NYT article on LCPS high school re: racism

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, what the girl did was definitely wrong and racist. However after the video was made (before the classmate publicized it), she seemed to have realized that. She apologized to a friend who was a POC, she posted about supporting BLM. So her viewpoints around that word seemed to have shifted. As it should, people’s ideals do change with education, experience, and awareness.

I’m disturbed that the classmate hung onto that video for a long time until he felt it was time to punish her. In my mind, that was also wrong and his goal was clearly to inflict damage and hurt to this girl, not to educate or raise public awareness. I’m surprised they didn’t interview his parents, I’m wondering what their take is? He didn’t seem like his aim was to make things better for students at heritage high. Just really to humiliate and punish this one girl.

My world views since I was 15 have certainly grown and changed. I would never say the N word but I didn’t grow up in a place like Loudon. I’m not feeling so good that this girl’s future was completely..... not sure what the word is, not destroyed....

Wouldn’t it have been more impactful for something good to come out of this? Like racial awareness training or speaking out? Doesn’t seem like anyone in the story was interested in anything good or learned actually happening from the video.

Something good did come out of it. The young woman’s tale will serve as a warning to others that there is absolutely zero tolerance for racism. It’s well past time for excuses or always giving the privileged an out.

No. It will just drive it underground. And if you don't get that your kid has probably used the word, you are a fool.

Just saying the word doesn't make you a racist. That's ridiculous. It is just a word.

I am 62 and have used the word in describing situations... they called him an n- word. Before they came up with n word, people used the actual wird, you know?

No white person could ever say the word again, and there would still be racism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, what the girl did was definitely wrong and racist. However after the video was made (before the classmate publicized it), she seemed to have realized that. She apologized to a friend who was a POC, she posted about supporting BLM. So her viewpoints around that word seemed to have shifted. As it should, people’s ideals do change with education, experience, and awareness.

I’m disturbed that the classmate hung onto that video for a long time until he felt it was time to punish her. In my mind, that was also wrong and his goal was clearly to inflict damage and hurt to this girl, not to educate or raise public awareness. I’m surprised they didn’t interview his parents, I’m wondering what their take is? He didn’t seem like his aim was to make things better for students at heritage high. Just really to humiliate and punish this one girl.

My world views since I was 15 have certainly grown and changed. I would never say the N word but I didn’t grow up in a place like Loudon. I’m not feeling so good that this girl’s future was completely..... not sure what the word is, not destroyed....

Wouldn’t it have been more impactful for something good to come out of this? Like racial awareness training or speaking out? Doesn’t seem like anyone in the story was interested in anything good or learned actually happening from the video.

Something good did come out of it. The young woman’s tale will serve as a warning to others that there is absolutely zero tolerance for racism. It’s well past time for excuses or always giving the privileged an out.

No. It will just drive it underground. And if you don't get that your kid has probably used the word, you are a fool.

Just saying the word doesn't make you a racist. That's ridiculous. It is just a word.

I am 62 and have used the word in describing situations... they called him an n- word. Before they came up with n word, people used the actual wird, you know?

No white person could ever say the word again, and there would still be racism.

Dude. No. A white person using it is NEVER ok.

Just because racism can still exist without people using the word, doesn’t mean it’s ok to use the word.

Oy. Go back to the hole you crawled out of!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Kids use the word to try to be "cool" as well, not racist. And that can be traced to rap.
It was clear from her posts about George Floyd that she in fact was nit racist.

She made a poor decision -- at a very young age. Boy was a jerk to do what he did. He has a target on himself now.

A deliberate decision to ruin someone’s life at 17 or 18 carries a bit more weight than a racial slur directed at no one in particular at 15. I hope this kid realizes this will come right back at him. He got his opportunity to star in his very own after-school special; now he can wake up and realize most people think he’s a stupid attention seeker.

[Anonymous]

So this girl made a TikTok at 15 saying “I can drive n—-!” And people really think she should be banned from high school, college, sports, and a job? You never said anything as a teen that you wouldn’t want to come back up years later?

