NYC mayor declares 'emergency' due to migrants

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Anonymous wrote:Not a problem. I'm sure the border states are getting some federal money to handle migrants. Time to redistribute that money and make sure that any state that gets migrants shipped to it gets a chunk of that pie.

Really? Seems like an unfunded burden on those border towns. Sanctuary cities argued they don’t work with ICE because they are not funded to do so. Seemingly both places are using the same arguements.

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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.

Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.

No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?

Answer the question: Are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

I do not care. It’s all a stupid political stunts. This is just a made up issue by the right wing media because they do not want to talk about Trump. Answer my question will you migrate to Texas when Texas leave the US?

DP. “I do not care,” a liberal tells the truth.

Yet it is not fair for the citizens of Harlingen, Los Fresnos, Weslaco, Mercedes, Donna, Rio Hondo and many other small towns along
the Rio Grande border to bare the burden of the quality of life in their towns being destroyed. I work with high school coaches,
teachers, and athletic directors in these towns. People cannot leave their homes after about 6:00 pm every day because of illegal
drug traffickers and people being trafficked. Virtually nothing is done to the coyotes trafficking people across the US border.

No other country in the world allows strangers to simply wander in and stay.

I agree, it's not fair for the towns on the border in Southern Texas to shoulder the burden.
https://myrgv.com/featured/2022/10/09/nycs-emergency-declaration-over-migrant-arrivals-in-stark-juxtaposition-with-rgv/

Which is exactly why they should resettled in places with more resources and tax base and populations who brag that they’re sanctuaries- like NYC and MV

This whole episode has perfectly illustrated what hypocrites liberal elites are. DeSantis and Abott are geniuses.

Do you guys seriously think that illegal immigrants stay in those little bitty border towns? No, they don't.

What Desantis did was illegal, which is why he's about to get sued.

When you had to swim across the Rio Grande with only the clothes on your back, you better believe you are at the mercy and charity of the "itty bitty border towns". Ask me how I know.

But those illegal immigrants don't stay there, "sucking up resources", as Rs claim. The people in the little towns have been there for decades. Do you think these illegal immigrants have only recently been crossing the Rio Grande? Nope.

And let me remind you that both Bushes - Sr and Jr - are from TX, and they both provided amnesty to illegal immigrants.

The issue of illegal immigration has been around for a very long time, and there has been infighting within the R party about it. This is a mess that even the Rs can't figure out.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2005-01-09/mi-casa-es-su-casa-get-real

I used to be a R, and voted for both Buses. You are either very young or mired in the ultraright wing echo chamber to not know that previous R POTUS behaved not that dissimilarly to Biden on the issue of illegal immigration.

It has NEVER been this bad. Biden has set records for border encounters, migrant deaths, fentanyl seizures, terrorists crossing. These are not good records.
Quit trying to downplay the crisis we are currently experiencing. It is untenable.

+100
The constant gaslighting is something to behold.

Which is it? So border encounters with deportations and drug siezure are bad? Not even going to address the stupidity of the terrorist comment. But given your concern, what’s the answer? Shooting migrants in the leg like Trump wanted? Filling the Rio Grande with alligators and snakes like Trump wanted? Firing middles into Mexico like Trump wanted? Let’s hear your great ideas.

Why aren't you going to address that comment?

Border Patrol agents nab a dozen people on terror watchlist at southern border in August

Border Patrol have now encountered 78 individuals on terror watchlist this fiscal year alone

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/border-patrol-agents-nab-dozen-suspected-terrorists-southern-border-august

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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.

Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.

No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?

Answer the question: Are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

I do not care. It’s all a stupid political stunts. This is just a made up issue by the right wing media because they do not want to talk about Trump. Answer my question will you migrate to Texas when Texas leave the US?

DP. “I do not care,” a liberal tells the truth.

Yet it is not fair for the citizens of Harlingen, Los Fresnos, Weslaco, Mercedes, Donna, Rio Hondo and many other small towns along
the Rio Grande border to bare the burden of the quality of life in their towns being destroyed. I work with high school coaches,
teachers, and athletic directors in these towns. People cannot leave their homes after about 6:00 pm every day because of illegal
drug traffickers and people being trafficked. Virtually nothing is done to the coyotes trafficking people across the US border.

No other country in the world allows strangers to simply wander in and stay.

I agree, it's not fair for the towns on the border in Southern Texas to shoulder the burden.
https://myrgv.com/featured/2022/10/09/nycs-emergency-declaration-over-migrant-arrivals-in-stark-juxtaposition-with-rgv/

Which is exactly why they should resettled in places with more resources and tax base and populations who brag that they’re sanctuaries- like NYC and MV

This whole episode has perfectly illustrated what hypocrites liberal elites are. DeSantis and Abott are geniuses.

Do you guys seriously think that illegal immigrants stay in those little bitty border towns? No, they don't.

