Elon vs U of Richmond

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Anonymous wrote:Reality check here. Richmond is nothing special. Ask 10 people on the street and all 10 won’t know U Richmond from U Cincinnati or U Denver or U Dayton. Please don’t kid yourself. No one in the history in the university has ever hired someone over someone else because of Richmond, unless they are an alum.

Wrong. There is not a hirer at any company really worth working at that would place Elon on par with Richmond. Look, I know lots of parents whose kids couldn't get into a top school will tout Elon all day long. I know someone who graduated with a 3.8 from Elon and could not get into a decent law school. Even the top grads from Elon go on to service jobs, low ranked grad schools, and non-profits. I am sorry, but this is true.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There isn’t that big a gap between these schools. If you get As at Elon you will be able to get into a solid law, business or med school. Same with Richmond. Both are super solid schools. These schools have low “wow” factor but you will get a great education and you will be happy there.

My kid's counselor suggested both in the same breath, so I think they are not as far apart also some here think.

I am a fan of Elon, but this only tells me that your kids college counselor isn’t very bright or discerning, as the two schools are nothing alike except size and pretty campus. Or maybe your kid’s counselor just wants to be sure your kid gets in somewhere and is advising kid to apply widely.

I think you could recommend both because kids should have a balanced list. My kid may apply to both, but Richmond will be a reach and Elon a safety.

Careful calling Elon a safety. If your kid looks like they will get into other places, very likely it will be a reject or WL at best at Elon. My kid got deferred EA then waitlisted at RD. You know where they did get in? Georgetown, Richmond, W&M, W&L, Middlebury. Elon yeild protects like nobody's business. It's pathetic, honestly. Granted, my kid showed no interest other than the app, only did it because counselor said he needed another safety. So if it's a true safety, and your kid would honestly go there if admitted, show interest!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Reality check here. Richmond is nothing special. Ask 10 people on the street and all 10 won’t know U Richmond from U Cincinnati or U Denver or U Dayton. Please don’t kid yourself. No one in the history in the university has ever hired someone over someone else because of Richmond, unless they are an alum.

Wrong. There is not a hirer at any company really worth working at that would place Elon on par with Richmond. Look, I know lots of parents whose kids couldn't get into a top school will tout Elon all day long. I know someone who graduated with a 3.8 from Elon and could not get into a decent law school. Even the top grads from Elon go on to service jobs, low ranked grad schools, and non-profits. I am sorry, but this is true.

And are also places that won’t consider Richmond grads. Those employers are at schools where the students have either never heard of Richmond or it was their safety. It’s all relative.

[Anonymous]

Elon is fine but not on par with Richmond or even close. Come on people. Jesus Christ.

[Anonymous]

My kid hated Elon. The girls there are MEAN and shallow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid hated Elon. The girls there are MEAN and shallow.

This, every girl I have known to go to Elon, and its been all girls, were at the bottom of their private school class and shallow, this often lead to mean or exclusionary behavior to other kids who were not in with the in crowd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid hated Elon. The girls there are MEAN and shallow.

Are they foyine? I've heard mixed reports.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid hated Elon. The girls there are MEAN and shallow.

Sounds like you are mean too, TBH.

[Anonymous]

Elon has 6k students, hopefully not all mean. While I’m sure that exists, it honestly sounds more like a northern school issue. The southern girls I’d classify this way would be at a couple other schools in south I won’t name, and Elon tends to attract more down to earth kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid hated Elon. The girls there are MEAN and shallow.

+1. The stories I could tell.

I won’t say all of the girls were mean and shallow because my DD met a few nice girls before she left, but in her experience it was a predominantly “mean girl” culture. She is much happier elsewhere, which tells me she was not the problem.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kid hated Elon. The girls there are MEAN and shallow.

When everyone else is the problem, you’re the problem. It sounds like your child couldn’t hang socially so you decide to denigrate 6k students. Shame on you.

[Anonymous]

My kind hearted sensitive girl will be attending, sad I found this post and read it. Definitely dampers some excitement and can only hope you’re all exaggerating for emphasis based on a couple people you know.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My kind hearted sensitive girl will be attending, sad I found this post and read it. Definitely dampers some excitement and can only hope you’re all exaggerating for emphasis based on a couple people you know.

One of the PPs above. She may be fine. Try to get on a hall dorm not a suite. My kid was bullied mercilessly by her suitemates and had to move (then they moved on to another girl, who also later moved). I think a hall gives your DD more opportunity to meet a wider variety of kids. Have her get into clubs to try to find her people (mine did but one of her cruel suitemates was in the main club so that dampened it for my Dd but she did make a couple good friends that way). Frankly, had my kid been in a regular dorm, not a suite, she may have been ok. Her suitemates were very cruel (while pretending to be her friend) and it really messed her up and she spiraled downward. She moved out (oddly, to another quiet across the hall because that is all they could offer her) second semester and it was much better, although I would not say she was happy there. I think she just started on the wrong foot and never recovered. I hope your DD loves it. It’s a beautiful school and there are a lot of things to love there. I really wanted my DD to love it, but she is happier at her new school.

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Anonymous wrote:My kind hearted sensitive girl will be attending, sad I found this post and read it. Definitely dampers some excitement and can only hope you’re all exaggerating for emphasis based on a couple people you know.

One of the PPs above. She may be fine. Try to get on a hall dorm not a suite. My kid was bullied mercilessly by her suitemates and had to move (then they moved on to another girl, who also later moved). I think a hall gives your DD more opportunity to meet a wider variety of kids. Have her get into clubs to try to find her people (mine did but one of her cruel suitemates was in the main club so that dampened it for my Dd but she did make a couple good friends that way). Frankly, had my kid been in a regular dorm, not a suite, she may have been ok. Her suitemates were very cruel (while pretending to be her friend) and it really messed her up and she spiraled downward. She moved out (oddly, to another quiet across the hall because that is all they could offer her) second semester and it was much better, although I would not say she was happy there. I think she just started on the wrong foot and never recovered. I hope your DD loves it. It’s a beautiful school and there are a lot of things to love there. I really wanted my DD to love it, but she is happier at her new school.

Sounds like every school ever.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My kind hearted sensitive girl will be attending, sad I found this post and read it. Definitely dampers some excitement and can only hope you’re all exaggerating for emphasis based on a couple people you know.

One of the PPs above. She may be fine. Try to get on a hall dorm not a suite. My kid was bullied mercilessly by her suitemates and had to move (then they moved on to another girl, who also later moved). I think a hall gives your DD more opportunity to meet a wider variety of kids. Have her get into clubs to try to find her people (mine did but one of her cruel suitemates was in the main club so that dampened it for my Dd but she did make a couple good friends that way). Frankly, had my kid been in a regular dorm, not a suite, she may have been ok. Her suitemates were very cruel (while pretending to be her friend) and it really messed her up and she spiraled downward. She moved out (oddly, to another quiet across the hall because that is all they could offer her) second semester and it was much better, although I would not say she was happy there. I think she just started on the wrong foot and never recovered. I hope your DD loves it. It’s a beautiful school and there are a lot of things to love there. I really wanted my DD to love it, but she is happier at her new school.

Sounds like every school ever.

Nope. Not really. I have had daughters at 2 other schools and not had this problem. Elon was definitely different in that way.