NYT article on LCPS high school re: racism

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Anonymous wrote:The boy probably thought turning the screws on this girl for something she’d done three years ago would make him some type of social media hero who’d get into Yale for his valor, but instead here he is despised by a lot of his former classmates and at Vanguard University, which no one has ever heard of. Hope he still thinks he made the right decision.

Wow! Blame the minority for calling out a racist.

I’m a POC. There’s a difference between calling someone out and holding onto stuff to find the perfect opportunity to out someone. He’s not that courageous. If it was about doing the right thing, he would have dealt with it right away. It was a crappy move.

r/AsABlackMan. lol gtfoh

Latina woman. The girl was wrong and should suffer the consequences. But he was dtck in how he decided to handle it.

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I’m not reading all of this garbage but suffice it say many upper middle class white people in all of these districts have racist beliefs that couch themselves more respectably than saying the N word but are racist nonetheless.

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Anonymous wrote:So wait, the 18 year old girl (15 when she said it) needed to be taught a public lesson, but his much older white father was dealt with privately when he said it?

This kid is a clown. He could have handled this so much better.

He may not regret it now, but he sure will when he goes to find a job. When a potential employer does a quick Google search, this will come up. No one wants a snake on their team. There was no reason for this to be handled like this.

This is, unfortunately, the most true of all the statements made on this thread.

So now people should be quiet because a privileged white person might have to accept the consequences of her actions... this and similar attitudes are why 150+ years after the end of slavery we still have to deal with racism and injustice. No one should be expected to tolerate the intolerable.

I have yet to see one person defend her using the word.

She is suffering the consequences of her actions, and he will suffer the consequences of his. That’s how it works.

Universities don’t want racist students. Employers don’t want snake-like employees that hold onto dirt until the perfect opportunity to take someone down.

+1000 All employers Google their job candidates. No one is going to want to work with someone like this.

My org would hire him. And not in spite of this - because of this. I’m not at all worried about his future based on this story.

Care to name your org? Your org of 2 people lol.

Most employers WILL care.

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Lcps is full of indiana

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The racism, the competitive moms, the cheerleading, the McMansions....

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The racism, the competitive moms, the cheerleading, the McMansions....

Most Loudoun County residents have never been to Indiana. It’s kind of a reality check that racist people are everywhere. We keep blaming certain parts of the country. Nope. Even the liberal APS parents are more of the NIMBY type...

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Anonymous wrote:Lcps is full of indiana

The racism, the competitive moms, the cheerleading, the McMansions....

This sounds like McLean and Potomac lol

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Anonymous wrote:What do you all think? Is this (racism in LCPS) as rampant as the article portrays? Is FCPS any better? Were the consequences fair to the girl?

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/26/us/mimi-groves-jimmy-galligan-racial-slurs.html

LCPS is FCPS of 25 years ago. Move further out, live with more white people. So, you live that insulated, kids (unchecked) act like this. Lack of diversity doesn't inoculate a community from racism, just let people live without real consequence. Until that kid blew up her spot. Small prices compared to the number of POC that have been derailed by their public school experiences.

Do you honestly think kids don’t do this kind of stuff in FCPS? How quickly you forget about the disastrous rollout of online learning in April where kids yelled/wrote/sung the n-word in classes. It happened to my son in one of his classes and we can only assume he was targeted given he was the only Black student in the class.

It happens in FCPS but it definitely is worse in Loudoun because LCPS parents especially as you get farther out in Loudoun tend to be more likely to be okay with it. I grew up in Loudoun as the child of a LCPS administrator.

Ok? I grew up in LCPS am Black and now have two children in FCPS. FCPS is no better when it comes to this type of stuff. Before the pandemic, my son couldn’t do a week without hearing the n-word spoken by his fellow students.

I'm 40 and grew up in LCPS. When I was growing up, my town still had a "black part of town." Many parents of kids i grew up with used words like "colored" at home to describe black people and they forbid their kids from ever going to the 'black part of town."

I find this hard to believe. I’m 48 and grew up in Loudon and never heard anyone use the word colored.

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No doubt the young woman will be trotted out by alt right media as an example of the reverse racism and oppression white people face.

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Look, what the girl did was definitely wrong and racist. However after the video was made (before the classmate publicized it), she seemed to have realized that. She apologized to a friend who was a POC, she posted about supporting BLM. So her viewpoints around that word seemed to have shifted. As it should, people’s ideals do change with education, experience, and awareness.

I’m disturbed that the classmate hung onto that video for a long time until he felt it was time to punish her. In my mind, that was also wrong and his goal was clearly to inflict damage and hurt to this girl, not to educate or raise public awareness. I’m surprised they didn’t interview his parents, I’m wondering what their take is? He didn’t seem like his aim was to make things better for students at heritage high. Just really to humiliate and punish this one girl.

My world views since I was 15 have certainly grown and changed. I would never say the N word but I didn’t grow up in a place like Loudon. I’m not feeling so good that this girl’s future was completely..... not sure what the word is, not destroyed....

Wouldn’t it have been more impactful for something good to come out of this? Like racial awareness training or speaking out? Doesn’t seem like anyone in the story was interested in anything good or learned actually happening from the video.

