire Middle East would face obliteration with an Iran with nukes. It's important to remember that Iran's issues are not just with Israel. But with the entire Sunni world.

Good for Trump for not being a TACO here. The entire planet is happy with this.

Allowing Israel to have nuclear weapon was the biggest mistake and the greatest threat to the continuation of the human race. The US providing arms and aid to Israel just compounds the problem.


It is too bad the US attacked Iran based on the lies propagated by Israel. Iran did have a nuclear weapon, did not have fissionable
material and was not taking any steps to develop a nuclear weapon.

It is important to remember Israel will not stop with Iran. Israelis are planing to attack Turkey next. All the problems in the Middle East can be traced back to Israel.

Israel went to nuclear weapons in 1967, nearly sixty years ago. Even with all the conflict they've experienced, nuclear war has never been on the table for them. Say what you will about Israel, but they are reliably sane when it comes to the use of nuclear weapons. It's a rational country.

But the Iranian leadership is not. Messianic Shi'a extremists have different calculations. And Iran is huge. They can survive a nuclear attack. Israel can't. There are different priorities and risk calculations. Iran has been engaged in proxy wars against Sunni muslims for many years. Do not underestimate how religious extremism rots the brain.

And what is this nonsense about Israel invading Turkey, a NATO country with whom Israel has pretty good relations? Progressives and their TikTok garbage are lowering the IQ of so many people. Try reading a book from time to time.

I am more concerned about christian fundementalists who are awaiting the rapture who hold nukes than I am the Iranians.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not a MAGA supporter at all, but what other options were there?

We've tried it the Dems' way for year, and for what? To see North Korea now nuclear with ICBM capabilities and Iran on the verge of going nuclear? We tried the carrot for many years, it didn't work. Now they're getting the stick.

What good are US treaties and alliances if you're not willing to back them up with spine? If Iran went nuclear, then so would Saudi Arabia. Then Jordan. Then who knows. Nuclear proliferation gets out of control because Iran would have made a mockery out of decades of hard fought anti-proloferation efforts.

What did we get for Obama's $2B in cash pallets dropped on Iran? Nothing, just a continuation of a a nuke buildup. The US has been weak for too long while world order is going in the toilet and the whole world is getting lit on fire. It's time to bring them is garbage under control with the big stick.

If the US did nothing, what's next? The US would have been seen as a paper tiger, that's what happens. Now Taiwan goes up in smoke in a few years, and all hell breaks loose on the Korean peninsula and Japan.

Talk is cheap. If there is real fear that the US will act on its warnings, it will absolutely make others think twice before making bold moves to break international order.

So now we bomb DPRK, Pakistan, and Russia because they have nukes? Why are countries with atomic bombs policing other countries who may or may not have them?!?! There’s this thing called diplomacy and a thing called intelligence. Maybe the depraved madman in the White House should try those more reasonable, safer, tactics first? You don’t bomb a country without a concept of a plan! WTF!

I'm not happy that he is winging it like this but we should absolutely be policing countries that are purusing nuclear weapons. And we should do so violently is necessary.

Or, hear me out...use diplomacy with our allies to strike deals and maintain peace.

It worked for Obama and iran.

Trump shredded that peace deal and wasted good will amongst Iran and our allies.

The idea that this should be dealt with "violently" just shows what kind of temperment is really needed to deal with these situations, sadly, no one in the administration has that temperment.

We used diplomacy for years and they have been progressing their nuclear program and now they are weeks or days away from enriching enough uranium foir a bomb. Slowing their progress is not enough, we have to roll back their clock or better yet eliminate theur nuclear program.

None of our allies are complaining about the strike. They are all saying we shouldn't escalate beyond that to regime change or anything like that but none of our allies are not mad that we destroyed Fordow.

uh, do you know about the JCPOA? Maybe read up on it. It was diplomacy. It was working, and then Trump ripped it up. And here we are.

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And what was the vietnam war? Congress never declared war there either and yet it went on for years.

POTUS is commander in chief and has executive authority to take immediate action in the interests of national security.

If you want to hang him, then hang him for the actual unconstitutional crap he has done. And there is a lot of it.

