Woohoo in-person voters! Virginia leading the pack

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Anonymous wrote:Where are the rubber bullets and tear gas to disperse these lawless thugs?

I hope they’re getting arrested.

You mean, Trump supporters being held to the same standards as everybody else?
That would be a first.

I worked that station yesterday. Once they were moved, they had a right to make a ruckus if they wanted. They were enthusiatic. I heard them outside, but, I wasn't aware they were protesting early voting. I thought they were just shouting "Trump!" and "4more years! I didn't see them blocking the doors. They may have just been in the way of the line or too close to the building. (All political speech has to stay so many feet back from the door).

If they were actually protesting early voting, it is ironic that they came inside and VOTED EARLY!

I saw them and served them.

No, they don’t. That is intimidation.

Yes. How do I know they won't rough us up, like Trump made them do at rallies?

Until someone makes a threstening gesture, you can't presume evil intention. But, there were voters who felt harrassed, and that's why the waiting voters were brought inside to wrap around the hallways. It was all handled well, and that's how democracy should work!

You can, actually. What other reason would they have to protest a voting place? How many excuses do you need to manufacture for what is fundamentally anti-democratic behavior? Why do you defend what is functionally fascism? They’re entitled to go vote there (presuming they’re registered and eligible to vote in that location), they are not entitled to protest voting or block access, and in the time of covid they certainly shouldn’t be out there spewing their unmasked breath.

It’s disgusting and the worst kind of optics. The GOP is totally opposed to their opponents voting.

Political speech is the MOST protected speech!

They have to stay X feet back, but once they fo that, they can chant and clap and cheer if they want. Nobody has to like it, but they can do it...and although I do not support their position and I question their intelligence/strategy/logic, the most obvious place to have political speech is where people are going to make political decisions!

I'm sure back in the 1700s and 1800s, men with wigs werr giving speeches outside of voting places too! That is democracy, and we should protect it even if we support the other party.

If the weren't blocking anybody or threatening harm -- which I don't think they were -- then they can be obnoxious if they want. Probably won't win any new converts that way, but they can have their say.

Nope. They can't yell.

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title24.2/chapter6/section24.2-607/
B. No person shall conduct himself in a noisy or riotous manner at or about the polls so as to disturb the election or insult or abuse an officer of election.

If they have to provide escorts for voters to feel safe, then it's intimidation.

They weren't disturbing the election or insulting or abusing an officer of the election! No one in the actusl election rooms could have heard any of the noise because the rooms are quite far from the front of the building snd the rooms have no windows.

C'mon, dems! Are you really this fragile? Once they were moved to the proper distance, they cheered and chanted. I don't like motorcycles, but that doesn't make them "threatening." No one needed "an escort." The administration just moved the waiting people inside to keep everyone calm.

I don't remember how many came in to vote. I thought it was more than 3, but I wasn't counting. The ones I saw inside were not threatening or rude. They were shorter Asian people. One had two younger kids. Everyone who came inside behaved properly.

I think some people are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

If you really are a democrat, you should believe in the first amendment. Don't let hatred of any politician rob you of your core values....civil liberties for all.

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The trolls on this thread are exceptional. A link to the NYT has been repeatedly posted, stating that these people were neither blocking anyone nor were they “intimidating.” They also weren’t protesting the early voting, as several trolls have insisted. They were simply rallying for Trump - something they are perfectly entitled to do under the 1st Amendment.

It’s funny that a small group of people expressing their support for their candidate has caused these liberals to hysterically clutch their pearls. Funnier still that this group wasn’t setting fires or destroying property, unlike leftists in Portland. I don’t think liberals actually know what it looks like to have a non-violent political rally.

They're thugs and so are you.

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The trolls on this thread are exceptional. A link to the NYT has been repeatedly posted, stating that these people were neither blocking anyone nor were they “intimidating.” They also weren’t protesting the early voting, as several trolls have insisted. They were simply rallying for Trump - something they are perfectly entitled to do under the 1st Amendment.

