We visited UVA this weekend...

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Anonymous wrote:We also visited UVA two weeks ago. We liked it overall, it is a good safety school for us and they do have a program that my child is interested in. The only thing that really jumped up to me is how white is the student body. We've spent on the campus the entire day, and then ate a dinner near UVA and probably saw 3 asian kids and one or two AA. It is such a big difference from what we've seen in Harvard or Columbia.


I'm Asian and I hear this all the time from current students at UVA. How white UVA is.


Here is UVA's demographic breakdown:

0.1% American Indian/Alaskan Native
13.1% Asian
6.5% Black/African-American
6.4% Hispanic/Latino
4.7% Multi-race (not Hispanic/Latino)
0.0% Native Hawaiian/ Pacific Islander
63.3% White
5.8% Unknown

It's also about 8 percent Jewish, and when I went there a decade ago had the most active Jewish campus life at any Virginia school, FWIW.

So it's less diverse than Harvard or Columbia but hardly all southern WASPs.


I attended UVA and most of my friends were Asian or black. I participated in a sorority but did not have a drinking problem. Definitely went to parties but there's a lot to do and lots of other groups and outlets other than Greek. I played a lot of IM sports, a lot of students volunteer, participate in music, singing, the arts, student government, radio, newspaper, U Guides, and more. I didn't know any slackers but I did know a lot of people who would work hard and play hard. My college friends have all been very successful adults.


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Your statistics are old. For the class of 2020: Caucasian down to 57%. Asian Americans up to 14%+ plus additional breakdowns for Native Hawaiians, etc.
Enrollment by race (sorry chart won't work here)
White American
Asian American
African American
Multi-Race American
Hispanic American
Non-Resident Alien
Native American or Alaska Native
Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander
Unclassified or Unknown

Prior to 2009, students were only given the opportunity to list themselves in one racial category. Starting in 2009:

*Students of mixed race/ethnicity were encouraged to report their race/ethnicity in more than one category.
The Asian/Pacific Islander category was split into two new categories: (1) Asian, and (2) Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander.
Hispanic was considered to be an ethnicity, separate from the other racial categories.
The University is required to report students in only one category in order to avoid duplication. Trumping rules are used to determine in which categories to count students of mixed race/ethnicity:

Any student who is a non-resident alien foreign student is counted as non-resident, no matter his or her race or ethnicity. (This was not a new rule in 2009.)
A student who did not give any race/ethnicity information is designated “Unknown.”
Any other student who is of Hispanic ethnicity is counted in the Hispanic category, no matter what other race he or she may have reported.
Any student who listed more than one race, and is not of Hispanic ethnicity, is counted in a new category called “multiple race.”
All remaining students, those who chose only one racial category (and are not of Hispanic ethnicity), are put into that category.
SOURCE: George Stovall, Office of Institutional Assessment and Studies

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We also visited UVA two weeks ago. We liked it overall, it is a good safety school for us and they do have a program that my child is interested in. The only thing that really jumped up to me is how white is the student body. We've spent on the campus the entire day, and then ate a dinner near UVA and probably saw 3 asian kids and one or two AA. It is such a big difference from what we've seen in Harvard or Columbia.


I'm Asian and I hear this all the time from current students at UVA. How white UVA is.


Here is UVA's demographic breakdown:

0.1% American Indian/Alaskan Native
13.1% Asian
6.5% Black/African-American
6.4% Hispanic/Latino
4.7% Multi-race (not Hispanic/Latino)
0.0% Native Hawaiian/ Pacific Islander
63.3% White
5.8% Unknown

It's also about 8 percent Jewish, and when I went there a decade ago had the most active Jewish campus life at any Virginia school, FWIW.

So it's less diverse than Harvard or Columbia but hardly all southern WASPs.


I attended UVA and most of my friends were Asian or black. I participated in a sorority but did not have a drinking problem. Definitely went to parties but there's a lot to do and lots of other groups and outlets other than Greek. I played a lot of IM sports, a lot of students volunteer, participate in music, singing, the arts, student government, radio, newspaper, U Guides, and more. I didn't know any slackers but I did know a lot of people who would work hard and play hard. My college friends have all been very successful adults.