What Desantis did was illegal, which is why he's about to get sued.

When you had to swim across the Rio Grande with only the clothes on your back, you better believe you are at the mercy and charity of the "itty bitty border towns". Ask me how I know.

But those illegal immigrants don't stay there, "sucking up resources", as Rs claim. The people in the little towns have been there for decades. Do you think these illegal immigrants have only recently been crossing the Rio Grande? Nope.

And let me remind you that both Bushes - Sr and Jr - are from TX, and they both provided amnesty to illegal immigrants.

The issue of illegal immigration has been around for a very long time, and there has been infighting within the R party about it. This is a mess that even the Rs can't figure out.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2005-01-09/mi-casa-es-su-casa-get-real

I used to be a R, and voted for both Buses. You are either very young or mired in the ultraright wing echo chamber to not know that previous R POTUS behaved not that dissimilarly to Biden on the issue of illegal immigration.

It has NEVER been this bad. Biden has set records for border encounters, migrant deaths, fentanyl seizures, terrorists crossing. These are not good records.
Quit trying to downplay the crisis we are currently experiencing. It is untenable.

First of all, drugs have been trafficked across the border since the days of the war on drugs with Reagan. You might be really young to not remember it. The military went after drug kingpins who were sending massive amounts of drugs across the border.

Secondly, yes, we are seeing in raw numbers, more and more people crossing the border. But there are also more people in general all over the world. 1986 saw close to the same amount of apprehensions at the border as 2021, but the global population as a whole was a lot smaller in '86 compared to '21. So, the rate of illegal border crossings over the years has probably not changed or has gone down a bit. Also, in case you are really young, Reagan was POTUS in 86.



https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/rising-border-encounters-in-2021

Third, this is exactly the reason why global conflicts impact our national security. For example, we are seeing refugees from Ukraine and Russia trying to cross the southern border due to the conflict there. Today, the largest population of illegal border crossings are Venezuelans. Another reason why the US has a vested interest in stability in the Americas. Rs used to understand this.

It's also interesting that Rs were fine with giving Cubans refugee status as soon as their feet hit US soil, but not so with Venezuelans. Marc Rubio's own grandfather was an illegal immigrant who was ordered to be deported, but the deportation ordered was not enforced. Rubio's grandfather eventually was given residency status. But, now here's Rubio, supporting Desantis migrant trafficking. "Fine for me, but not fine for thee".

I am not for open borders. I do think we need to do more at the border, but I also think right wing media is making the issue larger than previous years, like in '86 when Reagan was POTUS, and when I was a R back then. And both Reagan and Bush giving amnesty probably encouraged more illegal immigrants to come here, even as the Obama administration tried to discourage them by taking out ads down south telling people not to come.

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Anonymous wrote:There is a problem that requires cooperation to fix it. It’s gone one for decades and decades. The bottom feeders on BoTh SiDeS Are guilty. Time for a new side. Enough with the circle jerk.

Sure there have been border crossings of questionable legality for decades. But volume matters. Today's volume is simply unprecedented and has become unmanageable. Kind of like Walgreen's has always had low levels of shoplifting in SF for decades. But it reached such volumes over the past years that Walgreens shut down dozens of stores there.

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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.

Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.

No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?

Answer the question: Are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

I do not care. It’s all a stupid political stunts. This is just a made up issue by the right wing media because they do not want to talk about Trump. Answer my question will you migrate to Texas when Texas leave the US?

DP. “I do not care,” a liberal tells the truth.

Yet it is not fair for the citizens of Harlingen, Los Fresnos, Weslaco, Mercedes, Donna, Rio Hondo and many other small towns along
the Rio Grande border to bare the burden of the quality of life in their towns being destroyed. I work with high school coaches,
teachers, and athletic directors in these towns. People cannot leave their homes after about 6:00 pm every day because of illegal
drug traffickers and people being trafficked. Virtually nothing is done to the coyotes trafficking people across the US border.

No other country in the world allows strangers to simply wander in and stay.

I agree, it's not fair for the towns on the border in Southern Texas to shoulder the burden.
https://myrgv.com/featured/2022/10/09/nycs-emergency-declaration-over-migrant-arrivals-in-stark-juxtaposition-with-rgv/

Which is exactly why they should resettled in places with more resources and tax base and populations who brag that they’re sanctuaries- like NYC and MV

This whole episode has perfectly illustrated what hypocrites liberal elites are. DeSantis and Abott are geniuses.

Do you guys seriously think that illegal immigrants stay in those little bitty border towns? No, they don't.

What Desantis did was illegal, which is why he's about to get sued.

When you had to swim across the Rio Grande with only the clothes on your back, you better believe you are at the mercy and charity of the "itty bitty border towns". Ask me how I know.

But those illegal immigrants don't stay there, "sucking up resources", as Rs claim. The people in the little towns have been there for decades. Do you think these illegal immigrants have only recently been crossing the Rio Grande? Nope.