It’s funny that a small group of people expressing their support for their candidate has caused these liberals to hysterically clutch their pearls. Funnier still that this group wasn’t setting fires or destroying property, unlike leftists in Portland. I don’t think liberals actually know what it looks like to have a non-violent political rally.

They're thugs and so are you.

Yup. The typical groupthink response. Name-calling. You proved the PP's point perfectly.

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So, I voted early. I stood in line quietly. I wore a mask. And I voted for Trump.

Even though VA is likely going to Biden, why do people on this thread think everyone who turned out early was a Democrat, or that the Trump votes were only cast by people without masks?

I know there's another thread on this topic, but there are more silent Trump voters in this country than some people think, including pollsters.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are the rubber bullets and tear gas to disperse these lawless thugs?

I hope they’re getting arrested.

You mean, Trump supporters being held to the same standards as everybody else?
That would be a first.

I worked that station yesterday. Once they were moved, they had a right to make a ruckus if they wanted. They were enthusiatic. I heard them outside, but, I wasn't aware they were protesting early voting. I thought they were just shouting "Trump!" and "4more years! I didn't see them blocking the doors. They may have just been in the way of the line or too close to the building. (All political speech has to stay so many feet back from the door).

If they were actually protesting early voting, it is ironic that they came inside and VOTED EARLY!

I saw them and served them.

No, they don’t. That is intimidation.

Yes. How do I know they won't rough us up, like Trump made them do at rallies?

Until someone makes a threstening gesture, you can't presume evil intention. But, there were voters who felt harrassed, and that's why the waiting voters were brought inside to wrap around the hallways. It was all handled well, and that's how democracy should work!

You can, actually. What other reason would they have to protest a voting place? How many excuses do you need to manufacture for what is fundamentally anti-democratic behavior? Why do you defend what is functionally fascism? They’re entitled to go vote there (presuming they’re registered and eligible to vote in that location), they are not entitled to protest voting or block access, and in the time of covid they certainly shouldn’t be out there spewing their unmasked breath.

It’s disgusting and the worst kind of optics. The GOP is totally opposed to their opponents voting.

Political speech is the MOST protected speech!

They have to stay X feet back, but once they fo that, they can chant and clap and cheer if they want. Nobody has to like it, but they can do it...and although I do not support their position and I question their intelligence/strategy/logic, the most obvious place to have political speech is where people are going to make political decisions!

I'm sure back in the 1700s and 1800s, men with wigs werr giving speeches outside of voting places too! That is democracy, and we should protect it even if we support the other party.

If the weren't blocking anybody or threatening harm -- which I don't think they were -- then they can be obnoxious if they want. Probably won't win any new converts that way, but they can have their say.

Nope. No yelling.

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title24.2/chapter6/section24.2-607/
B. No person shall conduct himself in a noisy or riotous manner at or about the polls

And they were blocking the path to access the facility.

Why weren’t the police called immediately? The poll workers failed to do their job.

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Anonymous wrote:Where are the rubber bullets and tear gas to disperse these lawless thugs?

I hope they’re getting arrested.

You mean, Trump supporters being held to the same standards as everybody else?
That would be a first.

I worked that station yesterday. Once they were moved, they had a right to make a ruckus if they wanted. They were enthusiatic. I heard them outside, but, I wasn't aware they were protesting early voting. I thought they were just shouting "Trump!" and "4more years! I didn't see them blocking the doors. They may have just been in the way of the line or too close to the building. (All political speech has to stay so many feet back from the door).

If they were actually protesting early voting, it is ironic that they came inside and VOTED EARLY!

I saw them and served them.

No, they don’t. That is intimidation.

Yes. How do I know they won't rough us up, like Trump made them do at rallies?

Until someone makes a threstening gesture, you can't presume evil intention. But, there were voters who felt harrassed, and that's why the waiting voters were brought inside to wrap around the hallways. It was all handled well, and that's how democracy should work!

