Boundary study- how will Whitman be impacted (s/o)

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So you then suggest bussing my kids to the school that you claim isn’t good enough for your kids? That seems fair. Even though I’m the one paying way more in property and local taxes (according to you since you say you can’t afford to live where I do). I have never been opposed to trying to make the lower performing schools Better. Whether that’s more money budgeted to them or more experienced principals placed in them. But the fact of the matter is that bussing kids from down south up north will never ever work because I will move or send my kids to private before I send them across the county. And as other posters have said, this isn’t an option most people want regardless of where they live.

"Across the county" from B-CC to Einstein?

If you want to move or send your kids to private school, that's ok, please do. We will manage without you.

The area in South Kensington assigned to BCC seems a lot closer to Einstein so this would reduce transportation costs and allow their kids to be attend their neighborhood school.

South Kensington is 2.1 miles from Einstein and 2.5 miles from BCC. Since they built the new BCC cluster middle school within this neighborhood not too long ago, it seems likely it will remain zoned to BCC.

Nah, just reassign that MS to Einstein or even use a split-articulation model. We shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place. We need boundaries that reinforce this idea of neighborhood schools. Most people are for this, but this is an exception where a small group of privileged parents feel their too good for their neighborhood.

Why does the idea of neighborhood schools need to be reinforced?

As the PP said - Silver Creek MS is 2.0 miles on foot from Einstein HS, and 2.8 miles on foot from B-CC. Which school is the "neighborhood" school, and what is your reasoning?

If you think "we shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place," I assume you're pushing for kids to take transit (RideOn, Metro, Metrobus, Purple Line once it opens) instead of a school bus, where transit is available?

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So you then suggest bussing my kids to the school that you claim isn’t good enough for your kids? That seems fair. Even though I’m the one paying way more in property and local taxes (according to you since you say you can’t afford to live where I do). I have never been opposed to trying to make the lower performing schools Better. Whether that’s more money budgeted to them or more experienced principals placed in them. But the fact of the matter is that bussing kids from down south up north will never ever work because I will move or send my kids to private before I send them across the county. And as other posters have said, this isn’t an option most people want regardless of where they live.

"Across the county" from B-CC to Einstein?

If you want to move or send your kids to private school, that's ok, please do. We will manage without you.

The area in South Kensington assigned to BCC seems a lot closer to Einstein so this would reduce transportation costs and allow their kids to be attend their neighborhood school.

South Kensington is 2.1 miles from Einstein and 2.5 miles from BCC. Since they built the new BCC cluster middle school within this neighborhood not too long ago, it seems likely it will remain zoned to BCC.

Nah, just reassign that MS to Einstein or even use a split-articulation model. We shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place. We need boundaries that reinforce this idea of neighborhood schools. Most people are for this, but this is an exception where a small group of privileged parents feel their too good for their neighborhood.

If there’s split articulation at the brand new Silver Creek MS, then the Down County Consortium (DCC) may also have to be reevaluated. Should BCC join the consortium with its unique hybrid IB/AP offerings to set it apart from the other DCC high schools? Can BCC’s brand new addition handle additional students from the DCC? All these questions need to be thought out.

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So you then suggest bussing my kids to the school that you claim isn’t good enough for your kids? That seems fair. Even though I’m the one paying way more in property and local taxes (according to you since you say you can’t afford to live where I do). I have never been opposed to trying to make the lower performing schools Better. Whether that’s more money budgeted to them or more experienced principals placed in them. But the fact of the matter is that bussing kids from down south up north will never ever work because I will move or send my kids to private before I send them across the county. And as other posters have said, this isn’t an option most people want regardless of where they live.

"Across the county" from B-CC to Einstein?

If you want to move or send your kids to private school, that's ok, please do. We will manage without you.

The area in South Kensington assigned to BCC seems a lot closer to Einstein so this would reduce transportation costs and allow their kids to be attend their neighborhood school.

South Kensington is 2.1 miles from Einstein and 2.5 miles from BCC. Since they built the new BCC cluster middle school within this neighborhood not too long ago, it seems likely it will remain zoned to BCC.

Nah, just reassign that MS to Einstein or even use a split-articulation model. We shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place. We need boundaries that reinforce this idea of neighborhood schools. Most people are for this, but this is an exception where a small group of privileged parents feel their too good for their neighborhood.

If there’s split articulation at the brand new Silver Creek MS, then the Down County Consortium (DCC) may also have to be reevaluated. Should BCC join the consortium with its unique hybrid IB/AP offerings to set it apart from the other DCC high schools? Can BCC’s brand new addition handle additional students from the DCC? All these questions need to be thought out.

