Boundary study- how will Whitman be impacted (s/o)

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So you then suggest bussing my kids to the school that you claim isn’t good enough for your kids? That seems fair. Even though I’m the one paying way more in property and local taxes (according to you since you say you can’t afford to live where I do). I have never been opposed to trying to make the lower performing schools Better. Whether that’s more money budgeted to them or more experienced principals placed in them. But the fact of the matter is that bussing kids from down south up north will never ever work because I will move or send my kids to private before I send them across the county. And as other posters have said, this isn’t an option most people want regardless of where they live.

"Across the county" from B-CC to Einstein?

If you want to move or send your kids to private school, that's ok, please do. We will manage without you.

The area in South Kensington assigned to BCC seems a lot closer to Einstein so this would reduce transportation costs and allow their kids to be attend their neighborhood school.

South Kensington is 2.1 miles from Einstein and 2.5 miles from BCC. Since they built the new BCC cluster middle school within this neighborhood not too long ago, it seems likely it will remain zoned to BCC.

Nah, just reassign that MS to Einstein or even use a split-articulation model. We shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place. We need boundaries that reinforce this idea of neighborhood schools. Most people are for this, but this is an exception where a small group of privileged parents feel their too good for their neighborhood.

Why does the idea of neighborhood schools need to be reinforced?

As the PP said - Silver Creek MS is 2.0 miles on foot from Einstein HS, and 2.8 miles on foot from B-CC. Which school is the "neighborhood" school, and what is your reasoning?

If you think "we shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place," I assume you're pushing for kids to take transit (RideOn, Metro, Metrobus, Purple Line once it opens) instead of a school bus, where transit is available?

While Silver Creek may be 2.0 miles to Einstein, many many SCMS students do not live right by Silver Creek and in fact live completely within walking distance to BCC. The school itself is on the edge of the boundary, and there are even houses walkable to Silver Creek that are zoned for WJ and its feeder MS. I’d also be really reluctant to do split articulation with this area given the busing and moving around of kids created by the RHES/NCC/CCES for all of ES. At some point, it’s too many articulations/permutations to be reasonable.

split-articulation solved

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So you then suggest bussing my kids to the school that you claim isn’t good enough for your kids? That seems fair. Even though I’m the one paying way more in property and local taxes (according to you since you say you can’t afford to live where I do). I have never been opposed to trying to make the lower performing schools Better. Whether that’s more money budgeted to them or more experienced principals placed in them. But the fact of the matter is that bussing kids from down south up north will never ever work because I will move or send my kids to private before I send them across the county. And as other posters have said, this isn’t an option most people want regardless of where they live.

"Across the county" from B-CC to Einstein?

If you want to move or send your kids to private school, that's ok, please do. We will manage without you.

The area in South Kensington assigned to BCC seems a lot closer to Einstein so this would reduce transportation costs and allow their kids to be attend their neighborhood school.

South Kensington is 2.1 miles from Einstein and 2.5 miles from BCC. Since they built the new BCC cluster middle school within this neighborhood not too long ago, it seems likely it will remain zoned to BCC.

Nah, just reassign that MS to Einstein or even use a split-articulation model. We shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place. We need boundaries that reinforce this idea of neighborhood schools. Most people are for this, but this is an exception where a small group of privileged parents feel their too good for their neighborhood.

Why does the idea of neighborhood schools need to be reinforced?

As the PP said - Silver Creek MS is 2.0 miles on foot from Einstein HS, and 2.8 miles on foot from B-CC. Which school is the "neighborhood" school, and what is your reasoning?

If you think "we shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place," I assume you're pushing for kids to take transit (RideOn, Metro, Metrobus, Purple Line once it opens) instead of a school bus, where transit is available?

While Silver Creek may be 2.0 miles to Einstein, many many SCMS students do not live right by Silver Creek and in fact live completely within walking distance to BCC. The school itself is on the edge of the boundary, and there are even houses walkable to Silver Creek that are zoned for WJ and its feeder MS. I’d also be really reluctant to do split articulation with this area given the busing and moving around of kids created by the RHES/NCC/CCES for all of ES. At some point, it’s too many articulations/permutations to be reasonable.

This is a really good point, and the PTAs and cluster reps should emphasize this when they give their comments.

[Anonymous]

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So you then suggest bussing my kids to the school that you claim isn’t good enough for your kids? That seems fair. Even though I’m the one paying way more in property and local taxes (according to you since you say you can’t afford to live where I do). I have never been opposed to trying to make the lower performing schools Better. Whether that’s more money budgeted to them or more experienced principals placed in them. But the fact of the matter is that bussing kids from down south up north will never ever work because I will move or send my kids to private before I send them across the county. And as other posters have said, this isn’t an option most people want regardless of where they live.

"Across the county" from B-CC to Einstein?

If you want to move or send your kids to private school, that's ok, please do. We will manage without you.

The area in South Kensington assigned to BCC seems a lot closer to Einstein so this would reduce transportation costs and allow their kids to be attend their neighborhood school.

South Kensington is 2.1 miles from Einstein and 2.5 miles from BCC. Since they built the new BCC cluster middle school within this neighborhood not too long ago, it seems likely it will remain zoned to BCC.

Nah, just reassign that MS to Einstein or even use a split-articulation model. We shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place. We need boundaries that reinforce this idea of neighborhood schools. Most people are for this, but this is an exception where a small group of privileged parents feel their too good for their neighborhood.