And let me remind you that both Bushes - Sr and Jr - are from TX, and they both provided amnesty to illegal immigrants.

The issue of illegal immigration has been around for a very long time, and there has been infighting within the R party about it. This is a mess that even the Rs can't figure out.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2005-01-09/mi-casa-es-su-casa-get-real

I used to be a R, and voted for both Buses. You are either very young or mired in the ultraright wing echo chamber to not know that previous R POTUS behaved not that dissimilarly to Biden on the issue of illegal immigration.

It has NEVER been this bad. Biden has set records for border encounters, migrant deaths, fentanyl seizures, terrorists crossing. These are not good records.
Quit trying to downplay the crisis we are currently experiencing. It is untenable.

First of all, drugs have been trafficked across the border since the days of the war on drugs with Reagan. You might be really young to not remember it. The military went after drug kingpins who were sending massive amounts of drugs across the border.

Secondly, yes, we are seeing in raw numbers, more and more people crossing the border. But there are also more people in general all over the world. 1986 saw close to the same amount of apprehensions at the border as 2021, but the global population as a whole was a lot smaller in '86 compared to '21. So, the rate of illegal border crossings over the years has probably not changed or has gone down a bit. Also, in case you are really young, Reagan was POTUS in 86.



https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/rising-border-encounters-in-2021

Third, this is exactly the reason why global conflicts impact our national security. For example, we are seeing refugees from Ukraine and Russia trying to cross the southern border due to the conflict there. Today, the largest population of illegal border crossings are Venezuelans. Another reason why the US has a vested interest in stability in the Americas. Rs used to understand this.

It's also interesting that Rs were fine with giving Cubans refugee status as soon as their feet hit US soil, but not so with Venezuelans. Marc Rubio's own grandfather was an illegal immigrant who was ordered to be deported, but the deportation ordered was not enforced. Rubio's grandfather eventually was given residency status. But, now here's Rubio, supporting Desantis migrant trafficking. "Fine for me, but not fine for thee".

I am not for open borders. I do think we need to do more at the border, but I also think right wing media is making the issue larger than previous years, like in '86 when Reagan was POTUS, and when I was a R back then. And both Reagan and Bush giving amnesty probably encouraged more illegal immigrants to come here, even as the Obama administration tried to discourage them by taking out ads down south telling people not to come.

Sorry.....

I just can't take anyone seriously who makes excuses for the absolute disaster that our southern border has become.
It is not "global conflicts." And, while the amnesty granted by Reagan proved to be a huge mistake (Dems didn't keep their side of the deal), it is not what is causing our current crisis. These people coming probably don't even know who Reagan is.

Our current crisis is the result of Biden's campaign rhetoric, his campaign promises, and the actions he took on Day 1 of his presidency sending a loud and clear message that his administration had no intention of enforcing our border laws. Period.

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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.

Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.

No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?

Answer the question: Are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

I do not care. It’s all a stupid political stunts. This is just a made up issue by the right wing media because they do not want to talk about Trump. Answer my question will you migrate to Texas when Texas leave the US?

DP. “I do not care,” a liberal tells the truth.

Yet it is not fair for the citizens of Harlingen, Los Fresnos, Weslaco, Mercedes, Donna, Rio Hondo and many other small towns along
the Rio Grande border to bare the burden of the quality of life in their towns being destroyed. I work with high school coaches,
teachers, and athletic directors in these towns. People cannot leave their homes after about 6:00 pm every day because of illegal
drug traffickers and people being trafficked. Virtually nothing is done to the coyotes trafficking people across the US border.

No other country in the world allows strangers to simply wander in and stay.

I agree, it's not fair for the towns on the border in Southern Texas to shoulder the burden.
https://myrgv.com/featured/2022/10/09/nycs-emergency-declaration-over-migrant-arrivals-in-stark-juxtaposition-with-rgv/

Which is exactly why they should resettled in places with more resources and tax base and populations who brag that they’re sanctuaries- like NYC and MV

This whole episode has perfectly illustrated what hypocrites liberal elites are. DeSantis and Abott are geniuses.

Do you guys seriously think that illegal immigrants stay in those little bitty border towns? No, they don't.

What Desantis did was illegal, which is why he's about to get sued.

When you had to swim across the Rio Grande with only the clothes on your back, you better believe you are at the mercy and charity of the "itty bitty border towns". Ask me how I know.

But those illegal immigrants don't stay there, "sucking up resources", as Rs claim. The people in the little towns have been there for decades. Do you think these illegal immigrants have only recently been crossing the Rio Grande? Nope.

And let me remind you that both Bushes - Sr and Jr - are from TX, and they both provided amnesty to illegal immigrants.

