Conservative DCUM'ers: how far back do you want LGBTQ rights rolled back?

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Anonymous wrote:I am still waiting for evidence that conservatives are rolling back LGBTQ rights.

There are bills in most red states. Laws in many passed.

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Can’t we just go back to don’t ask, don’t tell? Seriously, what was wrong with that? Now we gotta tell everyone at the work place where we stick our penis and who we open our vaginas to. Does it really help the economy at all?

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Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious what the ultimate objective of the DeSantis wing is regarding LGBTQ people. Are you really a libertarian "I don't care what consenting adults do" as long as it isn't discussed in the school system? Or do you think that the LGBTQ lifestyle itself is detrimental to national identity? Are you in favor of abolishing the right to gay marriage? Or making homosexuality a crime? It does feel that something changed recently and this is the first Pride month since the late 1990's where corporations and local governments seem to be afraid to wave the rainbow flag.

Think this is a poor reading of things. Almost no one is against "the gays." Almost everyone accepts gay marriage, gay relationships, two mommies or two daddies, gay children, rainbow flags, tolerance, non-discrimition etc etc etc. That issue is settled

What people are bothered by is the "trans issue." Human beings have been around for 300,000 years. Gender fluidity is a very novel concept and the vast majority of people don't buy it. While gender dysmorphia has always existed, people are really uncomfortable being told their tomboy girl or their effeminate boy is not a real boy or girl. And they need to transition and take on a lifetime of medical intervention. Most parents don't think this is a healthy way of dealing with the turbulence of adolescence. They think that what it means to be a boy or girl should be very expansive. If you're not a Barbie or a Jock or you're attracted to people of the same gender, it shouldn't be an issue.

But there seems to be a lot of pressure in certain zip codes that if you don't conform to gender stereotypes there's something wrong with you. And now there's an entire industry that will swoop in and take advantage of it - for financial, ideological, or political reasons

That's what bothers people. It's not LGBQ. It's the T.

That's the same thing in different wrapping paper. I was there when the issue wasn't grown adults living in monogamous gay relationships, it was the CHILDREN. We can't expose the CHILDREN to gay marriage, because it will confuse them/influence them/damage them.

Now it's transgenderism. Which is a thing that exists and has existed through known history. Just like gay people. And somehow you didn't end up gay or trans. Trust your kids to find their way, too. Even if they (gasp!) see a person in a dress using the women's restroom who they think might have a Y chromosome.

Gen Z had the higher exposure to LGBT in public than earlier generation. Somehow they ended up more gay and trans.

So dear poster, if you hung out with gay people, you are saying they would make you gay? I have long hung out with gay people, I will never be gay. Sexuality doesn’t work that way. You are born that way, IMHO. If the chart is true, I would start looking at chemicals in our environment that affect embryos.

The chart is from Gallup polling. The census household pulse survy shows very similiar numbers.

I did not say hanging out with gay people make you gay. I said gen z had higher exposure to LGBT in public than earlier generation. Current society pushes LGBT as a positive, even if some people vocally disagree. Schools, government, and media all portray positively and attempt to use social pressure to say people who disagree are bad people.

Chemical hypothosis is interesting, however ignorant of the history. Across history, sexual identities and behaviours have always changed in line with the prevailing social attitudes of the time. To me this indicates flexibility of population to LGBT identification based on social pressure.

Gee, the longstanding and obvious answer is that social pressure forced gay people to pretend they were straight. To lie to people about being straight. To convince themselves they were straight. To never even try to have a gay relationship in the first place. To just think of themselves as straight people who are deviant or sinful. Come on!

It's not the pressure to be LGBTQ causing this. It's the reduction of penalties for doing so that makes it possible.

When people on the other side of this debate present arguments based on longstanding and obvious things, they are categorically shrugged off as a "tag line." We are going to need to see some receipts. We are told all this suppression results in suicide. Shouldn't there have been more suicide back then? We should see a chart showing steep declines in suicide, due to our sexual liberation. Show us the charts.

We can't survey closeted gay people and we can't track closeted gay suicide rates. Of course you know this.

