US vs Thailand

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DD played a game in which they crushed the other team. Because it was a tournament, they did continue to score, but she said when she came off, by the end of the game, no one enjoyed it any more. By the 7th goal, it wasn't any fun and because it was so easy to score on them, the goals didn't feel meaningful.

Had your child been playing in the World Cup, I daresay the goals would still feel meaningful. It's not a local tournament. It's the World Cup.

And if they're playing in a tournament where goal differential matters, I would expect their coach to have explained it to them. Once you lose your first tournament because the team you tied had more goals than you, you learn every single goal matters.

Yes, every single goal matters. This isn't the first time these women have played on an international stage. Most of you posting sound like just tuned into international football for the first time (or every 4 years, typical Americans). This team is known for it's poor behavior and its not typical of prior American Women's Team. They are embarrassing.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD played a game in which they crushed the other team. Because it was a tournament, they did continue to score, but she said when she came off, by the end of the game, no one enjoyed it any more. By the 7th goal, it wasn't any fun and because it was so easy to score on them, the goals didn't feel meaningful.

Had your child been playing in the World Cup, I daresay the goals would still feel meaningful. It's not a local tournament. It's the World Cup.

And if they're playing in a tournament where goal differential matters, I would expect their coach to have explained it to them. Once you lose your first tournament because the team you tied had more goals than you, you learn every single goal matters.

Yes, every single goal matters. This isn't the first time these women have played on an international stage. Most of you posting sound like just tuned into international football for the first time (or every 4 years, typical Americans). This team is known for it's poor behavior and its not typical of prior American Women's Team. They are embarrassing.

Not a single person has said that they should not have kept scoring. How is that fact lost on you?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DD played a game in which they crushed the other team. Because it was a tournament, they did continue to score, but she said when she came off, by the end of the game, no one enjoyed it any more. By the 7th goal, it wasn't any fun and because it was so easy to score on them, the goals didn't feel meaningful.

Had your child been playing in the World Cup, I daresay the goals would still feel meaningful. It's not a local tournament. It's the World Cup.

And if they're playing in a tournament where goal differential matters, I would expect their coach to have explained it to them. Once you lose your first tournament because the team you tied had more goals than you, you learn every single goal matters.

Yes, every single goal matters. This isn't the first time these women have played on an international stage. Most of you posting sound like just tuned into international football for the first time (or every 4 years, typical Americans). This team is known for it's poor behavior and its not typical of prior American Women's Team. They are embarrassing.

+1

[Anonymous]

I for one welcome the evil USWNT. Let everyone’s game against us be their final and let them step up their game to try to knock us off. Should make for a more exciting World Cup.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:When you score a goal in a World Cup, then you can tell someone else not to celebrate. Did you also complain when Germany hammered Brazil 8-0, or was that okay because it was the men? Or because it was against a traditional powerhouse?

Germany was up 5-0 at half and won 7-1 vs Brazil. US up 3-0 at half and win 13-0. Don't see a difference? Germany kept playing, but understood what mattered is maintaining and improving their quality of play. US women play checkers; Germany's men play chess.

So, here's a serious question - what would you have them do? Non-starters were put in, to the limit soccer permits. The rules don't allow for the entire starting 11 to be replaced with lesser players, and even if they did, the US reserves are markedly better than the Thai first string. Should they just not shoot? Just passing around the ball isn't going to improve the quality of the US team's play; if anything, it's detrimental because the talent gap is so large.

It isn’t about the goals being scored it is about the excessive celebration. After about 6 act like you’ve been there before. Nobody is suggesting they take their foot off the gas but clearly Thailand is not very good so why all the celebrations in freaking Group Stage? The defending World Cup Champions acting like they just won World Cup again. It’s just Group Stage!!

Maybe you should learn a bit about the game. Not everyone on the team HAD been there before. To score your first World Cup goal is amazing. Period. It's a lifetime's work.

But I'm sure you'll tell us who is allowed to celebrate which accomplishments and when. Since it's not ok for young American women to celebrate their first World Cup goals, who exactly is it ok for?

It was Group Stage against Thailand. Please.

It was the World Cup. Making the team is huge. Making it into the group stage is huge. Making a goal is huge. Many kids put their entire lives into this and don't even make it to this point. Most of us have nothing in our lives to compare. This is a tremendous life accomplishment, well worthy of excitement, and celebration.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Scoring goals in extra time up 12-0...pathetic.

They can’t do anything right in your eyes, I suspect. If they hadn’t continued to score against a vastly inferior team, you would have said they were incompetent/worthless/pathetic. But score 13 goals and they’re still pathetic? Maybe they should just stay home and make your dinner, right?

