What's with the constant put down here of hardworking kids as "Striver" kids"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Many people reach their 20’s and end up very resentful that they spent their whole life thus far pursuing their parents’ dream instead of their own.

Tiger mom says 'so what'? kid. Some day I live in your nice house and you pay my bills in old age. I live long time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many people reach their 20’s and end up very resentful that they spent their whole life thus far pursuing their parents’ dream instead of their own.

Bingo!

If you feel this way ... your parents were probably strivers.

If you don’t, your parents probably were not.

You’ve invested an astonishing amount of time on this petty thread. I get the overwhelming sense that you are deeply unhappy and disappointed in how your own life is unfolding so you cast about for ways to belittle or minimize the accomplishments of others. And I’m sure you lack the self-awareness to realize how pathetically unhealthy your behavior appears to others.

NP

That’s funny, because after that little screed you look like the unhealthy one to me. Almost as unhealthy as the strivers and their kids, just in a different way...

Lol....NP. Sure you are.

Just can’t handle that there is more than one person who thinks strivers like you suck. I am not the person you responded to. Ask Jeff. I triple dog dare you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you came to the US illegally and cheated the immigration system, put your kids into the free public schools and cheated the tax payers, you are a striver - working hard to beat the system for your family.

yes melania is a striver.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many people reach their 20’s and end up very resentful that they spent their whole life thus far pursuing their parents’ dream instead of their own.

Tiger mom says 'so what'? kid. Some day I live in your nice house and you pay my bills in old age. I live long time.

Tiger mom is not a striver.

It is two different things. Not totally different, there is an intersection in some things they do but most tiger moms are not strivers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many people reach their 20’s and end up very resentful that they spent their whole life thus far pursuing their parents’ dream instead of their own.

Bingo!

If you feel this way ... your parents were probably strivers.

If you don’t, your parents probably were not.

You’ve invested an astonishing amount of time on this petty thread. I get the overwhelming sense that you are deeply unhappy and disappointed in how your own life is unfolding so you cast about for ways to belittle or minimize the accomplishments of others. And I’m sure you lack the self-awareness to realize how pathetically unhealthy your behavior appears to others.

NP

That’s funny, because after that little screed you look like the unhealthy one to me. Almost as unhealthy as the strivers and their kids, just in a different way...

Lol....NP. Sure you are.

Just can’t handle that there is more than one person who thinks strivers like you suck. I am not the person you responded to. Ask Jeff. I triple dog dare you.

And +1 to that, which makes three, since I'm not part of the exchange above.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is hopeless. Apparently it's not possible to explain this concept, but there are too many people who don't work beyond the surface of language. It's just too much, too soon, I'm also struck by how many people here are confused by the word "cool."

why don't you explain what you're trying to say?

It’s been explained many times but many still don’t get it.

Hard workers are not strivers
Not all ivy kids are strivers (most aren’t actually)
Tiger moms are not strivers
Football players are not connected
It’s not about old money not letting you in

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Many people reach their 20’s and end up very resentful that they spent their whole life thus far pursuing their parents’ dream instead of their own.

Bingo!

If you feel this way ... your parents were probably strivers.

If you don’t, your parents probably were not.

You’ve invested an astonishing amount of time on this petty thread. I get the overwhelming sense that you are deeply unhappy and disappointed in how your own life is unfolding so you cast about for ways to belittle or minimize the accomplishments of others. And I’m sure you lack the self-awareness to realize how pathetically unhealthy your behavior appears to others.

NP

That’s funny, because after that little screed you look like the unhealthy one to me. Almost as unhealthy as the strivers and their kids, just in a different way...

Lol....NP. Sure you are.

Just can’t handle that there is more than one person who thinks strivers like you suck. I am not the person you responded to. Ask Jeff. I triple dog dare you.

And +1 to that, which makes three, since I'm not part of the exchange above.

I’m with you too. But I did post above.

[Anonymous]

Forgive us you all look the same in your white hoods.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Forgive us you all look the same in your white hoods.

Nice try tiger mom.

You still don't get it but it's not on the SAT so don't worry about it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Forgive us you all look the same in your white hoods.

Nice try tiger mom.

You still don't get it but it's not on the SAT so don't worry about it.

Look, I'm not a striver and my kid doesn't have to be, because he has a naturally high IQ and white privilege. Your incessant crusade against "strivers" reflects on your own lack of confidence and ability. That's pretty much clear. Those of us who are actually confident and successful don't have to try to tear other people down. I quite like strivers (even though they do make me feel tired and yes, a bit insecure about my parenting.) This country pretty much depends on strivers moving us forward.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Forgive us you all look the same in your white hoods.