She was imitating rap videos, not even saying anything hateful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, what the girl did was definitely wrong and racist. However after the video was made (before the classmate publicized it), she seemed to have realized that. She apologized to a friend who was a POC, she posted about supporting BLM. So her viewpoints around that word seemed to have shifted. As it should, people’s ideals do change with education, experience, and awareness.

I’m disturbed that the classmate hung onto that video for a long time until he felt it was time to punish her. In my mind, that was also wrong and his goal was clearly to inflict damage and hurt to this girl, not to educate or raise public awareness. I’m surprised they didn’t interview his parents, I’m wondering what their take is? He didn’t seem like his aim was to make things better for students at heritage high. Just really to humiliate and punish this one girl.

My world views since I was 15 have certainly grown and changed. I would never say the N word but I didn’t grow up in a place like Loudon. I’m not feeling so good that this girl’s future was completely..... not sure what the word is, not destroyed....

Wouldn’t it have been more impactful for something good to come out of this? Like racial awareness training or speaking out? Doesn’t seem like anyone in the story was interested in anything good or learned actually happening from the video.

Something good did come out of it. The young woman’s tale will serve as a warning to others that there is absolutely zero tolerance for racism. It’s well past time for excuses or always giving the privileged an out.

No. It will just drive it underground. And if you don't get that your kid has probably used the word, you are a fool.

Just saying the word doesn't make you a racist. That's ridiculous. It is just a word.

I am 62 and have used the word in describing situations... they called him an n- word. Before they came up with n word, people used the actual wird, you know?

No white person could ever say the word again, and there would still be racism.

Dude. No. A white person using it is NEVER ok.

Just because racism can still exist without people using the word, doesn’t mean it’s ok to use the word.

Oy. Go back to the hole you crawled out of!

You aren't some great civil rights warrior because you never say the word.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So this girl made a TikTok at 15 saying “I can drive n—-!” And people really think she should be banned from high school, college, sports, and a job? You never said anything as a teen that you wouldn’t want to come back up years later?

She was imitating rap videos, not even saying anything hateful.

Exactly this.

[Anonymous]

If your rich white kid is too stupid to know at 15 they shouldn’t say the N word you did a horrible job raising them. Sadly she has to pay for her parents crappy parenting but she did learn a lesson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, what the girl did was definitely wrong and racist. However after the video was made (before the classmate publicized it), she seemed to have realized that. She apologized to a friend who was a POC, she posted about supporting BLM. So her viewpoints around that word seemed to have shifted. As it should, people’s ideals do change with education, experience, and awareness.

I’m disturbed that the classmate hung onto that video for a long time until he felt it was time to punish her. In my mind, that was also wrong and his goal was clearly to inflict damage and hurt to this girl, not to educate or raise public awareness. I’m surprised they didn’t interview his parents, I’m wondering what their take is? He didn’t seem like his aim was to make things better for students at heritage high. Just really to humiliate and punish this one girl.

My world views since I was 15 have certainly grown and changed. I would never say the N word but I didn’t grow up in a place like Loudon. I’m not feeling so good that this girl’s future was completely..... not sure what the word is, not destroyed....

Wouldn’t it have been more impactful for something good to come out of this? Like racial awareness training or speaking out? Doesn’t seem like anyone in the story was interested in anything good or learned actually happening from the video.

Something good did come out of it. The young woman’s tale will serve as a warning to others that there is absolutely zero tolerance for racism. It’s well past time for excuses or always giving the privileged an out.

No. It will just drive it underground. And if you don't get that your kid has probably used the word, you are a fool.

Just saying the word doesn't make you a racist. That's ridiculous. It is just a word.

I am 62 and have used the word in describing situations... they called him an n- word. Before they came up with n word, people used the actual wird, you know?

No white person could ever say the word again, and there would still be racism.

Dude. No. A white person using it is NEVER ok.

Just because racism can still exist without people using the word, doesn’t mean it’s ok to use the word.

Oy. Go back to the hole you crawled out of!

You aren't some great civil rights warrior because you never say the word.

Well at least we know what side a white person is on when they do use the word.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So this girl made a TikTok at 15 saying “I can drive n—-!” And people really think she should be banned from high school, college, sports, and a job? You never said anything as a teen that you wouldn’t want to come back up years later?

She was imitating rap videos, not even saying anything hateful.

Exactly this.