There's an unwritten rule that if you're killing a team, you don't go past 9 goals. I doubt they'll need *that* much if they need to go through on goal difference. The 13th goal showed a lack of sportsmanship.

But hell, I'm not the coach and I never made the national team.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you score a goal in a World Cup, then you can tell someone else not to celebrate. Did you also complain when Germany hammered Brazil 8-0, or was that okay because it was the men? Or because it was against a traditional powerhouse?

Germany was up 5-0 at half and won 7-1 vs Brazil. US up 3-0 at half and win 13-0. Don't see a difference? Germany kept playing, but understood what mattered is maintaining and improving their quality of play. US women play checkers; Germany's men play chess.

So, here's a serious question - what would you have them do? Non-starters were put in, to the limit soccer permits. The rules don't allow for the entire starting 11 to be replaced with lesser players, and even if they did, the US reserves are markedly better than the Thai first string. Should they just not shoot? Just passing around the ball isn't going to improve the quality of the US team's play; if anything, it's detrimental because the talent gap is so large.

It isn’t about the goals being scored it is about the excessive celebration. After about 6 act like you’ve been there before. Nobody is suggesting they take their foot off the gas but clearly Thailand is not very good so why all the celebrations in freaking Group Stage? The defending World Cup Champions acting like they just won World Cup again. It’s just Group Stage!!

Maybe you should learn a bit about the game. Not everyone on the team HAD been there before. To score your first World Cup goal is amazing. Period. It's a lifetime's work.

But I'm sure you'll tell us who is allowed to celebrate which accomplishments and when. Since it's not ok for young American women to celebrate their first World Cup goals, who exactly is it ok for?

It was Group Stage against Thailand. Please.

It was the World Cup. Making the team is huge. Making it into the group stage is huge. Making a goal is huge. Many kids put their entire lives into this and don't even make it to this point. Most of us have nothing in our lives to compare. This is a tremendous life accomplishment, well worthy of excitement, and celebration.

And when the game is in hand celebrate as if it is. Continue to score but be more mature. Stop. It was embarrassing how they acted not how they played.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Scoring goals in extra time up 12-0...pathetic.

They can’t do anything right in your eyes, I suspect. If they hadn’t continued to score against a vastly inferior team, you would have said they were incompetent/worthless/pathetic. But score 13 goals and they’re still pathetic? Maybe they should just stay home and make your dinner, right?

There's an unwritten rule that if you're killing a team, you don't go past 9 goals. I doubt they'll need *that* much if they need to go through on goal difference. The 13th goal showed a lack of sportsmanship.

But hell, I'm not the coach and I never made the national team.

And frankly, if they need that 13 goal differential to escape the group stage they are in trouble in the knockout round.

[Anonymous]

Would this even be a discussion if it was the mens’ World Cup? Are the women supposed to walk daintily away after scoring goals? Is it more ladylike to hold back from crushing your opponents? Give me a break. These women deserve to celebrate every goal and should score as many as possible. They are the best in the world and should not hold back just to be polite.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Scoring goals in extra time up 12-0...pathetic.

They can’t do anything right in your eyes, I suspect. If they hadn’t continued to score against a vastly inferior team, you would have said they were incompetent/worthless/pathetic. But score 13 goals and they’re still pathetic? Maybe they should just stay home and make your dinner, right?

There's an unwritten rule that if you're killing a team, you don't go past 9 goals. I doubt they'll need *that* much if they need to go through on goal difference. The 13th goal showed a lack of sportsmanship.

But hell, I'm not the coach and I never made the national team.

Then tell FIFA to not count GD past 9. (Although the previous record was 11, so apparently those 2 extra goals are the terrible ones.)

As long as goal differential matters, every single goal matters. You cannot know in the first game what you need, and if you guess wrong and you end up not making it out of a stage because you chose to ease off in an early game, you have failed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD played a game in which they crushed the other team. Because it was a tournament, they did continue to score, but she said when she came off, by the end of the game, no one enjoyed it any more. By the 7th goal, it wasn't any fun and because it was so easy to score on them, the goals didn't feel meaningful.

Had your child been playing in the World Cup, I daresay the goals would still feel meaningful. It's not a local tournament. It's the World Cup.

And if they're playing in a tournament where goal differential matters, I would expect their coach to have explained it to them. Once you lose your first tournament because the team you tied had more goals than you, you learn every single goal matters.

Yes, every single goal matters. This isn't the first time these women have played on an international stage. Most of you posting sound like just tuned into international football for the first time (or every 4 years, typical Americans). This team is known for it's poor behavior and its not typical of prior American Women's Team. They are embarrassing.

Not a single person has said that they should not have kept scoring. How is that fact lost on you?