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Your statistics are old. For the class of 2020: Caucasian down to 57%. Asian Americans up to 14%+ plus additional breakdowns for Native Hawaiians, etc.
Enrollment by race (sorry chart won't work here)
White American
Asian American
African American
Multi-Race American
Hispanic American
Non-Resident Alien
Native American or Alaska Native
Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander
Unclassified or Unknown

Prior to 2009, students were only given the opportunity to list themselves in one racial category. Starting in 2009:

*Students of mixed race/ethnicity were encouraged to report their race/ethnicity in more than one category.
The Asian/Pacific Islander category was split into two new categories: (1) Asian, and (2) Native Hawaiian or other Pacific Islander.
Hispanic was considered to be an ethnicity, separate from the other racial categories.
The University is required to report students in only one category in order to avoid duplication. Trumping rules are used to determine in which categories to count students of mixed race/ethnicity:

Any student who is a non-resident alien foreign student is counted as non-resident, no matter his or her race or ethnicity. (This was not a new rule in 2009.)
A student who did not give any race/ethnicity information is designated “Unknown.”
Any other student who is of Hispanic ethnicity is counted in the Hispanic category, no matter what other race he or she may have reported.
Any student who listed more than one race, and is not of Hispanic ethnicity, is counted in a new category called “multiple race.”
All remaining students, those who chose only one racial category (and are not of Hispanic ethnicity), are put into that category.
SOURCE: George Stovall, Office of Institutional Assessment and Studies



Thank you everyone for statistics, I hope they are correct and my impression was wrong.
Anonymous
It can only take so many student (this year @676) from No. VA. 76 of those alone (mostly Asian Americans) come from T.J.
You're confusing people who go to UVA with people who were accepted. For those 676 who go to UVA, there are probably about 600 more who were accepted and declined went to other schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
It can only
  • take so many student (this year @676) from No. VA. 76 of those alone (mostly Asian Americans) come from T.J.
  • You're confusing people who go to UVA with people who were accepted. For those 676 who go to UVA, there are probably about 600 more who were accepted and declined went to other schools.



    I don't' think I'm confusing anything. Scroll down to Enrolled by county. 670 from FCPS, 200 Loudon, etc., down to zero or one from the outlying west and southern counties. http://digital.uvamagazine.org/articles/2020-insight/. I don't know anyone who has turned down UVA for another school except for one truly exceptional student who received both the Jefferson Scholar offer and Princeton. He chose Princeton full freight over the Jefferson (free ride).
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    It can only
  • take so many student (this year @676) from No. VA. 76 of those alone (mostly Asian Americans) come from T.J.
  • You're confusing people who go to UVA with people who were accepted. For those 676 who go to UVA, there are probably about 600 more who were accepted and declined went to other schools.



    I don't' think I'm confusing anything. Scroll down to Enrolled by county. 670 from FCPS, 200 Loudon, etc., down to zero or one from the outlying west and southern counties. http://digital.uvamagazine.org/articles/2020-insight/. I don't know anyone who has turned down UVA for another school except for one truly exceptional student who received both the Jefferson Scholar offer and Princeton. He chose Princeton full freight over the Jefferson (free ride).


    I know plenty students who turned down UVA.
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    It can only
  • take so many student (this year @676) from No. VA. 76 of those alone (mostly Asian Americans) come from T.J.
  • You're confusing people who go to UVA with people who were accepted. For those 676 who go to UVA, there are probably about 600 more who were accepted and declined went to other schools.



    I don't' think I'm confusing anything. Scroll down to Enrolled by county. 670 from FCPS, 200 Loudon, etc., down to zero or one from the outlying west and southern counties. http://digital.uvamagazine.org/articles/2020-insight/. I don't know anyone who has turned down UVA for another school except for one truly exceptional student who received both the Jefferson Scholar offer and Princeton. He chose Princeton full freight over the Jefferson (free ride).


    Plenty of kids turn down UVA.
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    It can only
  • take so many student (this year @676) from No. VA. 76 of those alone (mostly Asian Americans) come from T.J.
  • You're confusing people who go to UVA with people who were accepted. For those 676 who go to UVA, there are probably about 600 more who were accepted and declined went to other schools.



    I don't' think I'm confusing anything. Scroll down to Enrolled by county. 670 from FCPS, 200 Loudon, etc., down to zero or one from the outlying west and southern counties. http://digital.uvamagazine.org/articles/2020-insight/. I don't know anyone who has turned down UVA for another school except for one truly exceptional student who received both the Jefferson Scholar offer and Princeton. He chose Princeton full freight over the Jefferson (free ride).


    I know of Nova kids who didn't even want to apply to UVA. No interest in attending.
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    It can only
  • take so many student (this year @676) from No. VA. 76 of those alone (mostly Asian Americans) come from T.J.
  • You're confusing people who go to UVA with people who were accepted. For those 676 who go to UVA, there are probably about 600 more who were accepted and declined went to other schools.



    I don't' think I'm confusing anything. Scroll down to Enrolled by county. 670 from FCPS, 200 Loudon, etc., down to zero or one from the outlying west and southern counties. http://digital.uvamagazine.org/articles/2020-insight/. I don't know anyone who has turned down UVA for another school except for one truly exceptional student who received both the Jefferson Scholar offer and Princeton. He chose Princeton full freight over the Jefferson (free ride).