But our national security was not under immanent threat from Iran.

Was it under imminent threat from vietnam?

I would suggest that Iran's nuclear program is an imminent threat to everyone's national security.

Isn’t everyone’s nuclear arsenal a threat to global security?

It is. We made a terrible mistake after the end of the Cold War in allowing nuclear proliferation to... proliferate. North Korea and Pakistan are the big ones. There's no walking back now. They have them, and it changes things. Weirdo North Korea and unstable Pakistan are not countries we want with nukes. Regarding Iran, the world has spent twenty years encouraging Iran to keep things at the civilian level. Which would have been fine for everyone. Nothing wrong with nuclear energy.

But Iran went full on with enrichment to near weapons grade and they have a very advanced ballistic missile system. I don't like Trump, but he did the world a favor here. It's one thing if France or the UK or even Israel has nukes - stable democratic countries who would never use them in any kind of offensive capacity. It's an all together different thing with Iran - a repressive police state ruled by an 86 year old religious zealot with dreams of martyrdom. From Tel Aviv to Riyadh, the entire Middle East would face obliteration with an Iran with nukes. It's important to remember that Iran's issues are not just with Israel. But with the entire Sunni world.

Good for Trump for not being a TACO here. The entire planet is happy with this.

Allowing Israel to have nuclear weapon was the biggest mistake and the greatest threat to the continuation of the human race. The US providing arms and aid to Israel just compounds the problem.


It is too bad the US attacked Iran based on the lies propagated by Israel. Iran did have a nuclear weapon, did not have fissionable
material and was not taking any steps to develop a nuclear weapon.

It is important to remember Israel will not stop with Iran. Israelis are planing to attack Turkey next. All the problems in the Middle East can be traced back to Israel.

Israel went to nuclear weapons in 1967, nearly sixty years ago. Even with all the conflict they've experienced, nuclear war has never been on the table for them. Say what you will about Israel, but they are reliably sane when it comes to the use of nuclear weapons. It's a rational country.

But the Iranian leadership is not. Messianic Shi'a extremists have different calculations. And Iran is huge. They can survive a nuclear attack. Israel can't. There are different priorities and risk calculations. Iran has been engaged in proxy wars against Sunni muslims for many years. Do not underestimate how religious extremism rots the brain.

And what is this nonsense about Israel invading Turkey, a NATO country with whom Israel has pretty good relations? Progressives and their TikTok garbage are lowering the IQ of so many people. Try reading a book from time to time.

More lies. Israel threatened Nixon in 1973 to use nukes if the US did not provide Israel with support. In 2023, members of Netanyahu's senior government threatened to drop a nuke in the Gaza strip.

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Trump just went and undercut all of the surrogates who suggested this was a precision strike and a conflict with Iranian nukes and not the people or the government. Now Trump is calling for regime change.

Forever war is coming.

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And what was the vietnam war? Congress never declared war there either and yet it went on for years.

POTUS is commander in chief and has executive authority to take immediate action in the interests of national security.

If you want to hang him, then hang him for the actual unconstitutional crap he has done. And there is a lot of it.

But our national security was not under immanent threat from Iran.

Was it under imminent threat from vietnam?

I would suggest that Iran's nuclear program is an imminent threat to everyone's national security.

Isn’t everyone’s nuclear arsenal a threat to global security?

It is. We made a terrible mistake after the end of the Cold War in allowing nuclear proliferation to... proliferate. North Korea and Pakistan are the big ones. There's no walking back now. They have them, and it changes things. Weirdo North Korea and unstable Pakistan are not countries we want with nukes. Regarding Iran, the world has spent twenty years encouraging Iran to keep things at the civilian level. Which would have been fine for everyone. Nothing wrong with nuclear energy.

But Iran went full on with enrichment to near weapons grade and they have a very advanced ballistic missile system. I don't like Trump, but he did the world a favor here. It's one thing if France or the UK or even Israel has nukes - stable democratic countries who would never use them in any kind of offensive capacity. It's an all together different thing with Iran - a repressive police state ruled by an 86 year old religious zealot with dreams of martyrdom. From Tel Aviv to Riyadh, the entire Middle East would face obliteration with an Iran with nukes. It's important to remember that Iran's issues are not just with Israel. But with the entire Sunni world.