*opened in 2017

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Anonymous wrote:Is it possible that some current Whitman students could get reassigned to Woodward?

Yes.

Targeted maybe. I doubt current students. For a 4 year school, I doubt they'd disrupt anyone's schooling. We were grandfathered at our ES for a year a COSA'd the rest.

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So you then suggest bussing my kids to the school that you claim isn’t good enough for your kids? That seems fair. Even though I’m the one paying way more in property and local taxes (according to you since you say you can’t afford to live where I do). I have never been opposed to trying to make the lower performing schools Better. Whether that’s more money budgeted to them or more experienced principals placed in them. But the fact of the matter is that bussing kids from down south up north will never ever work because I will move or send my kids to private before I send them across the county. And as other posters have said, this isn’t an option most people want regardless of where they live.

"Across the county" from B-CC to Einstein?

If you want to move or send your kids to private school, that's ok, please do. We will manage without you.

The area in South Kensington assigned to BCC seems a lot closer to Einstein so this would reduce transportation costs and allow their kids to be attend their neighborhood school.

South Kensington is 2.1 miles from Einstein and 2.5 miles from BCC. Since they built the new BCC cluster middle school within this neighborhood not too long ago, it seems likely it will remain zoned to BCC.

Nah, just reassign that MS to Einstein or even use a split-articulation model. We shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place. We need boundaries that reinforce this idea of neighborhood schools. Most people are for this, but this is an exception where a small group of privileged parents feel their too good for their neighborhood.

If there’s split articulation at the brand new Silver Creek MS, then the Down County Consortium (DCC) may also have to be reevaluated. Should BCC join the consortium with its unique hybrid IB/AP offerings to set it apart from the other DCC high schools? Can BCC’s brand new addition handle additional students from the DCC? All these questions need to be thought out.

How are the offerings different from Einstein’s?

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So you then suggest bussing my kids to the school that you claim isn’t good enough for your kids? That seems fair. Even though I’m the one paying way more in property and local taxes (according to you since you say you can’t afford to live where I do). I have never been opposed to trying to make the lower performing schools Better. Whether that’s more money budgeted to them or more experienced principals placed in them. But the fact of the matter is that bussing kids from down south up north will never ever work because I will move or send my kids to private before I send them across the county. And as other posters have said, this isn’t an option most people want regardless of where they live.

"Across the county" from B-CC to Einstein?

If you want to move or send your kids to private school, that's ok, please do. We will manage without you.

The area in South Kensington assigned to BCC seems a lot closer to Einstein so this would reduce transportation costs and allow their kids to be attend their neighborhood school.

South Kensington is 2.1 miles from Einstein and 2.5 miles from BCC. Since they built the new BCC cluster middle school within this neighborhood not too long ago, it seems likely it will remain zoned to BCC.

Nah, just reassign that MS to Einstein or even use a split-articulation model. We shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place. We need boundaries that reinforce this idea of neighborhood schools. Most people are for this, but this is an exception where a small group of privileged parents feel their too good for their neighborhood.

If there’s split articulation at the brand new Silver Creek MS, then the Down County Consortium (DCC) may also have to be reevaluated. Should BCC join the consortium with its unique hybrid IB/AP offerings to set it apart from the other DCC high schools? Can BCC’s brand new addition handle additional students from the DCC? All these questions need to be thought out.

How are the offerings different from Einstein’s?

BCC has a unique hybrid AP/IB academic model that sets it apart from the pack. It also has a unique open campus period where clubs can meet, or when students can catch up on work, or where students leave campus to go home or grab lunch in downtown Bethesda, or take a mid-day nap, walk, etc.

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So you then suggest bussing my kids to the school that you claim isn’t good enough for your kids? That seems fair. Even though I’m the one paying way more in property and local taxes (according to you since you say you can’t afford to live where I do). I have never been opposed to trying to make the lower performing schools Better. Whether that’s more money budgeted to them or more experienced principals placed in them. But the fact of the matter is that bussing kids from down south up north will never ever work because I will move or send my kids to private before I send them across the county. And as other posters have said, this isn’t an option most people want regardless of where they live.

"Across the county" from B-CC to Einstein?

If you want to move or send your kids to private school, that's ok, please do. We will manage without you.

The area in South Kensington assigned to BCC seems a lot closer to Einstein so this would reduce transportation costs and allow their kids to be attend their neighborhood school.

