I am married to a passive, un-masculine man

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Anonymous wrote:Asia is already ahead of the West. Women these days in Asia complain VERY often about 'herbivore men'.

Well, that's what you get when you attack every aspect of masculinity as being toxic, brainwash kids starting in primary schools to confuse them about their sexuality and that cis gendered straight male as being the worst, and that being a manly man is toxic.

Have fun with your soy latte drinking, herbivore men ladies.

Help me out? What's wrong with soy lattes? Is heart health feminine? Just such weird cultural proxies for masculinity.

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Anonymous wrote:You want a real man, but society today frowns on real men, OP. Welcome to the great compromise. This is what women wanted.

Portions of society frown on it.

Enroll your son in tackle football. And then wrestling in the winter. And then lax or baseball in the spring.

Take him somewhere he can learn to fish or hunt.

Real, true masculine men exist. Not the fake masculinity. But the real one. Where men understand their responsibility to the next generation. Where they teach values and self-sufficiency. Where your son learn mental resiliency, toughness, and compassion.

Let your boy be the boy he is, assuming that you're asking bc he's different than his father

My answer would be: MOVE OUT OF THE BIZARRE WASH DC BUBBLE

Real men galore in the other areas and states. They seek work/life balance, are in shape, run businesses, coach kids sports teams, attend professional and kids sports games, BBQ meat and make pies, go to church & brunch every Sunday, spend time with extended family, review their kids’ grades work, maintain the yard and vehicles.

And a little more golf and tailgating before college games.

But otherwise it’s all good.

Lots of double dates too now that the kids are older and can stay home. Going to a speakeasy soon with some neighbors.

Idk if I equate ‘real men’ with ‘church’

Sorry you have no one of any faith in your life or neighborhood.

Lots of well-rounded “real men” and their families involved and going to synagogues, Hindu temples, Baptist churches, Catholic Churches, Presbyterian churches, episcopal churches, Lutheran churches, Methodist churches, Unitarian churches, etc.

I couldn't respect a grown man who believes in fairy tales.

Sounds like you never took a core liberal arts college class.

Bible, Koran and Torah are basically the history books of mankind.

Human nature is naturally greedy.

Religion is various communities attempts to counter greed and selfishness. Put something before yourself and material things. Have a sense of community. Have community goals and support. Life is hard, this will help.

Sure some extremism interpretation will create a new human god figure and goal, but those get sussed out for that they are. More human greed.

Anyways, go take a philosophy class as well. You haven’t really thought through much you claim. Things a common problem with some shallow college grads and activists right now.

Nice try. But "real men" going to church isn't about some kind of philosophy exercise. These are people who really believe there is a Man in the Sky watching, judging, and in need of money.

😂😂😂

So true. When I think ‘real man’ I am certainly not picturing someone in a church pew singing to a pretend dude in the sky.

More ignorance, lack of values, lack of community, lack of goals.
Keep it up and your tiny orbit and shallow stereotypes will continue to make a fool of yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:Society wants passive, soft men.

No, this is only in some liberal Wash DC circles. 90%++ of the country is not under that spell. By the small money that is is very loud and gets waPo and mass media and university time constantly. Most people tune it out but now need to course correct it.

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Anonymous wrote:lol, and if the husband acted like a ‘man’ you’d probably come back with another post whining about ‘toxic masculinity’.

Nope

Being a real man or not is not toxic versus pansy.

Pansy? Check your homophobia, my brother in Christ.

First off, means weak effeminate boy. Don’t care what some eras used as slang, it continues to mean timid weak- the Op theme.

Or has that old English word recently been hijacked by leftist activists and redefined and cancelled?

Then fools like you do their bidding. Name call. Pretend to know anything about someone else based on one word used. Hilarious.

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Then fools like you do their bidding. Name call.

Fools like me name call, do we? Interesting. Glad to see you rising above that sort of thing.

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Cockold?

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Then fools like you do their bidding. Name call.

Fools like me name call, do we? Interesting. Glad to see you rising above that sort of thing.

Lol
There you go again. Just can’t stop arguing and deflecting. Glad you’re not married.

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Anonymous wrote:lol, and if the husband acted like a ‘man’ you’d probably come back with another post whining about ‘toxic masculinity’.

It’s an indication of the uselessness of today’s men that you can’t even imagine being well-rounded. You’re either passive, lazy, disengaged, and perpetually depressed with man-boobs, or if you deign to exercise, then you think you get to be aggressive and misogynistic. No wonder marriage rates continue to plummet. What a pathetic bunch!

I get a chuckle out of the angry shrews on the board who are probably 5 out of 10s at best and 30 lbs overweight. Then they get mad why every decent man swipes left on their profile.