Good for Trump for not being a TACO here. The entire planet is happy with this.

Allowing Israel to have nuclear weapon was the biggest mistake and the greatest threat to the continuation of the human race. The US providing arms and aid to Israel just compounds the problem.


It is too bad the US attacked Iran based on the lies propagated by Israel. Iran did have a nuclear weapon, did not have fissionable
material and was not taking any steps to develop a nuclear weapon.

It is important to remember Israel will not stop with Iran. Israelis are planing to attack Turkey next. All the problems in the Middle East can be traced back to Israel.

Right, Israel is the problem because their neighbors keep trying to annihilate them. How inconvenient. They have yet to threaten to, or to actually use, their nukes. Having such a deterrent seems like just a sensible precaution, given the hostility they face. And, thanks for your insider knowledge about the planned attack on Turkey, which is evident only to you. You'd better alert the Turkish embassy right away, they'll probably give you a medal.

The bolded is an outright lie.
https://apnews.com/article/israel-nuclear-weapons-gaza-iran-china-1e18f34dcec40582166796b0ade65768
https://www.icanw.org/commentary_nuclearweapons_israel_gaza
https://archive.org/details/Sampson_Option

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain how JD Vance is saying they don’t want a war with Iran? How can they say that at this point? Is it just ridiculous arrogance or am I missing something?

He and Trump seem to think they can strike another nation with advanced military capabilities and then declare the matter settled. I personally think they are in for a big wake up call.

Keep checking the news for reports of Iran's Big Retaliation. I'm not waiting up late, though.

Revenge is a dish served cold. We will now have to be overly vigilant waiting and waiting. How long did the Saudi's plan before successfully executing 9/11 attacks on NYC and Arlington, VA

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Anonymous wrote:Trump just went and undercut all of the surrogates who suggested this was a precision strike and a conflict with Iranian nukes and not the people or the government. Now Trump is calling for regime change.

Forever war is coming.

NBC said that the locations were essentially empty of material. Diapers started a war for nothing.

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Do we have any actual evidence that this hurt Iran’s nuclear program whatsoever? Because it’s looking more and more like it was a useless attack that did nothing effective.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we have any actual evidence that this hurt Iran’s nuclear program whatsoever? Because it’s looking more and more like it was a useless attack that did nothing effective.

So what, then more bombing. Iran now knows, they are on the clock. Israel is not going to stop,Iran is target rich as they say.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we have any actual evidence that this hurt Iran’s nuclear program whatsoever? Because it’s looking more and more like it was a useless attack that did nothing effective.

No different than the attack Trump did on syria in 2017.

How much did those bombs cost on Saturday? Hundreds of millions of dollars for literally nothing. Just a bunch of performative BS and braggio.

Obliterated. What a crock.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we have any actual evidence that this hurt Iran’s nuclear program whatsoever? Because it’s looking more and more like it was a useless attack that did nothing effective.

Some expert on cnn earlier noted a recent NYT story that never gained any traction…

Apparently when the international agency flagged the issue with Iran making progress on nuclear munitions, an Iranian official basically responded by saying, “So what? We are proceeding and are safeguarding our resources in a secret hiding place.”

I’m obviously paraphrasing, but the expert on CNN basically said the international report gave Iran a heads up and time to hide their stuff, so who knows if we actually decimated the right targets?

Again: this was cnn, not some rightwing war hawk chat. And my takeaway was that intel obviously confirmed Iran had made sufficient progress to prompt concern, and the international report sounding the alarm probably gave Iran a head start to move things around. Moreover, as the expert flagged: why didn’t the NYT article gain traction? Why didn’t anyone cover this a couple weeks ago?

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And what was the vietnam war? Congress never declared war there either and yet it went on for years.

POTUS is commander in chief and has executive authority to take immediate action in the interests of national security.

If you want to hang him, then hang him for the actual unconstitutional crap he has done. And there is a lot of it.