South Kensington is 2.1 miles from Einstein and 2.5 miles from BCC. Since they built the new BCC cluster middle school within this neighborhood not too long ago, it seems likely it will remain zoned to BCC.

Nah, just reassign that MS to Einstein or even use a split-articulation model. We shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place. We need boundaries that reinforce this idea of neighborhood schools. Most people are for this, but this is an exception where a small group of privileged parents feel their too good for their neighborhood.

If there’s split articulation at the brand new Silver Creek MS, then the Down County Consortium (DCC) may also have to be reevaluated. Should BCC join the consortium with its unique hybrid IB/AP offerings to set it apart from the other DCC high schools? Can BCC’s brand new addition handle additional students from the DCC? All these questions need to be thought out.

How are the offerings different from Einstein’s?

BCC has a unique hybrid AP/IB academic model that sets it apart from the pack. It also has a unique open campus period where clubs can meet, or when students can catch up on work, or where students leave campus to go home or grab lunch in downtown Bethesda, or take a mid-day nap, walk, etc.

Einstein also has AP/IB. I don't see how BCC's model is "unique."

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So you then suggest bussing my kids to the school that you claim isn’t good enough for your kids? That seems fair. Even though I’m the one paying way more in property and local taxes (according to you since you say you can’t afford to live where I do). I have never been opposed to trying to make the lower performing schools Better. Whether that’s more money budgeted to them or more experienced principals placed in them. But the fact of the matter is that bussing kids from down south up north will never ever work because I will move or send my kids to private before I send them across the county. And as other posters have said, this isn’t an option most people want regardless of where they live.

"Across the county" from B-CC to Einstein?

If you want to move or send your kids to private school, that's ok, please do. We will manage without you.

The area in South Kensington assigned to BCC seems a lot closer to Einstein so this would reduce transportation costs and allow their kids to be attend their neighborhood school.

South Kensington is 2.1 miles from Einstein and 2.5 miles from BCC. Since they built the new BCC cluster middle school within this neighborhood not too long ago, it seems likely it will remain zoned to BCC.

Nah, just reassign that MS to Einstein or even use a split-articulation model. We shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place. We need boundaries that reinforce this idea of neighborhood schools. Most people are for this, but this is an exception where a small group of privileged parents feel their too good for their neighborhood.

If there’s split articulation at the brand new Silver Creek MS, then the Down County Consortium (DCC) may also have to be reevaluated. Should BCC join the consortium with its unique hybrid IB/AP offerings to set it apart from the other DCC high schools? Can BCC’s brand new addition handle additional students from the DCC? All these questions need to be thought out.

How are the offerings different from Einstein’s?

BCC has a unique hybrid AP/IB academic model that sets it apart from the pack. It also has a unique open campus period where clubs can meet, or when students can catch up on work, or where students leave campus to go home or grab lunch in downtown Bethesda, or take a mid-day nap, walk, etc.

Einstein also has AP/IB. I don't see how BCC's model is "unique."

Doesn't every IB school also have APs?

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So you then suggest bussing my kids to the school that you claim isn’t good enough for your kids? That seems fair. Even though I’m the one paying way more in property and local taxes (according to you since you say you can’t afford to live where I do). I have never been opposed to trying to make the lower performing schools Better. Whether that’s more money budgeted to them or more experienced principals placed in them. But the fact of the matter is that bussing kids from down south up north will never ever work because I will move or send my kids to private before I send them across the county. And as other posters have said, this isn’t an option most people want regardless of where they live.

"Across the county" from B-CC to Einstein?

If you want to move or send your kids to private school, that's ok, please do. We will manage without you.

The area in South Kensington assigned to BCC seems a lot closer to Einstein so this would reduce transportation costs and allow their kids to be attend their neighborhood school.

South Kensington is 2.1 miles from Einstein and 2.5 miles from BCC. Since they built the new BCC cluster middle school within this neighborhood not too long ago, it seems likely it will remain zoned to BCC.

Nah, just reassign that MS to Einstein or even use a split-articulation model. We shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place. We need boundaries that reinforce this idea of neighborhood schools. Most people are for this, but this is an exception where a small group of privileged parents feel their too good for their neighborhood.

If there’s split articulation at the brand new Silver Creek MS, then the Down County Consortium (DCC) may also have to be reevaluated. Should BCC join the consortium with its unique hybrid IB/AP offerings to set it apart from the other DCC high schools? Can BCC’s brand new addition handle additional students from the DCC? All these questions need to be thought out.

