Definitive Top 25 list

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Anonymous wrote:In no world is it harder to get into large state school Univ. Mich than Georgetown? You all are smoking crack.

Georgetown (7,300 undergrads) is MUCH more selective than UMich Ann Arbor (31,000 undergrads).

Georgetown REQUIRES test scores and requires ALL scores from everyone you took. It is not on the Common App. For 2022 the SAT average score was 1500. GU's acceptance rate is 15%

Michigan does not require test scores. It lists 1340 as the SAT score for usual admission. Michigan's acceptance rate is 26%

Georgetown only ranks lower on this list precisely because it is not a common app school and requires test scores which precludes many of the kids that would have to submit their scores.

This has no bearing on its rank. Did you or your kid go to Georgetown?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In no world is it harder to get into large state school Univ. Mich than Georgetown? You all are smoking crack.

Georgetown (7,300 undergrads) is MUCH more selective than UMich Ann Arbor (31,000 undergrads).

Georgetown REQUIRES test scores and requires ALL scores from everyone you took. It is not on the Common App. For 2022 the SAT average score was 1500. GU's acceptance rate is 15%

Michigan does not require test scores. It lists 1340 as the SAT score for usual admission. Michigan's acceptance rate is 26%

Georgetown only ranks lower on this list precisely because it is not a common app school and requires test scores which precludes many of the kids that would have to submit their scores.

The rankings are all based on total number that apply vs accepted. Schools not using common app get fewer applicants and those that require higher test scores in this test optional time get even fewer because kids with crappy scores won’t bother applying. High stat kids get turned down more frequently because the Applicants applying there are all high stat.
This has no bearing on its rank. Did you or your kid go to Georgetown?

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Anonymous wrote:In no world is it harder to get into large state school Univ. Mich than Georgetown? You all are smoking crack.

Georgetown (7,300 undergrads) is MUCH more selective than UMich Ann Arbor (31,000 undergrads).

Georgetown REQUIRES test scores and requires ALL scores from everyone you took. It is not on the Common App. For 2022 the SAT average score was 1500. GU's acceptance rate is 15%

Michigan does not require test scores. It lists 1340 as the SAT score for usual admission. Michigan's acceptance rate is 26%

Georgetown only ranks lower on this list precisely because it is not a common app school and requires test scores which precludes many of the kids that would have to submit their scores.


Who cares? Michigan is overall academically superior to Georgetown.

Yes, please apply to Michigan and not Georgetown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In no world is it harder to get into large state school Univ. Mich than Georgetown? You all are smoking crack.

Georgetown (7,300 undergrads) is MUCH more selective than UMich Ann Arbor (31,000 undergrads).

Georgetown REQUIRES test scores and requires ALL scores from everyone you took. It is not on the Common App. For 2022 the SAT average score was 1500. GU's acceptance rate is 15%

Michigan does not require test scores. It lists 1340 as the SAT score for usual admission. Michigan's acceptance rate is 26%

Georgetown only ranks lower on this list precisely because it is not a common app school and requires test scores which precludes many of the kids that would have to submit their scores.

You need to parse the in state versus out of state scores and percentages.

About half the in state applicants gain admission. About 5% of the OOS gain admission.

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Anonymous wrote:Schools that make the top 25 on both USnews and WSJ should be ranked higher on the combined list. That means Emory should be higher than ND as Emory is top 25 on both and ND is not. Also NYU is top 25 on neither while Berkeley is top 25 on one.
1.Harvard
2.MIT
3.Stanford
4.Yale
4. tie Princeton
6. Duke
7. Cal Tech
8. Columbia
8. tie Johns Hopkins
8. tie Northwestern
11. U Chicago
11. tie UPenn
11. tie Brown
14. Dartmouth
15. Cornell
16. Vanderbilt
17. Washington U
18. Rice
19. Emory
20. CMU
21. Umichigan
22.USC
22. tie Notre Dame
22. tie UCLA
25. Georgetown
25. UC Berkeley
It should look more like this!

This makes more sense. However, Duke is still to high!

Duke too high, Penn too low

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In no world is it harder to get into large state school Univ. Mich than Georgetown? You all are smoking crack.

Georgetown (7,300 undergrads) is MUCH more selective than UMich Ann Arbor (31,000 undergrads).

