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PP don't listen to all the horrible "advice" others are giving you - they are most likely cheaters themselves who want to calm the frenzy down out of fear for their own situations. You have every right to kick him out, and you should know that whatever lying and cheating he did, he is unlikely to truly curb it. Do what you feel you must (stay or go), but don't believe he's "changed" or "will change". If you let him back in, assume you're basically accepting that he's going to cheat again. Because he is. |
I'd love to see everyone who says this in the future when any daughters are dating a guy who is cheating on them. Will that be your advice for your daughter, "Stay with him cuz if you leave the next guy will probably be a cheater too?" I seriously doubt that. There are definitely men out there who do not cheat. And a lot fewer men who do cheat would if they were clear that women wouldn't put up with that shit and would kick them to the curb (or move out) immediately. People like PP here are just trying to make excuses and rationalize something that is still toxic and unacceptable. I feel sorry for your daughters PP if that's what your advice to them will be when they grow up. |
So just accept the cheating, then. Why get married if that's the case? Why "pretend" to be in a committed relationship, or think you're in a monogamous relationship? FWIW I haven't even looked at the list. |
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To the pregnant mom: Take your time, don't let on your plans, consider whether you want him around for the birth , etc but in the end I think it would be impossible for you to continue to raise kuds in a healthy respectful relationship with someone who is do fundamentally messed up. I dated someone like this. It was a true illness. Like you, I forgave the first time but it happened again, and when I got the email
Passwords it was discovering the tip of a vast and very ugly iceberg. Multiple accounts, women, messages, etc. He didn't necessarily seem to be meeting with many (but he was not extremely attractive ) but the lies, my god, and all the time and energy spent on all of it . I believe for him it was a form of emotional illness, a deep lack in his sense of self and others that would never go away or get better. He talked a good talk, even finding lots of self aware language to account for his behavior, but he couldn't change.i did not have kids with him, so I can't speak in your shoes but wanted to empathize and share my experience, which was someone that messed up (setting up new accounts an hour after being busted!!!!!!!) will never ever change. |
Only if you get a hit, right? I checked my husband and myself...not because I suspected either of us has cheated (I know I haven't and I was 100% sure he hadn't either) but because I wanted to see if anyone was using our email addresses. Neither of us had a hit or got an email- I told him I'd done it so no surprise. |
FYI, mother Teresa was pretty awful. Described the suffering of the poor as beautiful, refused to cure curable diseases, etc. The fact she's considered the epitome of good is surprising. |
Absolutely agree. No relationship is perfect and people make mistakes. There is a huge difference between LOVE and SEX and if the "good" in your relationship outweighs the "bad", you need to reevaluate. |
PP here, I actually kind of hope she had that experience. |
I am of the mindset that a fling, if remorseful, can be forgiven in the context of an otherwise good marriage. But your situation is really unfortunate. Sounds like you married a compulsive cheater. My honest advice to you if you decide to stay is to just accept he is going to continue cheating, so open the marriage and have it all on the table. Or accept he will cheat behind your back. I don't think it's realistic to expect this tiger to change his spots. |
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Of course, you should let fiances/wives/girlfriends know if you found their partner on the site. Why wouldn't you?Wouldn't you want to know? Or would you rather the whole world knew and you were the last to know. I would want to know.
Even if the trying-to-cheat spouse never got anywhere with their account, I know from personal experience, husbands who want to cheat, will keep trying till they find someone willing. Early counseling and testing for STDs can save a marriage/relationship than brushing it under the rug. |
My DW and I have an explicit understanding that if one of us cheats, the other doesn't want to know. We have a great marriage, happy home, a great team. I wouldn't divorce her if she screwed up and she feels the same, but I would be very hurt if I found out she cheated. So I would be irate if some busy-body "friend" decided it was their holier-than-thou mission to rub my nose in some fling my wife had. I imagine others feel similarly, even if we are in the minority. |
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My spouse is on there, but I knew about it. he has my permission to get some strange every once in a while, as long as he tells me about it, and as long as it is not a romantic relationship.
However, now we are BOTH pretty embarrassed...no, horrified actually, knowing that many of our friends have probably seen his name on there. God, I'm just hoping no one says anything to me about it, I'll just die! |
| When my now husband was my boyfriend, he told me he'd created an AM account before we started dating. NBD. |
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I have read this subject line before and I am not sure why the following just occurred to me but it did.
No, I didn't find her on Ashley Madison but I did come home and find her on another man. |
lol! sorry dude! |