But our national security was not under immanent threat from Iran.

Was it under imminent threat from vietnam?

I would suggest that Iran's nuclear program is an imminent threat to everyone's national security.

Isn’t everyone’s nuclear arsenal a threat to global security?

It is. We made a terrible mistake after the end of the Cold War in allowing nuclear proliferation to... proliferate. North Korea and Pakistan are the big ones. There's no walking back now. They have them, and it changes things. Weirdo North Korea and unstable Pakistan are not countries we want with nukes. Regarding Iran, the world has spent twenty years encouraging Iran to keep things at the civilian level. Which would have been fine for everyone. Nothing wrong with nuclear energy.

But Iran went full on with enrichment to near weapons grade and they have a very advanced ballistic missile system. I don't like Trump, but he did the world a favor here. It's one thing if France or the UK or even Israel has nukes - stable democratic countries who would never use them in any kind of offensive capacity. It's an all together different thing with Iran - a repressive police state ruled by an 86 year old religious zealot with dreams of martyrdom. From Tel Aviv to Riyadh, the entire Middle East would face obliteration with an Iran with nukes. It's important to remember that Iran's issues are not just with Israel. But with the entire Sunni world.

Good for Trump for not being a TACO here. The entire planet is happy with this.

Allowing Israel to have nuclear weapon was the biggest mistake and the greatest threat to the continuation of the human race. The US providing arms and aid to Israel just compounds the problem.


It is too bad the US attacked Iran based on the lies propagated by Israel. Iran did have a nuclear weapon, did not have fissionable
material and was not taking any steps to develop a nuclear weapon.

It is important to remember Israel will not stop with Iran. Israelis are planing to attack Turkey next. All the problems in the Middle East can be traced back to Israel.

Israel went to nuclear weapons in 1967, nearly sixty years ago. Even with all the conflict they've experienced, nuclear war has never been on the table for them. Say what you will about Israel, but they are reliably sane when it comes to the use of nuclear weapons. It's a rational country.

But the Iranian leadership is not. Messianic Shi'a extremists have different calculations. And Iran is huge. They can survive a nuclear attack. Israel can't. There are different priorities and risk calculations. Iran has been engaged in proxy wars against Sunni muslims for many years. Do not underestimate how religious extremism rots the brain.

And what is this nonsense about Israel invading Turkey, a NATO country with whom Israel has pretty good relations? Progressives and their TikTok garbage are lowering the IQ of so many people. Try reading a book from time to time.

More lies. Israel threatened Nixon in 1973 to use nukes if the US did not provide Israel with support. In 2023, members of Netanyahu's senior government threatened to drop a nuke in the Gaza strip.

What are you smoking? You could package and sell it to others looking to escape reality.

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Anonymous wrote:Do we have any actual evidence that this hurt Iran’s nuclear program whatsoever? Because it’s looking more and more like it was a useless attack that did nothing effective.

So all of Iran's nuclear production facilities are still standing, and none of the IDF or USAF ordnance hit any such targets. Hey, I have a bridge for sale - wanna buy it?

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Anonymous wrote:Do we have any actual evidence that this hurt Iran’s nuclear program whatsoever? Because it’s looking more and more like it was a useless attack that did nothing effective.

Some expert on cnn earlier noted a recent NYT story that never gained any traction…

Apparently when the international agency flagged the issue with Iran making progress on nuclear munitions, an Iranian official basically responded by saying, “So what? We are proceeding and are safeguarding our resources in a secret hiding place.”

I’m obviously paraphrasing, but the expert on CNN basically said the international report gave Iran a heads up and time to hide their stuff, so who knows if we actually decimated the right targets?

Again: this was cnn, not some rightwing war hawk chat. And my takeaway was that intel obviously confirmed Iran had made sufficient progress to prompt concern, and the international report sounding the alarm probably gave Iran a head start to move things around. Moreover, as the expert flagged: why didn’t the NYT article gain traction? Why didn’t anyone cover this a couple weeks ago?

Right. So we have spent hundreds of millions, destabilizing the region even further, for nothing. Great job Trump.