The issue of illegal immigration has been around for a very long time, and there has been infighting within the R party about it. This is a mess that even the Rs can't figure out.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2005-01-09/mi-casa-es-su-casa-get-real

I used to be a R, and voted for both Buses. You are either very young or mired in the ultraright wing echo chamber to not know that previous R POTUS behaved not that dissimilarly to Biden on the issue of illegal immigration.

It has NEVER been this bad. Biden has set records for border encounters, migrant deaths, fentanyl seizures, terrorists crossing. These are not good records.
Quit trying to downplay the crisis we are currently experiencing. It is untenable.

+100
The constant gaslighting is something to behold.

Which is it? So border encounters with deportations and drug siezure are bad? Not even going to address the stupidity of the terrorist comment. But given your concern, what’s the answer? Shooting migrants in the leg like Trump wanted? Filling the Rio Grande with alligators and snakes like Trump wanted? Firing middles into Mexico like Trump wanted? Let’s hear your great ideas.

Why aren't you going to address that comment?

Border Patrol agents nab a dozen people on terror watchlist at southern border in August

Border Patrol have now encountered 78 individuals on terror watchlist this fiscal year alone

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/border-patrol-agents-nab-dozen-suspected-terrorists-southern-border-august

Oh FFS. It’s a database with literally one million names of people for which the US givernment asserts there is a reasonable suspicion that the person has some vague connection to “terrorist activity” including travel or religious or ethnic affiliations. It’s “suspected terrorist” panic porn for morons.

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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.

Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.

No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?

Answer the question: Are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

I do not care. It’s all a stupid political stunts. This is just a made up issue by the right wing media because they do not want to talk about Trump. Answer my question will you migrate to Texas when Texas leave the US?

DP. “I do not care,” a liberal tells the truth.

Yet it is not fair for the citizens of Harlingen, Los Fresnos, Weslaco, Mercedes, Donna, Rio Hondo and many other small towns along
the Rio Grande border to bare the burden of the quality of life in their towns being destroyed. I work with high school coaches,
teachers, and athletic directors in these towns. People cannot leave their homes after about 6:00 pm every day because of illegal
drug traffickers and people being trafficked. Virtually nothing is done to the coyotes trafficking people across the US border.

No other country in the world allows strangers to simply wander in and stay.

I agree, it's not fair for the towns on the border in Southern Texas to shoulder the burden.
https://myrgv.com/featured/2022/10/09/nycs-emergency-declaration-over-migrant-arrivals-in-stark-juxtaposition-with-rgv/

Which is exactly why they should resettled in places with more resources and tax base and populations who brag that they’re sanctuaries- like NYC and MV

This whole episode has perfectly illustrated what hypocrites liberal elites are. DeSantis and Abott are geniuses.

Do you guys seriously think that illegal immigrants stay in those little bitty border towns? No, they don't.

What Desantis did was illegal, which is why he's about to get sued.

When you had to swim across the Rio Grande with only the clothes on your back, you better believe you are at the mercy and charity of the "itty bitty border towns". Ask me how I know.

But those illegal immigrants don't stay there, "sucking up resources", as Rs claim. The people in the little towns have been there for decades. Do you think these illegal immigrants have only recently been crossing the Rio Grande? Nope.

And let me remind you that both Bushes - Sr and Jr - are from TX, and they both provided amnesty to illegal immigrants.

The issue of illegal immigration has been around for a very long time, and there has been infighting within the R party about it. This is a mess that even the Rs can't figure out.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2005-01-09/mi-casa-es-su-casa-get-real

I used to be a R, and voted for both Buses. You are either very young or mired in the ultraright wing echo chamber to not know that previous R POTUS behaved not that dissimilarly to Biden on the issue of illegal immigration.

It has NEVER been this bad. Biden has set records for border encounters, migrant deaths, fentanyl seizures, terrorists crossing. These are not good records.
Quit trying to downplay the crisis we are currently experiencing. It is untenable.

+100
The constant gaslighting is something to behold.

Which is it? So border encounters with deportations and drug siezure are bad? Not even going to address the stupidity of the terrorist comment. But given your concern, what’s the answer? Shooting migrants in the leg like Trump wanted? Filling the Rio Grande with alligators and snakes like Trump wanted? Firing middles into Mexico like Trump wanted? Let’s hear your great ideas.

Why aren't you going to address that comment?

Border Patrol agents nab a dozen people on terror watchlist at southern border in August

Border Patrol have now encountered 78 individuals on terror watchlist this fiscal year alone

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/border-patrol-agents-nab-dozen-suspected-terrorists-southern-border-august

Oh FFS. It’s a database with literally one million names of people for which the US givernment asserts there is a reasonable suspicion that the person has some vague connection to “terrorist activity” including travel or religious or ethnic affiliations. It’s “suspected terrorist” panic porn for morons.

I have read on here - repeatedly - that people believe that people on this list should be on the no-fly list.
So, which is it.... a database with questionable entries, or a list of people to worry about?