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Anonymous wrote:No doubt the young woman will be trotted out by alt right media as an example of the reverse racism and oppression white people face.

It isn’t reverse racism at all. It’s an example of how cancel culture has gotten out of control. Sadly, this will negatively impact his life more than it will hers.

I’m with the others - why was her apology insufficient? She needed to be publicly shamed with actual consequences (college admission rescinded), but not his dad? Maybe we should all write letters to his dad’s employer, demanding that they fire him?

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Kids use the word to try to be "cool" as well, not racist. And that can be traced to rap.
It was clear from her posts about George Floyd that she in fact was nit racist.

She made a poor decision -- at a very young age. Boy was a jerk to do what he did. He has a target on himself now.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, what the girl did was definitely wrong and racist. However after the video was made (before the classmate publicized it), she seemed to have realized that. She apologized to a friend who was a POC, she posted about supporting BLM. So her viewpoints around that word seemed to have shifted. As it should, people’s ideals do change with education, experience, and awareness.

I’m disturbed that the classmate hung onto that video for a long time until he felt it was time to punish her. In my mind, that was also wrong and his goal was clearly to inflict damage and hurt to this girl, not to educate or raise public awareness. I’m surprised they didn’t interview his parents, I’m wondering what their take is? He didn’t seem like his aim was to make things better for students at heritage high. Just really to humiliate and punish this one girl.

My world views since I was 15 have certainly grown and changed. I would never say the N word but I didn’t grow up in a place like Loudon. I’m not feeling so good that this girl’s future was completely..... not sure what the word is, not destroyed....

Wouldn’t it have been more impactful for something good to come out of this? Like racial awareness training or speaking out? Doesn’t seem like anyone in the story was interested in anything good or learned actually happening from the video.

Something good did come out of it. The young woman’s tale will serve as a warning to others that there is absolutely zero tolerance for racism. It’s well past time for excuses or always giving the privileged an out.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, what the girl did was definitely wrong and racist. However after the video was made (before the classmate publicized it), she seemed to have realized that. She apologized to a friend who was a POC, she posted about supporting BLM. So her viewpoints around that word seemed to have shifted. As it should, people’s ideals do change with education, experience, and awareness.

I’m disturbed that the classmate hung onto that video for a long time until he felt it was time to punish her. In my mind, that was also wrong and his goal was clearly to inflict damage and hurt to this girl, not to educate or raise public awareness. I’m surprised they didn’t interview his parents, I’m wondering what their take is? He didn’t seem like his aim was to make things better for students at heritage high. Just really to humiliate and punish this one girl.

My world views since I was 15 have certainly grown and changed. I would never say the N word but I didn’t grow up in a place like Loudon. I’m not feeling so good that this girl’s future was completely..... not sure what the word is, not destroyed....

Wouldn’t it have been more impactful for something good to come out of this? Like racial awareness training or speaking out? Doesn’t seem like anyone in the story was interested in anything good or learned actually happening from the video.

Something good did come out of it. The young woman’s tale will serve as a warning to others that there is absolutely zero tolerance for racism. It’s well past time for excuses or always giving the privileged an out.

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Anonymous wrote:Look, what the girl did was definitely wrong and racist. However after the video was made (before the classmate publicized it), she seemed to have realized that. She apologized to a friend who was a POC, she posted about supporting BLM. So her viewpoints around that word seemed to have shifted. As it should, people’s ideals do change with education, experience, and awareness.

I’m disturbed that the classmate hung onto that video for a long time until he felt it was time to punish her. In my mind, that was also wrong and his goal was clearly to inflict damage and hurt to this girl, not to educate or raise public awareness. I’m surprised they didn’t interview his parents, I’m wondering what their take is? He didn’t seem like his aim was to make things better for students at heritage high. Just really to humiliate and punish this one girl.

My world views since I was 15 have certainly grown and changed. I would never say the N word but I didn’t grow up in a place like Loudon. I’m not feeling so good that this girl’s future was completely..... not sure what the word is, not destroyed....

Wouldn’t it have been more impactful for something good to come out of this? Like racial awareness training or speaking out? Doesn’t seem like anyone in the story was interested in anything good or learned actually happening from the video.

Something good did come out of it. The young woman’s tale will serve as a warning to others that there is absolutely zero tolerance for racism. It’s well past time for excuses or always giving the privileged an out.

I agree - something good did come out of it. She and others won’t throw that word around so flippantly (even if just singing along with a song). There really is no excuse for using it. I grew up in the Midwest decades ago and knew that it was a bad word, so I can’t be convinced that kids in Loudoun don’t know better.

Unfortunately, both of them made decisions that will negatively impact their lives. I agree with the poster above - Mimi lost her dream of cheering at Tennessee. Sadly though, Jimmy doesn’t realize that his choice to hold onto the video clip until the moment where he could inflict maximum harm... Well, that doesn’t speak much to his character either. This NYT article will come up any time someone searches for his name. And yes, it will impact his employment. While I clearly disagree with her actions, I wouldn’t want a person like him on my team.