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Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious what the ultimate objective of the DeSantis wing is regarding LGBTQ people. Are you really a libertarian "I don't care what consenting adults do" as long as it isn't discussed in the school system? Or do you think that the LGBTQ lifestyle itself is detrimental to national identity? Are you in favor of abolishing the right to gay marriage? Or making homosexuality a crime? It does feel that something changed recently and this is the first Pride month since the late 1990's where corporations and local governments seem to be afraid to wave the rainbow flag.

Think this is a poor reading of things. Almost no one is against "the gays." Almost everyone accepts gay marriage, gay relationships, two mommies or two daddies, gay children, rainbow flags, tolerance, non-discrimition etc etc etc. That issue is settled

What people are bothered by is the "trans issue." Human beings have been around for 300,000 years. Gender fluidity is a very novel concept and the vast majority of people don't buy it. While gender dysmorphia has always existed, people are really uncomfortable being told their tomboy girl or their effeminate boy is not a real boy or girl. And they need to transition and take on a lifetime of medical intervention. Most parents don't think this is a healthy way of dealing with the turbulence of adolescence. They think that what it means to be a boy or girl should be very expansive. If you're not a Barbie or a Jock or you're attracted to people of the same gender, it shouldn't be an issue.

But there seems to be a lot of pressure in certain zip codes that if you don't conform to gender stereotypes there's something wrong with you. And now there's an entire industry that will swoop in and take advantage of it - for financial, ideological, or political reasons

That's what bothers people. It's not LGBQ. It's the T.

That's the same thing in different wrapping paper. I was there when the issue wasn't grown adults living in monogamous gay relationships, it was the CHILDREN. We can't expose the CHILDREN to gay marriage, because it will confuse them/influence them/damage them.

Now it's transgenderism. Which is a thing that exists and has existed through known history. Just like gay people. And somehow you didn't end up gay or trans. Trust your kids to find their way, too. Even if they (gasp!) see a person in a dress using the women's restroom who they think might have a Y chromosome.

Gen Z had the higher exposure to LGBT in public than earlier generation. Somehow they ended up more gay and trans.

So dear poster, if you hung out with gay people, you are saying they would make you gay? I have long hung out with gay people, I will never be gay. Sexuality doesn’t work that way. You are born that way, IMHO. If the chart is true, I would start looking at chemicals in our environment that affect embryos.

The chart is from Gallup polling. The census household pulse survy shows very similiar numbers.

I did not say hanging out with gay people make you gay. I said gen z had higher exposure to LGBT in public than earlier generation. Current society pushes LGBT as a positive, even if some people vocally disagree. Schools, government, and media all portray positively and attempt to use social pressure to say people who disagree are bad people.

Chemical hypothosis is interesting, however ignorant of the history. Across history, sexual identities and behaviours have always changed in line with the prevailing social attitudes of the time. To me this indicates flexibility of population to LGBT identification based on social pressure.

Gee, the longstanding and obvious answer is that social pressure forced gay people to pretend they were straight. To lie to people about being straight. To convince themselves they were straight. To never even try to have a gay relationship in the first place. To just think of themselves as straight people who are deviant or sinful. Come on!

It's not the pressure to be LGBTQ causing this. It's the reduction of penalties for doing so that makes it possible.

When people on the other side of this debate present arguments based on longstanding and obvious things, they are categorically shrugged off as a "tag line." We are going to need to see some receipts. We are told all this suppression results in suicide. Shouldn't there have been more suicide back then? We should see a chart showing steep declines in suicide, due to our sexual liberation. Show us the charts.

We can't survey closeted gay people and we can't track closeted gay suicide rates. Of course you know this.

DP. We track suicide rates by age and sex.

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Anonymous wrote:Can’t we just go back to don’t ask, don’t tell? Seriously, what was wrong with that? Now we gotta tell everyone at the work place where we stick our penis and who we open our vaginas to. Does it really help the economy at all?

Nobody would have to say a word if there was a "don't discriminate, don't ridicule" policy.