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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.

Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.

No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?

Answer the question: Are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

I do not care. It’s all a stupid political stunts. This is just a made up issue by the right wing media because they do not want to talk about Trump. Answer my question will you migrate to Texas when Texas leave the US?

DP. “I do not care,” a liberal tells the truth.

Yet it is not fair for the citizens of Harlingen, Los Fresnos, Weslaco, Mercedes, Donna, Rio Hondo and many other small towns along
the Rio Grande border to bare the burden of the quality of life in their towns being destroyed. I work with high school coaches,
teachers, and athletic directors in these towns. People cannot leave their homes after about 6:00 pm every day because of illegal
drug traffickers and people being trafficked. Virtually nothing is done to the coyotes trafficking people across the US border.

No other country in the world allows strangers to simply wander in and stay.

I agree, it's not fair for the towns on the border in Southern Texas to shoulder the burden.
https://myrgv.com/featured/2022/10/09/nycs-emergency-declaration-over-migrant-arrivals-in-stark-juxtaposition-with-rgv/

Which is exactly why they should resettled in places with more resources and tax base and populations who brag that they’re sanctuaries- like NYC and MV

This whole episode has perfectly illustrated what hypocrites liberal elites are. DeSantis and Abott are geniuses.

Do you guys seriously think that illegal immigrants stay in those little bitty border towns? No, they don't.

What Desantis did was illegal, which is why he's about to get sued.

When you had to swim across the Rio Grande with only the clothes on your back, you better believe you are at the mercy and charity of the "itty bitty border towns". Ask me how I know.

But those illegal immigrants don't stay there, "sucking up resources", as Rs claim. The people in the little towns have been there for decades. Do you think these illegal immigrants have only recently been crossing the Rio Grande? Nope.

And let me remind you that both Bushes - Sr and Jr - are from TX, and they both provided amnesty to illegal immigrants.

The issue of illegal immigration has been around for a very long time, and there has been infighting within the R party about it. This is a mess that even the Rs can't figure out.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2005-01-09/mi-casa-es-su-casa-get-real

I used to be a R, and voted for both Buses. You are either very young or mired in the ultraright wing echo chamber to not know that previous R POTUS behaved not that dissimilarly to Biden on the issue of illegal immigration.

It has NEVER been this bad. Biden has set records for border encounters, migrant deaths, fentanyl seizures, terrorists crossing. These are not good records.
Quit trying to downplay the crisis we are currently experiencing. It is untenable.

+100
The constant gaslighting is something to behold.

Which is it? So border encounters with deportations and drug siezure are bad? Not even going to address the stupidity of the terrorist comment. But given your concern, what’s the answer? Shooting migrants in the leg like Trump wanted? Filling the Rio Grande with alligators and snakes like Trump wanted? Firing middles into Mexico like Trump wanted? Let’s hear your great ideas.

Why aren't you going to address that comment?

Border Patrol agents nab a dozen people on terror watchlist at southern border in August

Border Patrol have now encountered 78 individuals on terror watchlist this fiscal year alone

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/border-patrol-agents-nab-dozen-suspected-terrorists-southern-border-august

Oh FFS. It’s a database with literally one million names of people for which the US givernment asserts there is a reasonable suspicion that the person has some vague connection to “terrorist activity” including travel or religious or ethnic affiliations. It’s “suspected terrorist” panic porn for morons.

The quality reporting we’ve come to expect from Fox. It reports there were 12 “encounters” in August with someone whose name matched someone in the watchlist. No reporting that this actually was the same person. No reporting of any arrest having been made. Why? Because there was no probable cause the person encountered has committed any crime whatsoever. Security theater at its finest.

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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

This database is not the same thing as the “no fly” list.


I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.

Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.

No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?

Answer the question: Are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

I do not care. It’s all a stupid political stunts. This is just a made up issue by the right wing media because they do not want to talk about Trump. Answer my question will you migrate to Texas when Texas leave the US?

DP. “I do not care,” a liberal tells the truth.

Yet it is not fair for the citizens of Harlingen, Los Fresnos, Weslaco, Mercedes, Donna, Rio Hondo and many other small towns along
the Rio Grande border to bare the burden of the quality of life in their towns being destroyed. I work with high school coaches,
teachers, and athletic directors in these towns. People cannot leave their homes after about 6:00 pm every day because of illegal
drug traffickers and people being trafficked. Virtually nothing is done to the coyotes trafficking people across the US border.

No other country in the world allows strangers to simply wander in and stay.

I agree, it's not fair for the towns on the border in Southern Texas to shoulder the burden.
https://myrgv.com/featured/2022/10/09/nycs-emergency-declaration-over-migrant-arrivals-in-stark-juxtaposition-with-rgv/

Which is exactly why they should resettled in places with more resources and tax base and populations who brag that they’re sanctuaries- like NYC and MV

This whole episode has perfectly illustrated what hypocrites liberal elites are. DeSantis and Abott are geniuses.