You can, actually. What other reason would they have to protest a voting place? How many excuses do you need to manufacture for what is fundamentally anti-democratic behavior? Why do you defend what is functionally fascism? They’re entitled to go vote there (presuming they’re registered and eligible to vote in that location), they are not entitled to protest voting or block access, and in the time of covid they certainly shouldn’t be out there spewing their unmasked breath.

It’s disgusting and the worst kind of optics. The GOP is totally opposed to their opponents voting.

Political speech is the MOST protected speech!

They have to stay X feet back, but once they fo that, they can chant and clap and cheer if they want. Nobody has to like it, but they can do it...and although I do not support their position and I question their intelligence/strategy/logic, the most obvious place to have political speech is where people are going to make political decisions!

I'm sure back in the 1700s and 1800s, men with wigs werr giving speeches outside of voting places too! That is democracy, and we should protect it even if we support the other party.

If the weren't blocking anybody or threatening harm -- which I don't think they were -- then they can be obnoxious if they want. Probably won't win any new converts that way, but they can have their say.

Nope. They can't yell.

https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/title24.2/chapter6/section24.2-607/
B. No person shall conduct himself in a noisy or riotous manner at or about the polls so as to disturb the election or insult or abuse an officer of election.

If they have to provide escorts for voters to feel safe, then it's intimidation.

They weren't disturbing the election or insulting or abusing an officer of the election! No one in the actusl election rooms could have heard any of the noise because the rooms are quite far from the front of the building snd the rooms have no windows.

C'mon, dems! Are you really this fragile? Once they were moved to the proper distance, they cheered and chanted. I don't like motorcycles, but that doesn't make them "threatening." No one needed "an escort." The administration just moved the waiting people inside to keep everyone calm.

I don't remember how many came in to vote. I thought it was more than 3, but I wasn't counting. The ones I saw inside were not threatening or rude. They were shorter Asian people. One had two younger kids. Everyone who came inside behaved properly.

I think some people are trying to make a mountain out of a molehill.

If you really are a democrat, you should believe in the first amendment. Don't let hatred of any politician rob you of your core values....civil liberties for all.

They were absolutely disturbing the election. “At or about the polls”

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Anonymous wrote:Mostly non voters rallying at a polling place. Okie dokey then

They were there to stir up trouble.

Whatever - Virginia is done with their moron leader. These long lines are NOT his voters.

You can keep braying this as much as you want. They did nothing illegal and were simply exercising their 1st Amendment rights - without screaming in anyone’s face or demanding they join them, imagine that! We know you only promote free speech when you agree with what’s being said, but you’ll just have to deal with ALL Americans having the right to speak up.

Who protests at a polling place? It doesn’t make any sense. If they were actually protesting something objectionable, I’d agree with you 100%. They just showed up to ruffle people’s feathers. I suppose that is their right, albeit a less admirable one.

I’m absolutely not afraid of them, and don’t think they should have been removed. It just wasn’t a good look to protest where people are quietly exercising their right to vote. To protest there makes it look like they don’t want people voting, and that’s not something I can quite wrap my head around. They have to right to protest just to be jerks. It seems like that’s all they were doing. I hope protesting at polling places isn’t a trend.

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Anonymous wrote:Mostly non voters rallying at a polling place. Okie dokey then

They were there to stir up trouble.

Whatever - Virginia is done with their moron leader. These long lines are NOT his voters.

You can keep braying this as much as you want. They did nothing illegal and were simply exercising their 1st Amendment rights - without screaming in anyone’s face or demanding they join them, imagine that! We know you only promote free speech when you agree with what’s being said, but you’ll just have to deal with ALL Americans having the right to speak up.

Who protests at a polling place? It doesn’t make any sense. If they were actually protesting something objectionable, I’d agree with you 100%. They just showed up to ruffle people’s feathers. I suppose that is their right, albeit a less admirable one.

I’m absolutely not afraid of them, and don’t think they should have been removed. It just wasn’t a good look to protest where people are quietly exercising their right to vote. To protest there makes it look like they don’t want people voting, and that’s not something I can quite wrap my head around. They have to right to protest just to be jerks. It seems like that’s all they were doing. I hope protesting at polling places isn’t a trend.