Nice try tiger mom.

You still don't get it but it's not on the SAT so don't worry about it.

Look, I'm not a striver and my kid doesn't have to be, because he has a naturally high IQ and white privilege. Your incessant crusade against "strivers" reflects on your own lack of confidence and ability. That's pretty much clear. Those of us who are actually confident and successful don't have to try to tear other people down. I quite like strivers (even though they do make me feel tired and yes, a bit insecure about my parenting.) This country pretty much depends on strivers moving us forward.

Then you have a complete misunderstanding of the term as it is being used in this thread.

Maybe we need to define the term again - but I thought it referred not to smart, hard working people but those who go about their pursuit of success in a cut-throat manner (as I've seen from some kids and their parents in my kid's AAP class). They don't give two f**ks about anybody else but their own personal success.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Forgive us you all look the same in your white hoods.

Nice try tiger mom.

You still don't get it but it's not on the SAT so don't worry about it.

Look, I'm not a striver and my kid doesn't have to be, because he has a naturally high IQ and white privilege. Your incessant crusade against "strivers" reflects on your own lack of confidence and ability. That's pretty much clear. Those of us who are actually confident and successful don't have to try to tear other people down. I quite like strivers (even though they do make me feel tired and yes, a bit insecure about my parenting.) This country pretty much depends on strivers moving us forward.

You clearly have no clue what the word striver means.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Forgive us you all look the same in your white hoods.

Nice try tiger mom.

You still don't get it but it's not on the SAT so don't worry about it.

Look, I'm not a striver and my kid doesn't have to be, because he has a naturally high IQ and white privilege. Your incessant crusade against "strivers" reflects on your own lack of confidence and ability. That's pretty much clear. Those of us who are actually confident and successful don't have to try to tear other people down. I quite like strivers (even though they do make me feel tired and yes, a bit insecure about my parenting.) This country pretty much depends on strivers moving us forward.

Then you have a complete misunderstanding of the term as it is being used in this thread.

Maybe we need to define the term again - but I thought it referred not to smart, hard working people but those who go about their pursuit of success in a cut-throat manner (as I've seen from some kids and their parents in my kid's AAP class). They don't give two f**ks about anybody else but their own personal success.

I mean, the fact that you even are monitoring what other kids (and parents) do in your child's AAP class (isn't that still elementary school??) indicates that you're obsessively projecting your own desperate need for success (i.e., striverism by your definition). Unless these kids are say, destroying classroom materials so other people can't use them, hacking the system to change their grades, or plagiarizing ... I don't really see how what they do impacts your kid. You sound jealous and insecure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Forgive us you all look the same in your white hoods.

Nice try tiger mom.

You still don't get it but it's not on the SAT so don't worry about it.

Look, I'm not a striver and my kid doesn't have to be, because he has a naturally high IQ and white privilege. Your incessant crusade against "strivers" reflects on your own lack of confidence and ability. That's pretty much clear. Those of us who are actually confident and successful don't have to try to tear other people down. I quite like strivers (even though they do make me feel tired and yes, a bit insecure about my parenting.) This country pretty much depends on strivers moving us forward.

You clearly have no clue what the word striver means.

Um, you're the one using a word that has a dictionary definition with positive connotations to mean something else ...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Forgive us you all look the same in your white hoods.

Nice try tiger mom.

You still don't get it but it's not on the SAT so don't worry about it.

Look, I'm not a striver and my kid doesn't have to be, because he has a naturally high IQ and white privilege. Your incessant crusade against "strivers" reflects on your own lack of confidence and ability. That's pretty much clear. Those of us who are actually confident and successful don't have to try to tear other people down. I quite like strivers (even though they do make me feel tired and yes, a bit insecure about my parenting.) This country pretty much depends on strivers moving us forward.

Then you have a complete misunderstanding of the term as it is being used in this thread.

Maybe we need to define the term again - but I thought it referred not to smart, hard working people but those who go about their pursuit of success in a cut-throat manner (as I've seen from some kids and their parents in my kid's AAP class). They don't give two f**ks about anybody else but their own personal success.

I mean, the fact that you even are monitoring what other kids (and parents) do in your child's AAP class (isn't that still elementary school??) indicates that you're obsessively projecting your own desperate need for success (i.e., striverism by your definition). Unless these kids are say, destroying classroom materials so other people can't use them, hacking the system to change their grades, or plagiarizing ... I don't really see how what they do impacts your kid. You sound jealous and insecure.

I'm not "monitoring." It was an example of what I consider stivers do. Like the kid who started a "Go" club because he heard it looked good on the college resume. He didn't really even like to play that game.