Georgetown REQUIRES test scores and requires ALL scores from everyone you took. It is not on the Common App. For 2022 the SAT average score was 1500. GU's acceptance rate is 15%

Michigan does not require test scores. It lists 1340 as the SAT score for usual admission. Michigan's acceptance rate is 26%

Georgetown only ranks lower on this list precisely because it is not a common app school and requires test scores which precludes many of the kids that would have to submit their scores.


Who cares? Michigan is overall academically superior to Georgetown.

Yes, please apply to Michigan and not Georgetown.

If I want an overall better education, you bet I would!

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How is this list definitive? Making declarations is rarely effective.

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USNews admitted that they don’t audit the data that schools supply to them. They basically rely on an honor system. We’re going to see some slip in rankings once USNews conducts an audit. My guess is that Wash U, Rice, Vandy, and Emory will slide down to more to the 20-35 range, if not lower.

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Anonymous wrote:In no world is it harder to get into large state school Univ. Mich than Georgetown? You all are smoking crack.

Georgetown (7,300 undergrads) is MUCH more selective than UMich Ann Arbor (31,000 undergrads).

Georgetown REQUIRES test scores and requires ALL scores from everyone you took. It is not on the Common App. For 2022 the SAT average score was 1500. GU's acceptance rate is 15%

Michigan does not require test scores. It lists 1340 as the SAT score for usual admission. Michigan's acceptance rate is 26%

Georgetown only ranks lower on this list precisely because it is not a common app school and requires test scores which precludes many of the kids that would have to submit their scores.

You need to parse the in state versus out of state scores and percentages.

About half the in state applicants gain admission. About 5% of the OOS gain admission.

There is a difference in admit rates for in state vs. out of state, but 2 years ago it was 48% vs. 22%. You’re saying it went down massively to 5% this year? Show us your data.

https://news.umich.edu/university-of-michigan-undergraduate-enrollment-steady-for-fall-2020/

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Low. Acceptance. Rates. Does. Not. Equal. To. Better. Education.

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Anonymous wrote:Low. Acceptance. Rates. Does. Not. Equal. To. Better. Education.

Exactly. Correct.

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Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

This is undergraduate ranking

You refuse to answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Is it test scores? It's definitely not acceptance rate. Is it alumni respect? Wall Street placement? What is it? I'll tell you now Emory performs just as well or better on all these metrics.

The flagship undfergraduate ranking by USN&WR.

ND is a T20 school.
Emory is not.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Uh, in that link you post ND is 19 and Emory is 21. Talk about splitting hairs!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:USNews admitted that they don’t audit the data that schools supply to them. They basically rely on an honor system. We’re going to see some slip in rankings once USNews conducts an audit. My guess is that Wash U, Rice, Vandy, and Emory will slide down to more to the 20-35 range, if not lower.

Wishful thinking. Columbia was recently confirmed to cheat but it's Vandy and others you pick on.

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Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

This is undergraduate ranking

You refuse to answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Is it test scores? It's definitely not acceptance rate. Is it alumni respect? Wall Street placement? What is it? I'll tell you now Emory performs just as well or better on all these metrics.

The flagship undfergraduate ranking by USN&WR.

ND is a T20 school.
Emory is not.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Uh, in that link you post ND is 19 and Emory is 21. Talk about splitting hairs!

Thank you! Posters here have mental illness.

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Anonymous wrote:Why should ND switch with Emory in particular why not another school? What makes ND the better school? Emory is more selective at 11% vs 14% for ND.

Northeastern is more selective than both of them this year at 7%.

Acceptance rate is not counted at leat for the flagship ranking USN&WR any more.

Cool, as it should be but you still didn't answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Emory has top 5 grad programs. ND has none in the top 20.

This is undergraduate ranking

You refuse to answer the question. What makes ND better than Emory? Is it test scores? It's definitely not acceptance rate. Is it alumni respect? Wall Street placement? What is it? I'll tell you now Emory performs just as well or better on all these metrics.

The flagship undfergraduate ranking by USN&WR.

ND is a T20 school.
Emory is not.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities

Uh, in that link you post ND is 19 and Emory is 21. Talk about splitting hairs!

Thank you! Posters here have mental illness.


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