Do you guys seriously think that illegal immigrants stay in those little bitty border towns? No, they don't.

What Desantis did was illegal, which is why he's about to get sued.

When you had to swim across the Rio Grande with only the clothes on your back, you better believe you are at the mercy and charity of the "itty bitty border towns". Ask me how I know.

But those illegal immigrants don't stay there, "sucking up resources", as Rs claim. The people in the little towns have been there for decades. Do you think these illegal immigrants have only recently been crossing the Rio Grande? Nope.

And let me remind you that both Bushes - Sr and Jr - are from TX, and they both provided amnesty to illegal immigrants.

The issue of illegal immigration has been around for a very long time, and there has been infighting within the R party about it. This is a mess that even the Rs can't figure out.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2005-01-09/mi-casa-es-su-casa-get-real

I used to be a R, and voted for both Buses. You are either very young or mired in the ultraright wing echo chamber to not know that previous R POTUS behaved not that dissimilarly to Biden on the issue of illegal immigration.

It has NEVER been this bad. Biden has set records for border encounters, migrant deaths, fentanyl seizures, terrorists crossing. These are not good records.
Quit trying to downplay the crisis we are currently experiencing. It is untenable.

+100
The constant gaslighting is something to behold.

Which is it? So border encounters with deportations and drug siezure are bad? Not even going to address the stupidity of the terrorist comment. But given your concern, what’s the answer? Shooting migrants in the leg like Trump wanted? Filling the Rio Grande with alligators and snakes like Trump wanted? Firing middles into Mexico like Trump wanted? Let’s hear your great ideas.

Why aren't you going to address that comment?

Border Patrol agents nab a dozen people on terror watchlist at southern border in August

Border Patrol have now encountered 78 individuals on terror watchlist this fiscal year alone

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/border-patrol-agents-nab-dozen-suspected-terrorists-southern-border-august

Oh FFS. It’s a database with literally one million names of people for which the US givernment asserts there is a reasonable suspicion that the person has some vague connection to “terrorist activity” including travel or religious or ethnic affiliations. It’s “suspected terrorist” panic porn for morons.

I have read on here - repeatedly - that people believe that people on this list should be on the no-fly list.
So, which is it.... a database with questionable entries, or a list of people to worry about?

The NTDB “watchlist” is not the same thing as the TSA “no fly” or screening “selectee” lists. All represent government overreach in the name of national security that raise serious civil liberties concerns but everybody was cool with it when it was principally used to target Muslims.

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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.

Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.

No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?

Answer the question: Are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

I do not care. It’s all a stupid political stunts. This is just a made up issue by the right wing media because they do not want to talk about Trump. Answer my question will you migrate to Texas when Texas leave the US?

DP. “I do not care,” a liberal tells the truth.

Yet it is not fair for the citizens of Harlingen, Los Fresnos, Weslaco, Mercedes, Donna, Rio Hondo and many other small towns along
the Rio Grande border to bare the burden of the quality of life in their towns being destroyed. I work with high school coaches,
teachers, and athletic directors in these towns. People cannot leave their homes after about 6:00 pm every day because of illegal
drug traffickers and people being trafficked. Virtually nothing is done to the coyotes trafficking people across the US border.

No other country in the world allows strangers to simply wander in and stay.

I agree, it's not fair for the towns on the border in Southern Texas to shoulder the burden.
https://myrgv.com/featured/2022/10/09/nycs-emergency-declaration-over-migrant-arrivals-in-stark-juxtaposition-with-rgv/

Which is exactly why they should resettled in places with more resources and tax base and populations who brag that they’re sanctuaries- like NYC and MV

This whole episode has perfectly illustrated what hypocrites liberal elites are. DeSantis and Abott are geniuses.

Do you guys seriously think that illegal immigrants stay in those little bitty border towns? No, they don't.

What Desantis did was illegal, which is why he's about to get sued.

When you had to swim across the Rio Grande with only the clothes on your back, you better believe you are at the mercy and charity of the "itty bitty border towns". Ask me how I know.

But those illegal immigrants don't stay there, "sucking up resources", as Rs claim. The people in the little towns have been there for decades. Do you think these illegal immigrants have only recently been crossing the Rio Grande? Nope.

And let me remind you that both Bushes - Sr and Jr - are from TX, and they both provided amnesty to illegal immigrants.

The issue of illegal immigration has been around for a very long time, and there has been infighting within the R party about it. This is a mess that even the Rs can't figure out.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2005-01-09/mi-casa-es-su-casa-get-real

I used to be a R, and voted for both Buses. You are either very young or mired in the ultraright wing echo chamber to not know that previous R POTUS behaved not that dissimilarly to Biden on the issue of illegal immigration.

