CYA and SYA merger?

[Anonymous]

For some reason I'm not getting too excited here...

[Anonymous]

chantilly leaving NPL for CCL maybe but that's it?

[Anonymous]

Maybe it’s about a golf tournament
https://www.syasports.org/sya-cya-froghair-golf-tournament-99-deal/

[Anonymous]

TM is team manager. Would you like to speak to the manager?

[Anonymous]

It’ll be interesting to see how they form the CCL1 teams- there will be a lot of angry incumbents getting sent down

[Anonymous]

CYA wants to have its teams play CCL2? doesn't have much of a wow factor

[Anonymous]

There’s no way the clubs can merge travel soccer only. I am familiar with how SYA runs and their soccer program financials are very intertwined (rec and travel). They also centrally allocate field space amongst all their sports every season. It would be extremely difficult to administer that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s no way the clubs can merge travel soccer only. I am familiar with how SYA runs and their soccer program financials are very intertwined (rec and travel). They also centrally allocate field space amongst all their sports every season. It would be extremely difficult to administer that.

This merger makes mores sense than TSJ buying FCV. Welcome to silly season 2021.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s no way the clubs can merge travel soccer only. I am familiar with how SYA runs and their soccer program financials are very intertwined (rec and travel). They also centrally allocate field space amongst all their sports every season. It would be extremely difficult to administer that.

Get ready to be surprised!

[Anonymous]

I wish youth soccer was more like swim -- NVSL (Northern Virginia Swim League) has 17 Divisions with 6 teams each. Every Feb/March team reps get together and explain why their team should stay, go up or down from the division the summer before (obviously the previous season's 5 meet results come in to play). The league really tries to make sure the divisions are actually competitive so that there aren't horrific blowouts. Yes, a team may lose all 5 meets in a summer but it would at least it's usually close... and if a team knows they are losing lots of strong seniors or whatever from one season to the next, they can try to factor that in.

My kid is in CYA Travel -- last year (2019-2020- although there really wasn't a spring) we were so=so competitive... but this past fall, we had about 4 kids choosing to sit out for COVID safety and another leave for another league (ironically, I think it was SYA). Our games were often blowouts. Usually blowouts. Not.even.close.

All this talk about how awful CCL or whatever leagues are not competitive... I'd rather my kid be in a lower swim division and have a shot at winning than to get a beat down every.single.week...

I'd rather my kid have a good competitive soccer experience. I want professional coaches and not some Dad who is out there for his own ego. I want him to look back on his soccer days with some joy. I want him to be physically fit, to learn the rules of the game and good sportsmanship. I want him to be a lifelong fan of playing and watching soccer.

[Anonymous]

You just described NCSL or EDP. The larger/better clubs prefer to avoid leagues where relegation is a possibility

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wish youth soccer was more like swim -- NVSL (Northern Virginia Swim League) has 17 Divisions with 6 teams each. Every Feb/March team reps get together and explain why their team should stay, go up or down from the division the summer before (obviously the previous season's 5 meet results come in to play). The league really tries to make sure the divisions are actually competitive so that there aren't horrific blowouts. Yes, a team may lose all 5 meets in a summer but it would at least it's usually close... and if a team knows they are losing lots of strong seniors or whatever from one season to the next, they can try to factor that in.

My kid is in CYA Travel -- last year (2019-2020- although there really wasn't a spring) we were so=so competitive... but this past fall, we had about 4 kids choosing to sit out for COVID safety and another leave for another league (ironically, I think it was SYA). Our games were often blowouts. Usually blowouts. Not.even.close.

All this talk about how awful CCL or whatever leagues are not competitive... I'd rather my kid be in a lower swim division and have a shot at winning than to get a beat down every.single.week...

I'd rather my kid have a good competitive soccer experience. I want professional coaches and not some Dad who is out there for his own ego. I want him to look back on his soccer days with some joy. I want him to be physically fit, to learn the rules of the game and good sportsmanship. I want him to be a lifelong fan of playing and watching soccer.

With that mentality, your kid belongs in a competitive rec league. Frankly, parents like you are a problem, because you are willing to drop $2K-$3K on travel, but don’t want it to be too hard or too challenging for little Johnny. If you are at CYA, you are paying for a ‘professional’ coach who is only a professional coach because people like you exist and are plentiful in this area, not because they actually have some coaching acumen or ability.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish youth soccer was more like swim -- NVSL (Northern Virginia Swim League) has 17 Divisions with 6 teams each. Every Feb/March team reps get together and explain why their team should stay, go up or down from the division the summer before (obviously the previous season's 5 meet results come in to play). The league really tries to make sure the divisions are actually competitive so that there aren't horrific blowouts. Yes, a team may lose all 5 meets in a summer but it would at least it's usually close... and if a team knows they are losing lots of strong seniors or whatever from one season to the next, they can try to factor that in.

My kid is in CYA Travel -- last year (2019-2020- although there really wasn't a spring) we were so=so competitive... but this past fall, we had about 4 kids choosing to sit out for COVID safety and another leave for another league (ironically, I think it was SYA). Our games were often blowouts. Usually blowouts. Not.even.close.

All this talk about how awful CCL or whatever leagues are not competitive... I'd rather my kid be in a lower swim division and have a shot at winning than to get a beat down every.single.week...