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Anonymous wrote:As a gay man I'm well attuned to the histrionics surrounding LGBTQ as a term because the real issue isn't the LGB but the T and Q. Plenty of gay people are concerned about the excesses of TQ activism and, frankly, there's not much in common between being LGB and TQ. If I worry about anything, it is that the backlash against TQ activism may hurt LGB despite that we have little in common with TQ. Gays and Lesbians aren't asking for science to be redefined to allow people to "change" gender nor do we cause controversy by demanding access to traditional gender spaces of the opposite gender. Nor did we cause a ruckus with the weird pronoun demands nor push something that is biologically impossible, such as non binarism. Nor did we demand people start using terms like birthing parent instead of pregnant mother.

My advice to the trans and queen activists is to stop dragging gays and lesbians into your activism in order to provide you with legitimacy.

Well said. It's so annoying when someone raises a concern about, say, minors having puberty blockers, and then the left responds "you hate gay people." What?! The two things aren't related. You don't even have to hate or fear trans people to be concerned about a minors capacity to consent to life changing medical treatment.

It's not about minors anymore. Republicans are blocking it for adults too.

Which states have blocked adults from accessing transition care?

You don’t pay attention to your own party’s garbage policies? Florida has created obstacles for adult trans care, since blocked by a court I believe, but yes. They were on the road to blocking adults.

It’s not about the kids. It about the GOP’s arousal about trans people and using trans people as the new wedge issue. And you dummies are GOING for it.

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20% of people in Gen Z are not gay, lesbian, trans, etc. That is absolutely mass psychosis. When you tell kids from early age that being straight and white is basically the worst thing possible in the world because you’re a genocidal maniac and oppress people, of course they’re gonna look for a new identity to align with in order to be in an oppressed camp. Much better to apply to colleges and tick the box for trans on a college application than as a straight white male. You can ID as an oppressed group to curry bonus points in the ID oppression Olympics. It’s absurd. If 20% of the human race ID were actually gay or lesbian, the human population would be declining, yet here we are dealing with too many humans on Earth.

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Anonymous wrote:I am still waiting for evidence that conservatives are rolling back LGBTQ rights.

There are bills in most red states. Laws in many passed.

Yet you can't present any of them.

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How far back?

1.Mind your own business but don't flaunt sexual activity in front of children. That goes for heterosexual and homosexual activity.
2. No transition for children. Some kids think they are superheroes. We don't let them jump off tall buildings to see if they can fly.
3. Don't call people bigots because they think kids should not have surgery a la Dr. Mengele.

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Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious what the ultimate objective of the DeSantis wing is regarding LGBTQ people. Are you really a libertarian "I don't care what consenting adults do" as long as it isn't discussed in the school system? Or do you think that the LGBTQ lifestyle itself is detrimental to national identity? Are you in favor of abolishing the right to gay marriage? Or making homosexuality a crime? It does feel that something changed recently and this is the first Pride month since the late 1990's where corporations and local governments seem to be afraid to wave the rainbow flag.

Think this is a poor reading of things. Almost no one is against "the gays." Almost everyone accepts gay marriage, gay relationships, two mommies or two daddies, gay children, rainbow flags, tolerance, non-discrimition etc etc etc. That issue is settled

What people are bothered by is the "trans issue." Human beings have been around for 300,000 years. Gender fluidity is a very novel concept and the vast majority of people don't buy it. While gender dysmorphia has always existed, people are really uncomfortable being told their tomboy girl or their effeminate boy is not a real boy or girl. And they need to transition and take on a lifetime of medical intervention. Most parents don't think this is a healthy way of dealing with the turbulence of adolescence. They think that what it means to be a boy or girl should be very expansive. If you're not a Barbie or a Jock or you're attracted to people of the same gender, it shouldn't be an issue.

But there seems to be a lot of pressure in certain zip codes that if you don't conform to gender stereotypes there's something wrong with you. And now there's an entire industry that will swoop in and take advantage of it - for financial, ideological, or political reasons

That's what bothers people. It's not LGBQ. It's the T.

That's the same thing in different wrapping paper. I was there when the issue wasn't grown adults living in monogamous gay relationships, it was the CHILDREN. We can't expose the CHILDREN to gay marriage, because it will confuse them/influence them/damage them.

Now it's transgenderism. Which is a thing that exists and has existed through known history. Just like gay people. And somehow you didn't end up gay or trans. Trust your kids to find their way, too. Even if they (gasp!) see a person in a dress using the women's restroom who they think might have a Y chromosome.