NP. Eesh. Are you going to insult her makeup next? One of the ugliest parts of American men is how eager you all are to lob insults at women. Even the allegedly ultra masculine conservative American men of the “manosphere” behave the same way. Do you guys even understand that being a sassy little beech who can get in the last dig on a woman isn’t remotely masculine? Travel the world and see how the men of the cultures you envy command respect by maintaining their dignity while disagreeing with women. Your fitness for leadership is revealed by how you behave while upset.

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Anonymous wrote:I love my husband but he is not like...a man. He does not have a big career or even works outside of the home! He runs a small business and hardly leaves the house. He cooks dinner most nights and does not show any interest in physical fitness or sports. He does not have male friends and he is a recluse.

We have a 3 year old that I know will seek out his father in terms of how to be a man, when the time comes. Is my situation as dire as being a single mom in terms of having role models for our son?

Sign your kid up for a range of activities m, be positive about them all, go to the best schools he can go to. All of that will provide tons of role models and develop his skills and interests.
Hopefully your husband will tag along. He may even surprise you and have some ideas of his own for said child to try. Or make some dad friends!

Definitely make play dates for your child and you or dad to attend. Go to every bday party. Throw your kid an entire class party. Do fun stuff on the holidays and make your own traditions.

Ideally you’d plan and do all these things with your husband, but if he’s too confused or introverted, you will have to do it yourself.

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Anonymous wrote:You want a real man, but society today frowns on real men, OP. Welcome to the great compromise. This is what women wanted.

Portions of society frown on it.

Enroll your son in tackle football. And then wrestling in the winter. And then lax or baseball in the spring.

Take him somewhere he can learn to fish or hunt.

Real, true masculine men exist. Not the fake masculinity. But the real one. Where men understand their responsibility to the next generation. Where they teach values and self-sufficiency. Where your son learn mental resiliency, toughness, and compassion.

Let your boy be the boy he is, assuming that you're asking bc he's different than his father

My answer would be: MOVE OUT OF THE BIZARRE WASH DC BUBBLE

Real men galore in the other areas and states. They seek work/life balance, are in shape, run businesses, coach kids sports teams, attend professional and kids sports games, BBQ meat and make pies, go to church & brunch every Sunday, spend time with extended family, review their kids’ grades work, maintain the yard and vehicles.

And a little more golf and tailgating before college games.

But otherwise it’s all good.

Lots of double dates too now that the kids are older and can stay home. Going to a speakeasy soon with some neighbors.

Idk if I equate ‘real men’ with ‘church’

Sorry you have no one of any faith in your life or neighborhood.

Lots of well-rounded “real men” and their families involved and going to synagogues, Hindu temples, Baptist churches, Catholic Churches, Presbyterian churches, episcopal churches, Lutheran churches, Methodist churches, Unitarian churches, etc.

I couldn't respect a grown man who believes in fairy tales.

Sounds like you never took a core liberal arts college class.

Bible, Koran and Torah are basically the history books of mankind.

Human nature is naturally greedy.

Religion is various communities attempts to counter greed and selfishness. Put something before yourself and material things. Have a sense of community. Have community goals and support. Life is hard, this will help.

Sure some extremism interpretation will create a new human god figure and goal, but those get sussed out for that they are. More human greed.

Anyways, go take a philosophy class as well. You haven’t really thought through much you claim. Things a common problem with some shallow college grads and activists right now.

Nice try. But "real men" going to church isn't about some kind of philosophy exercise. These are people who really believe there is a Man in the Sky watching, judging, and in need of money.

😂😂😂

So true. When I think ‘real man’ I am certainly not picturing someone in a church pew singing to a pretend dude in the sky.

More ignorance, lack of values, lack of community, lack of goals.
Keep it up and your tiny orbit and shallow stereotypes will continue to make a fool of yourself.

I have never mentioned my goals or community, and when it comes to making a fool of myself - i'm not the one singing to a made up man in the sky. So I think I'm good.

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Then fools like you do their bidding. Name call.

Fools like me name call, do we? Interesting. Glad to see you rising above that sort of thing.

Lol
There you go again. Just can’t stop arguing and deflecting. Glad you’re not married.

oh and by the way, the one person you think you're talking to is at least 3 people.
We just all think you are absolutely batsh*t and hilarious for conflating church with 'being a real man'.

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Anonymous wrote:You want a real man, but society today frowns on real men, OP. Welcome to the great compromise. This is what women wanted.

Portions of society frown on it.

Enroll your son in tackle football. And then wrestling in the winter. And then lax or baseball in the spring.

Take him somewhere he can learn to fish or hunt.