Why does the idea of neighborhood schools need to be reinforced?

As the PP said - Silver Creek MS is 2.0 miles on foot from Einstein HS, and 2.8 miles on foot from B-CC. Which school is the "neighborhood" school, and what is your reasoning?

If you think "we shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place," I assume you're pushing for kids to take transit (RideOn, Metro, Metrobus, Purple Line once it opens) instead of a school bus, where transit is available?

While Silver Creek may be 2.0 miles to Einstein, many many SCMS students do not live right by Silver Creek and in fact live completely within walking distance to BCC. The school itself is on the edge of the boundary, and there are even houses walkable to Silver Creek that are zoned for WJ and its feeder MS. I’d also be really reluctant to do split articulation with this area given the busing and moving around of kids created by the RHES/NCC/CCES for all of ES. At some point, it’s too many articulations/permutations to be reasonable.

Walking distance to BCC is not the same as walk zone for BCC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So you then suggest bussing my kids to the school that you claim isn’t good enough for your kids? That seems fair. Even though I’m the one paying way more in property and local taxes (according to you since you say you can’t afford to live where I do). I have never been opposed to trying to make the lower performing schools Better. Whether that’s more money budgeted to them or more experienced principals placed in them. But the fact of the matter is that bussing kids from down south up north will never ever work because I will move or send my kids to private before I send them across the county. And as other posters have said, this isn’t an option most people want regardless of where they live.

"Across the county" from B-CC to Einstein?

If you want to move or send your kids to private school, that's ok, please do. We will manage without you.

The area in South Kensington assigned to BCC seems a lot closer to Einstein so this would reduce transportation costs and allow their kids to be attend their neighborhood school.

South Kensington is 2.1 miles from Einstein and 2.5 miles from BCC. Since they built the new BCC cluster middle school within this neighborhood not too long ago, it seems likely it will remain zoned to BCC.

Nah, just reassign that MS to Einstein or even use a split-articulation model. We shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place. We need boundaries that reinforce this idea of neighborhood schools. Most people are for this, but this is an exception where a small group of privileged parents feel their too good for their neighborhood.

Why does the idea of neighborhood schools need to be reinforced?

As the PP said - Silver Creek MS is 2.0 miles on foot from Einstein HS, and 2.8 miles on foot from B-CC. Which school is the "neighborhood" school, and what is your reasoning?

If you think "we shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place," I assume you're pushing for kids to take transit (RideOn, Metro, Metrobus, Purple Line once it opens) instead of a school bus, where transit is available?

While Silver Creek may be 2.0 miles to Einstein, many many SCMS students do not live right by Silver Creek and in fact live completely within walking distance to BCC. The school itself is on the edge of the boundary, and there are even houses walkable to Silver Creek that are zoned for WJ and its feeder MS. I’d also be really reluctant to do split articulation with this area given the busing and moving around of kids created by the RHES/NCC/CCES for all of ES. At some point, it’s too many articulations/permutations to be reasonable.

Walking distance to BCC is not the same as walk zone for BCC.

There are still many SCMS students who live within the walk zone for BCC, i.e. they do not get bus service to BCC from their neighborhood.

[Anonymous]

So back to the title of the thread, which is the impact on Whitman specifically . If Whitman is under capacity what are the chances they just leave those boundaries as is? If anything, move the kids from Carderock out to Churchill which is MUCH closer. It makes no sense to talk about split articulating Bradley hills or burning tree kids when Whitman’s numbers are not at all an issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So back to the title of the thread, which is the impact on Whitman specifically . If Whitman is under capacity what are the chances they just leave those boundaries as is? If anything, move the kids from Carderock out to Churchill which is MUCH closer. It makes no sense to talk about split articulating Bradley hills or burning tree kids when Whitman’s numbers are not at all an issue.

Churchill is out of scope for this study.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So back to the title of the thread, which is the impact on Whitman specifically . If Whitman is under capacity what are the chances they just leave those boundaries as is? If anything, move the kids from Carderock out to Churchill which is MUCH closer. It makes no sense to talk about split articulating Bradley hills or burning tree kids when Whitman’s numbers are not at all an issue.

Whitman is 4 miles from Carderock; Churchill is 6 miles.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So back to the title of the thread, which is the impact on Whitman specifically . If Whitman is under capacity what are the chances they just leave those boundaries as is? If anything, move the kids from Carderock out to Churchill which is MUCH closer. It makes no sense to talk about split articulating Bradley hills or burning tree kids when Whitman’s numbers are not at all an issue.

From Congressional Parkway and River Road, which is the part of Carderock Springs ES that is closest to Churchill HS and farthest from Whitman HS, it's 4.4 miles by car to Churchill and 4.8 miles to Whitman.

So no, even where Churchill is closer, it is only a little bit closer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So back to the title of the thread, which is the impact on Whitman specifically . If Whitman is under capacity what are the chances they just leave those boundaries as is? If anything, move the kids from Carderock out to Churchill which is MUCH closer. It makes no sense to talk about split articulating Bradley hills or burning tree kids when Whitman’s numbers are not at all an issue.

It's not likely they'll leave boundaries as is, even if Whitman itself isn't projected to become overcrowded. For example, they may need to shift some people from Whitman to WJ and from BCC to Whitman to make room to send more people from Einstein to BCC.

[Anonymous]

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