    I think I know that student. Anyway, lots of kids turn down UVA or don't even apply. My DD got in ED elsewhere and withdrew her EA application.
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    It can only
  • take so many student (this year @676) from No. VA. 76 of those alone (mostly Asian Americans) come from T.J.
  • You're confusing people who go to UVA with people who were accepted. For those 676 who go to UVA, there are probably about 600 more who were accepted and declined went to other schools.



    I don't' think I'm confusing anything. Scroll down to Enrolled by county. 670 from FCPS, 200 Loudon, etc., down to zero or one from the outlying west and southern counties. http://digital.uvamagazine.org/articles/2020-insight/. I don't know anyone who has turned down UVA for another school except for one truly exceptional student who received both the Jefferson Scholar offer and Princeton. He chose Princeton full freight over the Jefferson (free ride).

    You can see on other charts on that page that they separate out applied, admitted, and enrolled. That map is just showing enrolled. Most students apply to 6-10 and maybe more schools. Plenty of students get into UVA, but opt to go elsewhere. That's not to say it isn't a good school. It just means those kids felt drawn to another school that was better for their needs/wants.
    Anonymous
    In fact, didn't UVA accept hundreds of students off of waitlist this past year? I thought I heard some crazy number like 400 or something. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I vaguely heard something like that. It could have been some outlandish rumor. Anyway, if it's true, that obviously shows lots of kids turned them down.
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:In fact, didn't UVA accept hundreds of students off of waitlist this past year? I thought I heard some crazy number like 400 or something. Please correct me if I'm wrong but I vaguely heard something like that. It could have been some outlandish rumor. Anyway, if it's true, that obviously shows lots of kids turned them down.


    This year nearly 5000 applicants were offered spots on the waitlist with over 2800 deciding to be on the waitlist. Here are the numbers who got in off the waitlist over the last decade (per http://uvaapplication.blogspot.com/):

    2016 - 360
    2015- 402
    2014- 42
    2013 - 185
    2012 - 284
    2011 - 117
    2010 - 240
    2009 - 288
    2008 - 60
    2007 - 159
    2006 - 145
    2005 - 83
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    It can only
  • take so many student (this year @676) from No. VA. 76 of those alone (mostly Asian Americans) come from T.J.
  • You're confusing people who go to UVA with people who were accepted. For those 676 who go to UVA, there are probably about 600 more who were accepted and declined went to other schools.



    I don't' think I'm confusing anything. Scroll down to Enrolled by county. 670 from FCPS, 200 Loudon, etc., down to zero or one from the outlying west and southern counties. http://digital.uvamagazine.org/articles/2020-insight/. I don't know anyone who has turned down UVA for another school except for one truly exceptional student who received both the Jefferson Scholar offer and Princeton. He chose Princeton full freight over the Jefferson (free ride).


    I know of Nova kids who didn't even want to apply to UVA. No interest in attending.



    I don't and I live there. Those that don't apply are those that the publics won't support in their applications because they aren't sufficiently strong candidates.
    Anonymous
    Oh brother, PP. Both my DCs applied only to W&M among VA schools (and were accepted) because they did not like the UVA vibe. They were well qualified. I know of other kids who made the same decision not to apply. It is no surprise that the school does not suit everyone; no school does.
    Anonymous
    From the Dean re waitlist:

    How many people will come off the waiting list?
    Even though I've been doing this for years, I can't predict this one. May 1st is when all of the admitted students need to have deposits submitted to reserve a place in the class, which should be about 3,725 students. If we don't have that number of admitted students accepting a spot, we move to the waiting list.

    It's hard to cite trends with certainty. One year, we might have room for in-state Nursing students and the next year, that group could be full on May 1. We're all waiting to see how this works out right now.
    Anonymous
    Anonymous wrote:
    Anonymous wrote:
    It can only
  • take so many student (this year @676) from No. VA. 76 of those alone (mostly Asian Americans) come from T.J.
  • You're confusing people who go to UVA with people who were accepted. For those 676 who go to UVA, there are probably about 600 more who were accepted and declined went to other schools.



    I don't' think I'm confusing anything. Scroll down to Enrolled by county. 670 from FCPS, 200 Loudon, etc., down to zero or one from the outlying west and southern counties. http://digital.uvamagazine.org/articles/2020-insight/. I don't know anyone who has turned down UVA for another school except for one truly exceptional student who received both the Jefferson Scholar offer and Princeton. He chose Princeton full freight over the Jefferson (free ride).


    The chart doesn't indicate there are 670 enrolled from Fairfax County Public Schools, it is 670 from Fairfax County. This includes kids from public and private schools. Plenty of the kids that live in Fairfax County and go to school at DC privates or Virginia privates are enrolling in UVA.
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