Famous last words.

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Anonymous wrote:Va is solid blue of course. But this bodes well for the battlegrounds. Turnout was tremendous in 2018 (highest midterm turnout in over a century). I don't see why it wouldn't be the case again this year.

Solid blue? Maybe in NOVA. There’s an entire state out there that is not “solid blue.”

Do I need to explain statewide elections to you?

No, snotty - you don’t. Of course I know VA will probably go to Biden, but that doesn’t mean there won’t be a huge percentage who vote for Trump. I always find it interesting to see the exact counts for each candidate. The statement “VA is solid blue of course” completely dismisses all of the red voters.

But if Biden's haul is more than 60%, then VA is solid blue. That margin is not considered close.

We don’t know yet what Biden’s “haul” will be. In 2016, 49% went for Hillary and 44% for Trump - hardly “solid blue.”

The GOP does not hold a SINGLE statewide office in the Commonwealth of Virginia. A GOP POTUS candidate has not won the Commonwealth of Virginia since 2004.

Virginia is solid blue. Not sorry.

What are you talking about? There are 11 Representatives from VA in Congress and nearly half of the VA Senate are Republicans.

Members of the House of Representatives and members of the state senate do not hold statewide office.

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this just proves that these nuts are in a cult

This has never been a thing before trump. never.

Trump supporters are cult members.

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How did the AP know that only three of the pro Trump protesters are registered voters?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mostly non voters rallying at a polling place. Okie dokey then

They were there to stir up trouble.

Whatever - Virginia is done with their moron leader. These long lines are NOT his voters.

You can keep braying this as much as you want. They did nothing illegal and were simply exercising their 1st Amendment rights - without screaming in anyone’s face or demanding they join them, imagine that! We know you only promote free speech when you agree with what’s being said, but you’ll just have to deal with ALL Americans having the right to speak up.

Who protests at a polling place? It doesn’t make any sense. If they were actually protesting something objectionable, I’d agree with you 100%. They just showed up to ruffle people’s feathers. I suppose that is their right, albeit a less admirable one.

I’m absolutely not afraid of them, and don’t think they should have been removed. It just wasn’t a good look to protest where people are quietly exercising their right to vote. To protest there makes it look like they don’t want people voting, and that’s not something I can quite wrap my head around. They have to right to protest just to be jerks. It seems like that’s all they were doing. I hope protesting at polling places isn’t a trend.

Nope. It’s not their “right” to disrupt the polling station.

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How many spouting opinions about this were actually there?

Very few. Let it go.

It was not a big deal.

[Anonymous]

Clinton beat Trump in Fairfax county by more than 30 points. I don’t think it’s arrogance, as much as just an educated guess.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Mostly non voters rallying at a polling place. Okie dokey then

They were there to stir up trouble.

Whatever - Virginia is done with their moron leader. These long lines are NOT his voters.

You can keep braying this as much as you want. They did nothing illegal and were simply exercising their 1st Amendment rights - without screaming in anyone’s face or demanding they join them, imagine that! We know you only promote free speech when you agree with what’s being said, but you’ll just have to deal with ALL Americans having the right to speak up.

Who protests at a polling place? It doesn’t make any sense. If they were actually protesting something objectionable, I’d agree with you 100%. They just showed up to ruffle people’s feathers. I suppose that is their right, albeit a less admirable one.

I’m absolutely not afraid of them, and don’t think they should have been removed. It just wasn’t a good look to protest where people are quietly exercising their right to vote. To protest there makes it look like they don’t want people voting, and that’s not something I can quite wrap my head around. They have to right to protest just to be jerks. It seems like that’s all they were doing. I hope protesting at polling places isn’t a trend.

Except that they weren’t protesting - for the 100th time. They were simply holding a small rally. And they weren’t intimidating anyone, as much as liberals and the media enjoy pretending they were. Since when is chanting for your preferred candidate “intimidation”? Absurd.

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Anonymous wrote:Clinton beat Trump in Fairfax county by more than 30 points. I don’t think it’s arrogance, as much as just an educated guess.

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