Gen Z had the higher exposure to LGBT in public than earlier generation. Somehow they ended up more gay and trans.

So dear poster, if you hung out with gay people, you are saying they would make you gay? I have long hung out with gay people, I will never be gay. Sexuality doesn’t work that way. You are born that way, IMHO. If the chart is true, I would start looking at chemicals in our environment that affect embryos.

The chart is from Gallup polling. The census household pulse survy shows very similiar numbers.

I did not say hanging out with gay people make you gay. I said gen z had higher exposure to LGBT in public than earlier generation. Current society pushes LGBT as a positive, even if some people vocally disagree. Schools, government, and media all portray positively and attempt to use social pressure to say people who disagree are bad people.

Chemical hypothosis is interesting, however ignorant of the history. Across history, sexual identities and behaviours have always changed in line with the prevailing social attitudes of the time. To me this indicates flexibility of population to LGBT identification based on social pressure.

Gee, the longstanding and obvious answer is that social pressure forced gay people to pretend they were straight. To lie to people about being straight. To convince themselves they were straight. To never even try to have a gay relationship in the first place. To just think of themselves as straight people who are deviant or sinful. Come on!

It's not the pressure to be LGBTQ causing this. It's the reduction of penalties for doing so that makes it possible.

DP.

If gay people could historically convince themselves and lie to themselves that they were straight why is it so impossible to believe that today straight kids are internalizing social pressure to lie to themselves and convince themselves that they are T or Q?

If Fox News can use dog whistles to foment social movements; if magazines in the 90s and Abercrombie and Fitch in the early 00s could lead teenage girls to eating disorders, why is it so impossible to you that it could be happening now with T and Q identification?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am still waiting for evidence that conservatives are rolling back LGBTQ rights.

There are bills in most red states. Laws in many passed.

Yet you can't present any of them.

FL passed one that restricts gender affirming care from being provided by nurse practitioners even though 80% of the trans ppl in that state receive care from them. I have a trans friend that has had vaginoplasty and therefore no longer produces any testosterone in her body. Her provider told her that they cannot give her care any longer. Therefore she has no way of receiving hormones in her body.

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Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious what the ultimate objective of the DeSantis wing is regarding LGBTQ people. Are you really a libertarian "I don't care what consenting adults do" as long as it isn't discussed in the school system? Or do you think that the LGBTQ lifestyle itself is detrimental to national identity? Are you in favor of abolishing the right to gay marriage? Or making homosexuality a crime? It does feel that something changed recently and this is the first Pride month since the late 1990's where corporations and local governments seem to be afraid to wave the rainbow flag.

Think this is a poor reading of things. Almost no one is against "the gays." Almost everyone accepts gay marriage, gay relationships, two mommies or two daddies, gay children, rainbow flags, tolerance, non-discrimition etc etc etc. That issue is settled

What people are bothered by is the "trans issue." Human beings have been around for 300,000 years. Gender fluidity is a very novel concept and the vast majority of people don't buy it. While gender dysmorphia has always existed, people are really uncomfortable being told their tomboy girl or their effeminate boy is not a real boy or girl. And they need to transition and take on a lifetime of medical intervention. Most parents don't think this is a healthy way of dealing with the turbulence of adolescence. They think that what it means to be a boy or girl should be very expansive. If you're not a Barbie or a Jock or you're attracted to people of the same gender, it shouldn't be an issue.

But there seems to be a lot of pressure in certain zip codes that if you don't conform to gender stereotypes there's something wrong with you. And now there's an entire industry that will swoop in and take advantage of it - for financial, ideological, or political reasons

That's what bothers people. It's not LGBQ. It's the T.

That's the same thing in different wrapping paper. I was there when the issue wasn't grown adults living in monogamous gay relationships, it was the CHILDREN. We can't expose the CHILDREN to gay marriage, because it will confuse them/influence them/damage them.

Now it's transgenderism. Which is a thing that exists and has existed through known history. Just like gay people. And somehow you didn't end up gay or trans. Trust your kids to find their way, too. Even if they (gasp!) see a person in a dress using the women's restroom who they think might have a Y chromosome.

Gen Z had the higher exposure to LGBT in public than earlier generation. Somehow they ended up more gay and trans.

