This is true, but also sometimes kids engage in this behavior without fully understanding the situation. So it's both innocent AND being used as a weapon. They just don't know. These kids are 6. They might say "Larlo isn't invited to my party because I don't like him" which is rude and hurtful, but also just a fact that kid doesn't know you aren't supposed to say. Learning these sorts of social rules is hard for kids and takes years. |
She’s making it worse by teaching her kid that this is a legitimate grievance. It’s not. |
Thanks for proving my point with your ad hominem jab. Notice how you didn’t answer my question? |
The moms didn't "go to the gym together." They did a special visit to their child's gym class together. The child who sees this, notes his mom is not there, and feels embarrassed or hurt is actually correctly perceiving the social situation -- he is recognizing that there are a group of parents who know each other and are friends, and can plan special events for their kids like this which bring more attention to their kids and may improve their kids' social standing at school, and that his mom is not part of that group and cannot help his social standing at school in the same way. Like I guarantee the day those moms all showed up to gym class that day, all the kids noticed and talked about it and it conferred a special status on the kids whose moms were there. Maybe those kids got to do something special in class with their moms that the other kids didn't get to do, maybe the gym teacher gave the moms special jobs or made a big deal about it. The kid can tell this group of families has a kind of special status at the school by virtue of being a cohesive group, and he can tell that it helps those kids socially and that he doesn't have the same advantages. Telling him "oh this is like when you decide not to play tag" is gaslighting him. He understands the situation better than you do. |
🤦♀️ OP posted because she’s gone above and beyond and the other mom is acting pissy and huffy. The excluded mom needs to take it down a notch. She’s a taker with thin skin and OP should cut her off completely. |
This was an open event advertised in a newsletter. No one received an engraved invitation. This mom could easily have reached out to OP or another mother asking if they planned on going. Sometimes you have to make shit happen. |
You don't know enough to know if it's a legitimate grievance or not. She knows a lot more about her kid's experience with these other children at school than you do. She also knows more about it than OP. You are assuming the kid has no legitimate grievance but for all you know the other kids taunted him about not being invited to the party, or told him he's not invited because his parents are lame, or something similar. You don't know anything. |
I read OP as saying there is a standing invitation for parents to come to gym class, not that this was a specific event on a certain day. Also it's bizarre to argue that the mom should be checking in with OP or this group to see if they are planning on doing a coordinated visit. Can you imagine what this would actually look like IRL? A mom who is not a part of this friend group texting to ask what their plans are so she could invite herself to join? They would talk so much $hit about her behind her back if she did that, even more than they currently do. |
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What OP and some posters don't seem to get is that by virtue of this being an establish friend group who all have kids in the same grade at this school, and not just an amorphous group of parents at the school, it creates exclusion just by dint of existing.
It's not the fault of the moms in the friend group that this happens. It just does. It is going to make it hard for other parents to become friends with this group because there is no opportunity to do so -- they are already friends with each other, have shared history, and will not seek out other parents to befriend because they don't need to. I think the other mom has a reason to feel frustrated especially when it's impacting her son at school and making it harder for him to make friends as well. I don't necessarily think OP or the other women have to do anything about it (they could but don't have to), but it might be worth it to just acknowledge that their friendship makes school easier for them them and their kids and probably a bit harder for others and not be so miffed when other parents express frustration about it. The situation isn't anyone's fault exactly, but it's also harder for this other mom than it is for OP. It's a resource OP has an this other mom doesn't. |
She wouldn’t be asking for an invitation to join, since it’s an event open to all parents. She would just be saying “hey, are you going?” Sometimes people don’t like to go places by themselves but would go if others they know are going. |
Frustrations and grievances only hurt the people who carry them. My child has been the only one not invited on days off of school when parents planned events for their kids. So we started inviting a few friends he liked to activities they liked. No one will get anywhere by insisting large groups of other people do things differently. |
Again, it's not an event. OP said that the school allows parents to join gym class on Fridays and that people are made aware of this standing opportunity via the newsletter. What is the woman going to do -- check every week to find out if OP and the other moms are going to that Friday's class? |
Also, I would never let my child grow up in the fringes of another group, which is what happens when people try to badger into inclusion. |
How else would op know that the kids were talking about this at school? This parent pointed it out, hopelessly it’s addressed. Some things are ok to talk about at school and some aren’t. |
Right? My second grader is currently insisting that he is invited to trick or treat with a group. These moms are all friends. Am I supposed to text them like "hey ladies, what are we doing for Halloween?" I had these boys over last weekend and the moms just dropped them off. So I'm doing my part hosting. But it doesn't mean im in on all the plans. |