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CYA and SYA merger?
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Anonymous
Not PP, but that would be horrendous. These clubs can't manage effectively at their current sizes. I shudder to think what that would be like. |
Anonymous
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Consolidation should only happen at the MLS (boys) and ECNL (girls) level. At all others levels the more the better from a club perspective. For example, instead of 7 teams, Nova should have no GA teams and only 3 ECNL teams. One based in western Fairfax/ south eastern Loudoun / north western PW. One based in central Fairfax and one based in Arlington/Alex. Parts of BRYC, Metro, and parts of McLean teams would merge. Parts of BRYC, McLean and Arlington would merge and FCV, Loudoun, and VDA reams would merge with cut kids trying out for the other 2 teams. That would result in three strong teams that would be truly “elite” and could compete with best country has to offer and would also attract the best coaches. Meanwhile the rest of the teams get stronger as the cut kids flow down to the normal leagues/teams.
MD should have three as they do now. Pipeline, Bethesda, and United. |
Anonymous
Yeah but your looking at it as a soccer situation. The fact is its a money decision. Loudoun = high income Mclean = high income Fairfax = high income Arlington = high income This is a gold mine for travel soccer. A very unique situatuatin that isn't found anywhere else in the country. There is more disposable income to tap into therefore we are spread thin on talent due to the Almighty dollar. Some place like the Dallas TX area players will travel farther than from Loudoun to Baltimore to train for a single team. Here the the money is there and says make the trams come to us. Money talks.. |
Anonymous
It’s not just players consolidating, but coaches. Bigger pool of girls that have exposure to the better coaches. Not some dcum dad that thinks they were Renaldo in their grade school days. For example, if FCV and BRYC consolidated, they would have the power of the amount of boys and girls playing for the club, the better coaches take the reign and have a good soccer curriculum, stability and better facilities. I am sure there are more synergies. But right now, consolidation is ripe for the taking and would be good. |
Anonymous
That’s just dumb. If the pool can’t be combined then what is the point? Geography makes it almost impossible at the younger ages. Also, TSJ is not buying BRYC a multi-sport non-profit and BRYC is not buying FCV from TSJ either. Just stop with this fantasy. If FCV gets in ECNL fine, if GA dies fine. TSJ is a gym, not a soccer club. The soccer part is just an amenity to them and not their driving business. |
Anonymous
But you don't have to merge the clubs. The clubs can stay separate. You just create "alliances" so that they have one joint top team. I think Baltimore Union and Bltimore Celtic does this. They have an alliance and they have a team that they send their top kids to called Baltimore Celtic Union. The clubs run all the other teams and programs. |
Anonymous
Those were mergers put together to gain entrance into their particular leagues. That is simply not the case with SYA and CYA. This is combining two clubs that are less than 10 miles from each other in order to consolidate a competitive player pool. They have been fighting over for the same kids geographically at the youngest ages for years. This is not a merger intended to gain entrance into a league. |
Anonymous
Looks like you actually want to see the rich of the rich being able to be in the top teams. Only rich families would be to invest their time driving to practices. |
Anonymous
do you really think there are many middle class kids playing ECNL? |
Anonymous
And that my friend is why soccer here is so far behind the rest of the world. We have the athletes but the are excluded due to cost. American football and basketball aren't set up to make cost a hurdle to "join the club". And thats why we are great at those spots and average at soccer. |
Anonymous
AAU basketball isn’t cheap, but there is enough dirty money that the best don’t end up paying anything |
Anonymous
Well, football or basketball are not exactly sports that we compete internationally. Basketball is more international but it is far from the levels of global fandom as soccer. And as far as American Football goes, please, nobody else in the world cares about American football. We are the best because we are the only ones playing the sport. When people try and make this case with American sports they miss the point about the difference between developing for a global sport and developing for a domestic sport. It is a bad idea to try and mimic what works for a domestic sport and project that success as a pathway for developing our players to compete globally. |
Anonymous
Yes but our best athletes dont compete in soccer. American football and basketball are financially more rewarding and accesible for our better athletes. Most of the worlds better soccer players come from similar financial backgrounds as our basketball players. Thats because in most of the world they aren't excluded or priced out of it. |
Anonymous
Two straw man arguments for the price of one here. 1. 14 year old kids don't pick playing a sport based on its economic return. They are kids. They pick sports they enjoy and excel at. Basketball has a minimum size requirement as a point of entry. Full stop. You can't develop height. Height isn't a skill. Simply put, NBA players are the best of the tallest people who are in 99.9999th percentile of height. American football, multiple positions that have a variety of size requirements as a point of entry. Some positions have more of a size range than others. Linemen both offensive and defensive ae, not unlike their NBA cousins in the 99th percentile in pure size. I think we can agree that the NFL players who comprise those positions and make up 50% of a NFL roster would not be good at soccer. That leaves running backs, secondary, QB's, and receivers. Nowif you honestly believe that we are not good internationally at soccer is because about 640 people are playing in the NFL that is hilarious. |
Anonymous
Depends on the age group... will be interesting to see which coaches make the “cut” because there are some in both leagues that a Don’t know how to actually coach. The whole SYA is better mentality is hilarious |