How are the offerings different from Einstein’s?

BCC has a unique hybrid AP/IB academic model that sets it apart from the pack. It also has a unique open campus period where clubs can meet, or when students can catch up on work, or where students leave campus to go home or grab lunch in downtown Bethesda, or take a mid-day nap, walk, etc.

Einstein also has AP/IB. I don't see how BCC's model is "unique."

Doesn't every IB school also have APs?

Then if BCC were to join the down county consortium as part of the boundary process, it would have to come up with a unique academic focus.

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BCC has a unique hybrid AP/IB academic model that sets it apart from the pack. It also has a unique open campus period where clubs can meet, or when students can catch up on work, or where students leave campus to go home or grab lunch in downtown Bethesda, or take a mid-day nap, walk, etc.

What's unique about IB at BCC? Einstein and Kennedy both offer IB (and AP classes) and are in the DCC.

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/specialprograms/high/ib

BCC's open campus at lunch is also not unique in MCPS, although I don't know whether there are any high schools in the DCC that still officially have open campus at lunch.

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So you then suggest bussing my kids to the school that you claim isn’t good enough for your kids? That seems fair. Even though I’m the one paying way more in property and local taxes (according to you since you say you can’t afford to live where I do). I have never been opposed to trying to make the lower performing schools Better. Whether that’s more money budgeted to them or more experienced principals placed in them. But the fact of the matter is that bussing kids from down south up north will never ever work because I will move or send my kids to private before I send them across the county. And as other posters have said, this isn’t an option most people want regardless of where they live.

"Across the county" from B-CC to Einstein?

If you want to move or send your kids to private school, that's ok, please do. We will manage without you.

The area in South Kensington assigned to BCC seems a lot closer to Einstein so this would reduce transportation costs and allow their kids to be attend their neighborhood school.

South Kensington is 2.1 miles from Einstein and 2.5 miles from BCC. Since they built the new BCC cluster middle school within this neighborhood not too long ago, it seems likely it will remain zoned to BCC.

Nah, just reassign that MS to Einstein or even use a split-articulation model. We shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place. We need boundaries that reinforce this idea of neighborhood schools. Most people are for this, but this is an exception where a small group of privileged parents feel their too good for their neighborhood.

Just look at the distances, these kids have to be bussed regardless. Are you really saying that the extra 1/2 mile it takes to get to BCC as opposed to Einstein is bussing students all over the county? As everyone is aware the boundaries involving Kensington don’t make logical sense, but the South Kensington boundary is the least problematic because those kids are being bussed either way. The kids who are being bussed to WJ that could be walkers to Einstein is a different, and more legitimate, issue.

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BCC has a unique hybrid AP/IB academic model that sets it apart from the pack. It also has a unique open campus period where clubs can meet, or when students can catch up on work, or where students leave campus to go home or grab lunch in downtown Bethesda, or take a mid-day nap, walk, etc.

What's unique about IB at BCC? Einstein and Kennedy both offer IB (and AP classes) and are in the DCC.

https://www2.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/curriculum/specialprograms/high/ib

BCC's open campus at lunch is also not unique in MCPS, although I don't know whether there are any high schools in the DCC that still officially have open campus at lunch.

Montgomery Blair used to have open campus lunch but I think it’s been closed campus since the move to Four Corners. I could be wrong though. BCC currently utilizes open campus for clubs and other academic or extracurricular activities also. So it’s not just kids walking to the fast food joints nearby.

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So you then suggest bussing my kids to the school that you claim isn’t good enough for your kids? That seems fair. Even though I’m the one paying way more in property and local taxes (according to you since you say you can’t afford to live where I do). I have never been opposed to trying to make the lower performing schools Better. Whether that’s more money budgeted to them or more experienced principals placed in them. But the fact of the matter is that bussing kids from down south up north will never ever work because I will move or send my kids to private before I send them across the county. And as other posters have said, this isn’t an option most people want regardless of where they live.

"Across the county" from B-CC to Einstein?

If you want to move or send your kids to private school, that's ok, please do. We will manage without you.

The area in South Kensington assigned to BCC seems a lot closer to Einstein so this would reduce transportation costs and allow their kids to be attend their neighborhood school.

South Kensington is 2.1 miles from Einstein and 2.5 miles from BCC. Since they built the new BCC cluster middle school within this neighborhood not too long ago, it seems likely it will remain zoned to BCC.

Nah, just reassign that MS to Einstein or even use a split-articulation model. We shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place. We need boundaries that reinforce this idea of neighborhood schools. Most people are for this, but this is an exception where a small group of privileged parents feel their too good for their neighborhood.