+1 some people have serious issues with reading comprehension. All they want to hear is exactly what they are saying and that’s it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My DD played a game in which they crushed the other team. Because it was a tournament, they did continue to score, but she said when she came off, by the end of the game, no one enjoyed it any more. By the 7th goal, it wasn't any fun and because it was so easy to score on them, the goals didn't feel meaningful.

Had your child been playing in the World Cup, I daresay the goals would still feel meaningful. It's not a local tournament. It's the World Cup.

And if they're playing in a tournament where goal differential matters, I would expect their coach to have explained it to them. Once you lose your first tournament because the team you tied had more goals than you, you learn every single goal matters.

Yes, every single goal matters. This isn't the first time these women have played on an international stage. Most of you posting sound like just tuned into international football for the first time (or every 4 years, typical Americans). This team is known for it's poor behavior and its not typical of prior American Women's Team. They are embarrassing.

Not a single person has said that they should not have kept scoring. How is that fact lost on you?

That is not what I said at all - how is THAT fact lost on you? Their poor behavior.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When you score a goal in a World Cup, then you can tell someone else not to celebrate. Did you also complain when Germany hammered Brazil 8-0, or was that okay because it was the men? Or because it was against a traditional powerhouse?

Germany was up 5-0 at half and won 7-1 vs Brazil. US up 3-0 at half and win 13-0. Don't see a difference? Germany kept playing, but understood what mattered is maintaining and improving their quality of play. US women play checkers; Germany's men play chess.

So, here's a serious question - what would you have them do? Non-starters were put in, to the limit soccer permits. The rules don't allow for the entire starting 11 to be replaced with lesser players, and even if they did, the US reserves are markedly better than the Thai first string. Should they just not shoot? Just passing around the ball isn't going to improve the quality of the US team's play; if anything, it's detrimental because the talent gap is so large.

It isn’t about the goals being scored it is about the excessive celebration. After about 6 act like you’ve been there before. Nobody is suggesting they take their foot off the gas but clearly Thailand is not very good so why all the celebrations in freaking Group Stage? The defending World Cup Champions acting like they just won World Cup again. It’s just Group Stage!!

Maybe you should learn a bit about the game. Not everyone on the team HAD been there before. To score your first World Cup goal is amazing. Period. It's a lifetime's work.

But I'm sure you'll tell us who is allowed to celebrate which accomplishments and when. Since it's not ok for young American women to celebrate their first World Cup goals, who exactly is it ok for?

It was Group Stage against Thailand. Please.

It was the World Cup. Making the team is huge. Making it into the group stage is huge. Making a goal is huge. Many kids put their entire lives into this and don't even make it to this point. Most of us have nothing in our lives to compare. This is a tremendous life accomplishment, well worthy of excitement, and celebration.

And when the game is in hand celebrate as if it is. Continue to score but be more mature. Stop. It was embarrassing how they acted not how they played.

So Mallory Pugh making her very first World Cup goal in her very first World Cup should've just turned away and lined back up ready to play again. She doesn't get to be supported and congratulated by her teammates, because there's more than a 2? 3? goal difference? When do they have to stop celebrating their teammates on a long sought, hard fought accomplishment, exactly?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Would this even be a discussion if it was the mens’ World Cup? Are the women supposed to walk daintily away after scoring goals? Is it more ladylike to hold back from crushing your opponents? Give me a break. These women deserve to celebrate every goal and should score as many as possible. They are the best in the world and should not hold back just to be polite.

Yes, I have said the same thing during the men's world cup. Again, if you watched international football more frequently than just world cup matches every few years, you'd have an understanding of the sport. Goal differential matters. Poor sportsmanship is disappointing at the international level.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My DD played a game in which they crushed the other team. Because it was a tournament, they did continue to score, but she said when she came off, by the end of the game, no one enjoyed it any more. By the 7th goal, it wasn't any fun and because it was so easy to score on them, the goals didn't feel meaningful.

Had your child been playing in the World Cup, I daresay the goals would still feel meaningful. It's not a local tournament. It's the World Cup.

And if they're playing in a tournament where goal differential matters, I would expect their coach to have explained it to them. Once you lose your first tournament because the team you tied had more goals than you, you learn every single goal matters.

Yes, every single goal matters. This isn't the first time these women have played on an international stage. Most of you posting sound like just tuned into international football for the first time (or every 4 years, typical Americans). This team is known for it's poor behavior and its not typical of prior American Women's Team. They are embarrassing.

Not a single person has said that they should not have kept scoring. How is that fact lost on you?

I posted before I don't think they needed to keep scoring after 10 goals. Every goal does NOT matter! It only matters if you are tied with another team in the standings. Both the first and second place teams advance. And they way they did the brackets even if the US placed second they will face a second place team in the knock out round. The US should be more confident they can beat Chile and Sweden. If they were they wouldn't need to rely on goal differentials.