It has NEVER been this bad. Biden has set records for border encounters, migrant deaths, fentanyl seizures, terrorists crossing. These are not good records.
Quit trying to downplay the crisis we are currently experiencing. It is untenable.

+100
The constant gaslighting is something to behold.

Which is it? So border encounters with deportations and drug siezure are bad? Not even going to address the stupidity of the terrorist comment. But given your concern, what’s the answer? Shooting migrants in the leg like Trump wanted? Filling the Rio Grande with alligators and snakes like Trump wanted? Firing middles into Mexico like Trump wanted? Let’s hear your great ideas.

Why aren't you going to address that comment?

Border Patrol agents nab a dozen people on terror watchlist at southern border in August

Border Patrol have now encountered 78 individuals on terror watchlist this fiscal year alone

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/border-patrol-agents-nab-dozen-suspected-terrorists-southern-border-august

Oh FFS. It’s a database with literally one million names of people for which the US givernment asserts there is a reasonable suspicion that the person has some vague connection to “terrorist activity” including travel or religious or ethnic affiliations. It’s “suspected terrorist” panic porn for morons.

The quality reporting we’ve come to expect from Fox. It reports there were 12 “encounters” in August with someone whose name matched someone in the watchlist. No reporting that this actually was the same person. No reporting of any arrest having been made. Why? Because there was no probable cause the person encountered has committed any crime whatsoever. Security theater at its finest.

It’s possible the same person was “encountered” in each of the 12 reported instances. Fox News playing fast and loose with the facts as usual.

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Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

I'm not defending anything, but last I checked TX, FL, and NY are part of the US, and the federal government has the authority to deal with illegal immigrants, not a governor who is looking to score political points and looking to run for POTUS in two years.

Also, Desantis had ZERO authority to ship illegal immigrants from TX, a state he has ZERO jurisdiction in. So again, he's basically a human trafficker. We should put him in prison.

Yes, the federal government has the authority.... but when the federal government shirks that authority, the states most heavily impacted need to take action.

And, are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

DeSantis should be awarded a medal for what he did. The Democrats are FINALLY talking about the crisis at the border. That is a miracle.

No it’s not up to the states. Sorry not how it works. When Texas leaves can you join them?

Answer the question: Are you equally as outraged about the mayor of El Paso (D) busing migrants to NYC?

I do not care. It’s all a stupid political stunts. This is just a made up issue by the right wing media because they do not want to talk about Trump. Answer my question will you migrate to Texas when Texas leave the US?

DP. “I do not care,” a liberal tells the truth.

Yet it is not fair for the citizens of Harlingen, Los Fresnos, Weslaco, Mercedes, Donna, Rio Hondo and many other small towns along
the Rio Grande border to bare the burden of the quality of life in their towns being destroyed. I work with high school coaches,
teachers, and athletic directors in these towns. People cannot leave their homes after about 6:00 pm every day because of illegal
drug traffickers and people being trafficked. Virtually nothing is done to the coyotes trafficking people across the US border.

No other country in the world allows strangers to simply wander in and stay.

I agree, it's not fair for the towns on the border in Southern Texas to shoulder the burden.
https://myrgv.com/featured/2022/10/09/nycs-emergency-declaration-over-migrant-arrivals-in-stark-juxtaposition-with-rgv/

Which is exactly why they should resettled in places with more resources and tax base and populations who brag that they’re sanctuaries- like NYC and MV

This whole episode has perfectly illustrated what hypocrites liberal elites are. DeSantis and Abott are geniuses.

Do you guys seriously think that illegal immigrants stay in those little bitty border towns? No, they don't.

What Desantis did was illegal, which is why he's about to get sued.

When you had to swim across the Rio Grande with only the clothes on your back, you better believe you are at the mercy and charity of the "itty bitty border towns". Ask me how I know.

But those illegal immigrants don't stay there, "sucking up resources", as Rs claim. The people in the little towns have been there for decades. Do you think these illegal immigrants have only recently been crossing the Rio Grande? Nope.

And let me remind you that both Bushes - Sr and Jr - are from TX, and they both provided amnesty to illegal immigrants.

The issue of illegal immigration has been around for a very long time, and there has been infighting within the R party about it. This is a mess that even the Rs can't figure out.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2005-01-09/mi-casa-es-su-casa-get-real

I used to be a R, and voted for both Buses. You are either very young or mired in the ultraright wing echo chamber to not know that previous R POTUS behaved not that dissimilarly to Biden on the issue of illegal immigration.

It has NEVER been this bad. Biden has set records for border encounters, migrant deaths, fentanyl seizures, terrorists crossing. These are not good records.
Quit trying to downplay the crisis we are currently experiencing. It is untenable.

First of all, drugs have been trafficked across the border since the days of the war on drugs with Reagan. You might be really young to not remember it. The military went after drug kingpins who were sending massive amounts of drugs across the border.