I'd rather my kid have a good competitive soccer experience. I want professional coaches and not some Dad who is out there for his own ego. I want him to look back on his soccer days with some joy. I want him to be physically fit, to learn the rules of the game and good sportsmanship. I want him to be a lifelong fan of playing and watching soccer.

With that mentality, your kid belongs in a competitive rec league. Frankly, parents like you are a problem, because you are willing to drop $2K-$3K on travel, but don’t want it to be too hard or too challenging for little Johnny. If you are at CYA, you are paying for a ‘professional’ coach who is only a professional coach because people like you exist and are plentiful in this area, not because they actually have some coaching acumen or ability.

Especially true at CYA. Most coaches have no or little licenses. Honestly, you're just paying that "dad with an ego". Top to bottom, one of the least "professional " staffs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish youth soccer was more like swim -- NVSL (Northern Virginia Swim League) has 17 Divisions with 6 teams each. Every Feb/March team reps get together and explain why their team should stay, go up or down from the division the summer before (obviously the previous season's 5 meet results come in to play). The league really tries to make sure the divisions are actually competitive so that there aren't horrific blowouts. Yes, a team may lose all 5 meets in a summer but it would at least it's usually close... and if a team knows they are losing lots of strong seniors or whatever from one season to the next, they can try to factor that in.

My kid is in CYA Travel -- last year (2019-2020- although there really wasn't a spring) we were so=so competitive... but this past fall, we had about 4 kids choosing to sit out for COVID safety and another leave for another league (ironically, I think it was SYA). Our games were often blowouts. Usually blowouts. Not.even.close.

All this talk about how awful CCL or whatever leagues are not competitive... I'd rather my kid be in a lower swim division and have a shot at winning than to get a beat down every.single.week...

I'd rather my kid have a good competitive soccer experience. I want professional coaches and not some Dad who is out there for his own ego. I want him to look back on his soccer days with some joy. I want him to be physically fit, to learn the rules of the game and good sportsmanship. I want him to be a lifelong fan of playing and watching soccer.

With that mentality, your kid belongs in a competitive rec league. Frankly, parents like you are a problem, because you are willing to drop $2K-$3K on travel, but don’t want it to be too hard or too challenging for little Johnny. If you are at CYA, you are paying for a ‘professional’ coach who is only a professional coach because people like you exist and are plentiful in this area, not because they actually have some coaching acumen or ability.

If a team can't win a game, it was placed in the wrong league. Some clubs refuse to accept reality, but being in a league where they have no chance of winning games does nothing for the kids. They are better off playing similar teams and winning a few and losing a few

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wish youth soccer was more like swim -- NVSL (Northern Virginia Swim League) has 17 Divisions with 6 teams each. Every Feb/March team reps get together and explain why their team should stay, go up or down from the division the summer before (obviously the previous season's 5 meet results come in to play). The league really tries to make sure the divisions are actually competitive so that there aren't horrific blowouts. Yes, a team may lose all 5 meets in a summer but it would at least it's usually close... and if a team knows they are losing lots of strong seniors or whatever from one season to the next, they can try to factor that in.

My kid is in CYA Travel -- last year (2019-2020- although there really wasn't a spring) we were so=so competitive... but this past fall, we had about 4 kids choosing to sit out for COVID safety and another leave for another league (ironically, I think it was SYA). Our games were often blowouts. Usually blowouts. Not.even.close.

All this talk about how awful CCL or whatever leagues are not competitive... I'd rather my kid be in a lower swim division and have a shot at winning than to get a beat down every.single.week...

I'd rather my kid have a good competitive soccer experience. I want professional coaches and not some Dad who is out there for his own ego. I want him to look back on his soccer days with some joy. I want him to be physically fit, to learn the rules of the game and good sportsmanship. I want him to be a lifelong fan of playing and watching soccer.

With that mentality, your kid belongs in a competitive rec league. Frankly, parents like you are a problem, because you are willing to drop $2K-$3K on travel, but don’t want it to be too hard or too challenging for little Johnny. If you are at CYA, you are paying for a ‘professional’ coach who is only a professional coach because people like you exist and are plentiful in this area, not because they actually have some coaching acumen or ability.

HAHAHA - this has NOTHING to do with not wanting it to be hard on little Johnny. I literally said I want him to play competitively. What I don't want is to put my kid in a situation where he gets a beat down every.single.week -- sorry, but when I earned my MEd, there was nothing that showed learning and growth came from beating a kid down day after day or week after week. I sincerely hope that your Non-CYA coaches with the "acumen" and "ability" do not believe there is success in a constant beat down either?!

This kid is a highly competitive kid - heck, when he was in Kindergarten and frustrated about a homework assignment (don't get me started on why it's ridiculous to have homework in Kindergarten) his father and I said -- hey, it's ok... no one is perfect. In response, this kid looked at us and said, "oh yeah? Well I'm going to be the FIRST!" Sigh. So yeah, I worry about my kid's perfectionist tendencies - he pushes himself WAY harder than we would in many areas. We ask that he challenges himself, that he works to his potential, and that he actually finds some joy in what he is doing - win or lose. His first year in Travel they won every game that spring and a tournament. It was GREAT. But you know, there are lessons in losing too and we worried all that winning would be a problem. Luckily the next season was a mix. But I'm telling you , flash forward to this fall -- and always losing is miserable.