Real, true masculine men exist. Not the fake masculinity. But the real one. Where men understand their responsibility to the next generation. Where they teach values and self-sufficiency. Where your son learn mental resiliency, toughness, and compassion.

Let your boy be the boy he is, assuming that you're asking bc he's different than his father

My answer would be: MOVE OUT OF THE BIZARRE WASH DC BUBBLE

Real men galore in the other areas and states. They seek work/life balance, are in shape, run businesses, coach kids sports teams, attend professional and kids sports games, BBQ meat and make pies, go to church & brunch every Sunday, spend time with extended family, review their kids’ grades work, maintain the yard and vehicles.

And a little more golf and tailgating before college games.

But otherwise it’s all good.

Lots of double dates too now that the kids are older and can stay home. Going to a speakeasy soon with some neighbors.

Idk if I equate ‘real men’ with ‘church’

Sorry you have no one of any faith in your life or neighborhood.

Lots of well-rounded “real men” and their families involved and going to synagogues, Hindu temples, Baptist churches, Catholic Churches, Presbyterian churches, episcopal churches, Lutheran churches, Methodist churches, Unitarian churches, etc.

I couldn't respect a grown man who believes in fairy tales.

Sounds like you never took a core liberal arts college class.

Bible, Koran and Torah are basically the history books of mankind.

Human nature is naturally greedy.

Religion is various communities attempts to counter greed and selfishness. Put something before yourself and material things. Have a sense of community. Have community goals and support. Life is hard, this will help.

Sure some extremism interpretation will create a new human god figure and goal, but those get sussed out for that they are. More human greed.

Anyways, go take a philosophy class as well. You haven’t really thought through much you claim. Things a common problem with some shallow college grads and activists right now.

Nice try. But "real men" going to church isn't about some kind of philosophy exercise. These are people who really believe there is a Man in the Sky watching, judging, and in need of money.

😂😂😂

So true. When I think ‘real man’ I am certainly not picturing someone in a church pew singing to a pretend dude in the sky.

More ignorance, lack of values, lack of community, lack of goals.
Keep it up and your tiny orbit and shallow stereotypes will continue to make a fool of yourself.

I have never mentioned my goals or community, and when it comes to making a fool of myself - i'm not the one singing to a made up man in the sky. So I think I'm good.

There you go again.

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Then fools like you do their bidding. Name call.

Fools like me name call, do we? Interesting. Glad to see you rising above that sort of thing.

Lol
There you go again. Just can’t stop arguing and deflecting. Glad you’re not married.

oh and by the way, the one person you think you're talking to is at least 3 people.
We just all think you are absolutely batsh*t and hilarious for conflating church with 'being a real man'.

And again!

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Anonymous wrote:lol, and if the husband acted like a ‘man’ you’d probably come back with another post whining about ‘toxic masculinity’.

It’s an indication of the uselessness of today’s men that you can’t even imagine being well-rounded. You’re either passive, lazy, disengaged, and perpetually depressed with man-boobs, or if you deign to exercise, then you think you get to be aggressive and misogynistic. No wonder marriage rates continue to plummet. What a pathetic bunch!

I get a chuckle out of the angry shrews on the board who are probably 5 out of 10s at best and 30 lbs overweight. Then they get mad why every decent man swipes left on their profile.

NP. Eesh. Are you going to insult her makeup next? One of the ugliest parts of American men is how eager you all are to lob insults at women. Even the allegedly ultra masculine conservative American men of the “manosphere” behave the same way. Do you guys even understand that being a sassy little beech who can get in the last dig on a woman isn’t remotely masculine? Travel the world and see how the men of the cultures you envy command respect by maintaining their dignity while disagreeing with women. Your fitness for leadership is revealed by how you behave while upset.

it is VERY threatening to men, especially boomers or rednecks or provincial ones who got brought up to fit into certain boxes of like -what a 'real' man is, and told not to cry, and told not to express feelings - to think that a different kind of man can be attractive, even MORE attractive, to a woman.
I think most people - full stop - want to be with someone proactive who can take care of them a little bit, but crucially can also take care of themselves. I don't think anyone wants to be with someone who is literally incapable of getting stuff achieved. It's not a masculine or a feminine trait, it's moreso that humans want to be with someone who has executive functioning capabilities and a somewhat high iQ.

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Then fools like you do their bidding. Name call.

Fools like me name call, do we? Interesting. Glad to see you rising above that sort of thing.

Lol
There you go again. Just can’t stop arguing and deflecting. Glad you’re not married.

oh and by the way, the one person you think you're talking to is at least 3 people.
We just all think you are absolutely batsh*t and hilarious for conflating church with 'being a real man'.

And again!

I know it's making you happy to think that we are all one person, but I am here to tell you that factually we are not. You can not believe me, but it will remain true.