Agreed, and hope that black kid everyone now knows is a snitch with no character ends up in low level jobs the rest of his life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, what the girl did was definitely wrong and racist. However after the video was made (before the classmate publicized it), she seemed to have realized that. She apologized to a friend who was a POC, she posted about supporting BLM. So her viewpoints around that word seemed to have shifted. As it should, people’s ideals do change with education, experience, and awareness.

I’m disturbed that the classmate hung onto that video for a long time until he felt it was time to punish her. In my mind, that was also wrong and his goal was clearly to inflict damage and hurt to this girl, not to educate or raise public awareness. I’m surprised they didn’t interview his parents, I’m wondering what their take is? He didn’t seem like his aim was to make things better for students at heritage high. Just really to humiliate and punish this one girl.

My world views since I was 15 have certainly grown and changed. I would never say the N word but I didn’t grow up in a place like Loudon. I’m not feeling so good that this girl’s future was completely..... not sure what the word is, not destroyed....

Wouldn’t it have been more impactful for something good to come out of this? Like racial awareness training or speaking out? Doesn’t seem like anyone in the story was interested in anything good or learned actually happening from the video.

Something good did come out of it. The young woman’s tale will serve as a warning to others that there is absolutely zero tolerance for racism. It’s well past time for excuses or always giving the privileged an out.

No. It will just drive it underground. And if you don't get that your kid has probably used the word, you are a fool.

Just saying the word doesn't make you a racist. That's ridiculous. It is just a word.

I am 62 and have used the word in describing situations... they called him an n- word. Before they came up with n word, people used the actual wird, you know?

No white person could ever say the word again, and there would still be racism.

Dude. No. A white person using it is NEVER ok.

Just because racism can still exist without people using the word, doesn’t mean it’s ok to use the word.

Oy. Go back to the hole you crawled out of!

You aren't some great civil rights warrior because you never say the word.

But you definitely are a particular kind of scum because you do.

Signed, a white person

[Anonymous]

Both kids were wrong, and both will suffer the consequences of their actions. The end.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m not reading all of this garbage but suffice it say many upper middle class white people in all of these districts have racist beliefs that couch themselves more respectably than saying the N word but are racist nonetheless.

well said.

[Anonymous]

Hey white people

Right now as you read this thread

Go explicitly tell your kids that under no circumstances should they EVER denigrate human beings by using the N word

Tell them no matter what, it is racist

And if they are ignorant enough to ever post it publicly it will resurface one day and they will reap the consequences

It’s not that hard. But if you’ve never told them, here’s your reminder. Because this could easily be a LOT of white kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Hey white people

Right now as you read this thread

Go explicitly tell your kids that under no circumstances should they EVER denigrate human beings by using the N word

Tell them no matter what, it is racist

And if they are ignorant enough to ever post it publicly it will resurface one day and they will reap the consequences

It’s not that hard. But if you’ve never told them, here’s your reminder. Because this could easily be a LOT of white kids.

Yes to this. And while we are at it...

Hey ALL people. Go tell your teenagers that holding onto information for a year, until you can really damage someone’s life, is snake-like. And, if you’re going to choose this option, make sure to remain anonymous, because doing this publicly will cause more harm to YOU than the person you are trying to hurt.

Good luck, Jimmy. You’re going to need it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Hey white people

Right now as you read this thread

Go explicitly tell your kids that under no circumstances should they EVER denigrate human beings by using the N word

Tell them no matter what, it is racist

And if they are ignorant enough to ever post it publicly it will resurface one day and they will reap the consequences

It’s not that hard. But if you’ve never told them, here’s your reminder. Because this could easily be a LOT of white kids.

Yes to this. And while we are at it...

Hey ALL people. Go tell your teenagers that holding onto information for a year, until you can really damage someone’s life, is snake-like. And, if you’re going to choose this option, make sure to remain anonymous, because doing this publicly will cause more harm to YOU than the person you are trying to hurt.

Good luck, Jimmy. You’re going to need it.

That kid grew up in a whitewashed very white community and has a white dad dealing with his own internalized racism. Whether you agree with what he did or not, a) she DID post it publicly and b) he clearly has a lot of hurt he is working through himself.