So dear poster, if you hung out with gay people, you are saying they would make you gay? I have long hung out with gay people, I will never be gay. Sexuality doesn’t work that way. You are born that way, IMHO. If the chart is true, I would start looking at chemicals in our environment that affect embryos.

The chart is from Gallup polling. The census household pulse survy shows very similiar numbers.

I did not say hanging out with gay people make you gay. I said gen z had higher exposure to LGBT in public than earlier generation. Current society pushes LGBT as a positive, even if some people vocally disagree. Schools, government, and media all portray positively and attempt to use social pressure to say people who disagree are bad people.

Chemical hypothosis is interesting, however ignorant of the history. Across history, sexual identities and behaviours have always changed in line with the prevailing social attitudes of the time. To me this indicates flexibility of population to LGBT identification based on social pressure.

Gee, the longstanding and obvious answer is that social pressure forced gay people to pretend they were straight. To lie to people about being straight. To convince themselves they were straight. To never even try to have a gay relationship in the first place. To just think of themselves as straight people who are deviant or sinful. Come on!

It's not the pressure to be LGBTQ causing this. It's the reduction of penalties for doing so that makes it possible.

DP.

If gay people could historically convince themselves and lie to themselves that they were straight why is it so impossible to believe that today straight kids are internalizing social pressure to lie to themselves and convince themselves that they are T or Q?

If Fox News can use dog whistles to foment social movements; if magazines in the 90s and Abercrombie and Fitch in the early 00s could lead teenage girls to eating disorders, why is it so impossible to you that it could be happening now with T and Q identification?

You know what's the saddest part about this to me? It's that encouraging people to pretend that they're not trans when they are will just lead to later in life transition. Then people will complain that these people shouldn't have been married and that they're destroying their families by transitioning at an older age.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I am still waiting for evidence that conservatives are rolling back LGBTQ rights.

There are bills in most red states. Laws in many passed.

Yet you can't present any of them.

FL passed one that restricts gender affirming care from being provided by nurse practitioners even though 80% of the trans ppl in that state receive care from them. I have a trans friend that has had vaginoplasty and therefore no longer produces any testosterone in her body. Her provider told her that they cannot give her care any longer. Therefore she has no way of receiving hormones in her body.

The bolded is absolutely not true. Pure propaganda.

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Anonymous wrote:Genuinely curious what the ultimate objective of the DeSantis wing is regarding LGBTQ people. Are you really a libertarian "I don't care what consenting adults do" as long as it isn't discussed in the school system? Or do you think that the LGBTQ lifestyle itself is detrimental to national identity? Are you in favor of abolishing the right to gay marriage? Or making homosexuality a crime? It does feel that something changed recently and this is the first Pride month since the late 1990's where corporations and local governments seem to be afraid to wave the rainbow flag.

Think this is a poor reading of things. Almost no one is against "the gays." Almost everyone accepts gay marriage, gay relationships, two mommies or two daddies, gay children, rainbow flags, tolerance, non-discrimition etc etc etc. That issue is settled

What people are bothered by is the "trans issue." Human beings have been around for 300,000 years. Gender fluidity is a very novel concept and the vast majority of people don't buy it. While gender dysmorphia has always existed, people are really uncomfortable being told their tomboy girl or their effeminate boy is not a real boy or girl. And they need to transition and take on a lifetime of medical intervention. Most parents don't think this is a healthy way of dealing with the turbulence of adolescence. They think that what it means to be a boy or girl should be very expansive. If you're not a Barbie or a Jock or you're attracted to people of the same gender, it shouldn't be an issue.

But there seems to be a lot of pressure in certain zip codes that if you don't conform to gender stereotypes there's something wrong with you. And now there's an entire industry that will swoop in and take advantage of it - for financial, ideological, or political reasons

That's what bothers people. It's not LGBQ. It's the T.

That's the same thing in different wrapping paper. I was there when the issue wasn't grown adults living in monogamous gay relationships, it was the CHILDREN. We can't expose the CHILDREN to gay marriage, because it will confuse them/influence them/damage them.

Now it's transgenderism. Which is a thing that exists and has existed through known history. Just like gay people. And somehow you didn't end up gay or trans. Trust your kids to find their way, too. Even if they (gasp!) see a person in a dress using the women's restroom who they think might have a Y chromosome.