Secondly, yes, we are seeing in raw numbers, more and more people crossing the border. But there are also more people in general all over the world. 1986 saw close to the same amount of apprehensions at the border as 2021, but the global population as a whole was a lot smaller in '86 compared to '21. So, the rate of illegal border crossings over the years has probably not changed or has gone down a bit. Also, in case you are really young, Reagan was POTUS in 86.



https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/rising-border-encounters-in-2021

Third, this is exactly the reason why global conflicts impact our national security. For example, we are seeing refugees from Ukraine and Russia trying to cross the southern border due to the conflict there. Today, the largest population of illegal border crossings are Venezuelans. Another reason why the US has a vested interest in stability in the Americas. Rs used to understand this.

It's also interesting that Rs were fine with giving Cubans refugee status as soon as their feet hit US soil, but not so with Venezuelans. Marc Rubio's own grandfather was an illegal immigrant who was ordered to be deported, but the deportation ordered was not enforced. Rubio's grandfather eventually was given residency status. But, now here's Rubio, supporting Desantis migrant trafficking. "Fine for me, but not fine for thee".

I am not for open borders. I do think we need to do more at the border, but I also think right wing media is making the issue larger than previous years, like in '86 when Reagan was POTUS, and when I was a R back then. And both Reagan and Bush giving amnesty probably encouraged more illegal immigrants to come here, even as the Obama administration tried to discourage them by taking out ads down south telling people not to come.

Sorry.....

I just can't take anyone seriously who makes excuses for the absolute disaster that our southern border has become.
It is not "global conflicts." And, while the amnesty granted by Reagan proved to be a huge mistake (Dems didn't keep their side of the deal), it is not what is causing our current crisis. These people coming probably don't even know who Reagan is.

Our current crisis is the result of Biden's campaign rhetoric, his campaign promises, and the actions he took on Day 1 of his presidency sending a loud and clear message that his administration had no intention of enforcing our border laws. Period.

I think you have comprehension issues. I make no excuses. I am showing you facts (see graph). But, I know that some people these days don't like to look at facts. It's an inconvenient truth.

I dislike Biden, but Trump is a crazy F*er who is dangerous to our democracy. That's why Biden won. Maybe Rs should learn their lesson and not put up a crazy, conspiracy supporting F*er up as their candidate.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:NYC is a sanctuary city. I don’t understand how this could be an emergency.

because a bunch were dumped on them by another state who had no authority to do that. Those governors lied to the people and were basically human traffickers for a political stunt.

But weren’t those unlawful immigrants dumped in those other states by a federal govt that isn’t enforcing security at the border because doing so is unpopular with the political class in those states now doing the complaining?

So you think small, under resourced towns in rural Texas should absorb the massive costs of dealing with a huge influx of people who shouldn’t be here, but draw the line when a few hundred show up in NYC?


Seriously- how do you defend that?

They have the bad luck of geography. And no immigration authority. And DeSantis was not sending FLA immigrants but going to TX and lying to them and then sending them elsewhere.

So, yeah, not the same thing.

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Anonymous wrote:Not a problem. I'm sure the border states are getting some federal money to handle migrants. Time to redistribute that money and make sure that any state that gets migrants shipped to it gets a chunk of that pie.

Really? Seems like an unfunded burden on those border towns. Sanctuary cities argued they don’t work with ICE because they are not funded to do so. Seemingly both places are using the same arguements.

I literally don't care. If Red States hate the government so much, then they can give back federal money. Especially if not using it for its intended purpose. You're sending them elsewhere, you lose the money.

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Sorry.....

I just can't take anyone seriously who makes excuses for the absolute disaster that our southern border has become.
It is not "global conflicts." And, while the amnesty granted by Reagan proved to be a huge mistake (Dems didn't keep their side of the deal), it is not what is causing our current crisis. These people coming probably don't even know who Reagan is.

Our current crisis is the result of Biden's campaign rhetoric, his campaign promises, and the actions he took on Day 1 of his presidency sending a loud and clear message that his administration had no intention of enforcing our border laws. Period.

GWB also provided amnesty, and at one point, congress was controlled by Rs. They had the chance then to fix immigration issues. But, they didn't. But sure, it's all the Dems fault. I'm sure that makes you feel better.

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Sorry.....

I just can't take anyone seriously who makes excuses for the absolute disaster that our southern border has become.
It is not "global conflicts." And, while the amnesty granted by Reagan proved to be a huge mistake (Dems didn't keep their side of the deal), it is not what is causing our current crisis. These people coming probably don't even know who Reagan is.

Our current crisis is the result of Biden's campaign rhetoric, his campaign promises, and the actions he took on Day 1 of his presidency sending a loud and clear message that his administration had no intention of enforcing our border laws. Period.

But they know that several past POTUS have provided amnesty, including a few R ones. They know that they can get amnesty. That is the point. They don't care who the POTUS is.