Just look at the distances, these kids have to be bussed regardless. Are you really saying that the extra 1/2 mile it takes to get to BCC as opposed to Einstein is bussing students all over the county? As everyone is aware the boundaries involving Kensington don’t make logical sense, but the South Kensington boundary is the least problematic because those kids are being bussed either way. The kids who are being bussed to WJ that could be walkers to Einstein is a different, and more legitimate, issue.

DP, I think people think of the Beltway and Rock Creek as these huge barriers, like things on one side of the Beltway or Rock Creek are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay oveeeer theeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere from things on the other side, in a whole different part of the world.

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So you then suggest bussing my kids to the school that you claim isn’t good enough for your kids? That seems fair. Even though I’m the one paying way more in property and local taxes (according to you since you say you can’t afford to live where I do). I have never been opposed to trying to make the lower performing schools Better. Whether that’s more money budgeted to them or more experienced principals placed in them. But the fact of the matter is that bussing kids from down south up north will never ever work because I will move or send my kids to private before I send them across the county. And as other posters have said, this isn’t an option most people want regardless of where they live.

"Across the county" from B-CC to Einstein?

If you want to move or send your kids to private school, that's ok, please do. We will manage without you.

The area in South Kensington assigned to BCC seems a lot closer to Einstein so this would reduce transportation costs and allow their kids to be attend their neighborhood school.

South Kensington is 2.1 miles from Einstein and 2.5 miles from BCC. Since they built the new BCC cluster middle school within this neighborhood not too long ago, it seems likely it will remain zoned to BCC.

Nah, just reassign that MS to Einstein or even use a split-articulation model. We shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place. We need boundaries that reinforce this idea of neighborhood schools. Most people are for this, but this is an exception where a small group of privileged parents feel their too good for their neighborhood.

Why does the idea of neighborhood schools need to be reinforced?

As the PP said - Silver Creek MS is 2.0 miles on foot from Einstein HS, and 2.8 miles on foot from B-CC. Which school is the "neighborhood" school, and what is your reasoning?

If you think "we shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place," I assume you're pushing for kids to take transit (RideOn, Metro, Metrobus, Purple Line once it opens) instead of a school bus, where transit is available?

While Silver Creek may be 2.0 miles to Einstein, many many SCMS students do not live right by Silver Creek and in fact live completely within walking distance to BCC. The school itself is on the edge of the boundary, and there are even houses walkable to Silver Creek that are zoned for WJ and its feeder MS. I’d also be really reluctant to do split articulation with this area given the busing and moving around of kids created by the RHES/NCC/CCES for all of ES. At some point, it’s too many articulations/permutations to be reasonable.

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So you then suggest bussing my kids to the school that you claim isn’t good enough for your kids? That seems fair. Even though I’m the one paying way more in property and local taxes (according to you since you say you can’t afford to live where I do). I have never been opposed to trying to make the lower performing schools Better. Whether that’s more money budgeted to them or more experienced principals placed in them. But the fact of the matter is that bussing kids from down south up north will never ever work because I will move or send my kids to private before I send them across the county. And as other posters have said, this isn’t an option most people want regardless of where they live.

"Across the county" from B-CC to Einstein?

If you want to move or send your kids to private school, that's ok, please do. We will manage without you.

The area in South Kensington assigned to BCC seems a lot closer to Einstein so this would reduce transportation costs and allow their kids to be attend their neighborhood school.

South Kensington is 2.1 miles from Einstein and 2.5 miles from BCC. Since they built the new BCC cluster middle school within this neighborhood not too long ago, it seems likely it will remain zoned to BCC.

Nah, just reassign that MS to Einstein or even use a split-articulation model. We shouldn't be paying to bus kids all over the place. We need boundaries that reinforce this idea of neighborhood schools. Most people are for this, but this is an exception where a small group of privileged parents feel their too good for their neighborhood.

Just look at the distances, these kids have to be bussed regardless. Are you really saying that the extra 1/2 mile it takes to get to BCC as opposed to Einstein is bussing students all over the county? As everyone is aware the boundaries involving Kensington don’t make logical sense, but the South Kensington boundary is the least problematic because those kids are being bussed either way. The kids who are being bussed to WJ that could be walkers to Einstein is a different, and more legitimate, issue.

That's a mile day times 180 school days! It adds up. I don't want to pay for all that extra busing not to mention the negative impact it has on diversity.