Gen Z had the higher exposure to LGBT in public than earlier generation. Somehow they ended up more gay and trans.

So dear poster, if you hung out with gay people, you are saying they would make you gay? I have long hung out with gay people, I will never be gay. Sexuality doesn’t work that way. You are born that way, IMHO. If the chart is true, I would start looking at chemicals in our environment that affect embryos.

The chart is from Gallup polling. The census household pulse survy shows very similiar numbers.

I did not say hanging out with gay people make you gay. I said gen z had higher exposure to LGBT in public than earlier generation. Current society pushes LGBT as a positive, even if some people vocally disagree. Schools, government, and media all portray positively and attempt to use social pressure to say people who disagree are bad people.

Chemical hypothosis is interesting, however ignorant of the history. Across history, sexual identities and behaviours have always changed in line with the prevailing social attitudes of the time. To me this indicates flexibility of population to LGBT identification based on social pressure.

Gee, the longstanding and obvious answer is that social pressure forced gay people to pretend they were straight. To lie to people about being straight. To convince themselves they were straight. To never even try to have a gay relationship in the first place. To just think of themselves as straight people who are deviant or sinful. Come on!

It's not the pressure to be LGBTQ causing this. It's the reduction of penalties for doing so that makes it possible.

DP.

If gay people could historically convince themselves and lie to themselves that they were straight why is it so impossible to believe that today straight kids are internalizing social pressure to lie to themselves and convince themselves that they are T or Q?

If Fox News can use dog whistles to foment social movements; if magazines in the 90s and Abercrombie and Fitch in the early 00s could lead teenage girls to eating disorders, why is it so impossible to you that it could be happening now with T and Q identification?

You know what's the saddest part about this to me? It's that encouraging people to pretend that they're not trans when they are will just lead to later in life transition. Then people will complain that these people shouldn't have been married and that they're destroying their families by transitioning at an older age.

I did have to laugh at "pretend that they're not trans" when, you know, being trans is all about pretending to be something you aren't. Because everyone is biologically male or female. There is no biological basis for thinking you can change gender or gender is on a spectrum. A transwoman will never have the period or menopause or conceive, which are all essential aspects of being female. A transman will never have the penis or understand how the male sexuality dominates the male existence, including the experience of a stiffening organ expressing sexual desire. The closest you get to the concept of changing gender is religious beliefs. It's the realm of mythological gods and spirits.

It's also why there is a distinct difference between gays and lesbians and trans. Gays and lesbians aren't in denial of their biological bodies, if anything they fully embrace it as part of their sexuality.

I don't mind if some people want to live as the opposite gender because they feel more comfortable, even if I've noticed it's largely based on attractions to cliches rather than anything hardwired. But jumping from that to declaring trans are "real" men and women of the gender they identify with is patently silly.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I am still waiting for evidence that conservatives are rolling back LGBTQ rights.

There are bills in most red states. Laws in many passed.

Yet you can't present any of them.

FL passed one that restricts gender affirming care from being provided by nurse practitioners even though 80% of the trans ppl in that state receive care from them. I have a trans friend that has had vaginoplasty and therefore no longer produces any testosterone in her body. Her provider told her that they cannot give her care any longer. Therefore she has no way of receiving hormones in her body.

FL blocked gender affirming care *for youth*. Way to leave out that critical aspect.

What I simply can not understand nor will I ever understand is the Democrat logic for crime stating that we need to be lenient on young criminals because youth have terrible decision making skills since the human adult brain does not fully develop until our 20s, yet here Democrats say youth below 18 have perfectly capable decision making skills regarding their sexuality and for making healthcare decisions that could permanently alter or harm their bodies.

You can’t have it both ways. Either minors have mature enough brains to allow them to pick sexuality and make informed decisions for crime and should be punished, or they can’t make mature, well informed decisions. Which is it? The hypocrisy is astounding. You can’t make this stuff up:

https://katv.com/news/nation-world/maryland-bill-would-prevent-anyone-under-25-from-being-charged-with-felony-murder-democratic-delegate-charlotte-cruchfield-justice-reform-youth-accountability-and-safety-act