School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m curious that no one here is interested in motive. All the fixation in this thread is on that “what” and the “how”, but no one is asking about the “why”.

That’s not science.

What motive matters? He walked into a school and shot 11 victims - killing 3.

So you don’t care about what prompted him to do that? There HAS to be a reason. I’d like to know what it is. Why wouldn’t you?

Do I care what a misanthrope used for justification for committing this vile act? No. I think he deserves the electric chair.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious that no one here is interested in motive. All the fixation in this thread is on that “what” and the “how”, but no one is asking about the “why”.

That’s not science.

What motive matters? He walked into a school and shot 11 victims - killing 3.

So you don’t care about what prompted him to do that? There HAS to be a reason. I’d like to know what it is. Why wouldn’t you?

DP. Why does it matter? There is no justifiable reason to kill off your classmates.

The issue is that he COULD and he DID. So the "what" and "how" are very important.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious that no one here is interested in motive. All the fixation in this thread is on that “what” and the “how”, but no one is asking about the “why”.

That’s not science.

What motive matters? He walked into a school and shot 11 victims - killing 3.

So you don’t care about what prompted him to do that? There HAS to be a reason. I’d like to know what it is. Why wouldn’t you?

Do I care what a misanthrope used for justification for committing this vile act? No. I think he deserves the electric chair.

Along with the dad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious that no one here is interested in motive. All the fixation in this thread is on that “what” and the “how”, but no one is asking about the “why”.

That’s not science.

What motive matters? He walked into a school and shot 11 victims - killing 3.

So you don’t care about what prompted him to do that? There HAS to be a reason. I’d like to know what it is. Why wouldn’t you?

Do I care what a misanthrope used for justification for committing this vile act? No. I think he deserves the electric chair.

The reason somebody is disgruntled is separate from the fact that he had access to a gun to kill others. If he did not have a gun, no one would be dead. The issue is the lack of gun control in our country and the fact that people bow down to the second amendment as if it itself cannot be amended. Going to become the God of the GOP who seem to worship the NRA and guns.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m curious that no one here is interested in motive. All the fixation in this thread is on that “what” and the “how”, but no one is asking about the “why”.

That’s not science.

What motive matters? He walked into a school and shot 11 victims - killing 3.

So you don’t care about what prompted him to do that? There HAS to be a reason. I’d like to know what it is. Why wouldn’t you?

Do I care what a misanthrope used for justification for committing this vile act? No. I think he deserves the electric chair.

I care. It’s important to understand why people commit these crimes. I’m against the death penalty, but it’s hard to feel against it when these crimes are so heinous.

[Anonymous]

I'm not saying every parent should be aware of every little thing their kid does. But if your kid is throwing molotov cocktails in the backyard AND you bought him a personal gun - you should be charged with negligence and manslaughter if the kid uses that weapon in aggression.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Serious question - if dad purchased this gun legally, what type of “gun control” are people looking for that would have prevented this?

I think the one time this happened in Scotland, the UK responded in the way you'd expect a modern nation to respond. We'll probably get looser restrictions on conceal carry so that good guys with a gun can play action hero.

+1 proper gun control = no civilian needs a gun. If you want to shoot, go to a range. Leave it at the range.

Farmers are the only ones in the UK who are allowed to keep certain types of guns. The rest have to leave their guns at the range, where they belong.

The US is too much of a "me me me" culture to protect the public. The rights of the individual to do whatever the F* they want supercedes the rights of the public to be safe. That's also why so many in the US fight the vax mandate.

There is NEVER going to be a national law against guns in the United States. Not with the 2nd A. So why not focus on violence intervention in the communities? Maybe the bake sale moms need to start hosting weekly anti-gun and weapons gatherings with the high school age kids. Teach them there's a better way to solve their problems.

enough with the kumaya BS. You really think a bake sale by the MOMS is going to help? I mean.. why not the dads. In this case, it was the dad who bought the gun.

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Serious question - if dad purchased this gun legally, what type of “gun control” are people looking for that would have prevented this?

I think the one time this happened in Scotland, the UK responded in the way you'd expect a modern nation to respond. We'll probably get looser restrictions on conceal carry so that good guys with a gun can play action hero.

+1 proper gun control = no civilian needs a gun. If you want to shoot, go to a range. Leave it at the range.

Farmers are the only ones in the UK who are allowed to keep certain types of guns. The rest have to leave their guns at the range, where they belong.

The US is too much of a "me me me" culture to protect the public. The rights of the individual to do whatever the F* they want supercedes the rights of the public to be safe. That's also why so many in the US fight the vax mandate.

There is NEVER going to be a national law against guns in the United States. Not with the 2nd A. So why not focus on violence intervention in the communities? Maybe the bake sale moms need to start hosting weekly anti-gun and weapons gatherings with the high school age kids. Teach them there's a better way to solve their problems.

enough with the kumaya BS. You really think a bake sale by the MOMS is going to help? I mean.. why not the dads. In this case, it was the dad who bought the gun.

Its what suggested whenever there's a thread about gun violence in Chicago. Parental responsibility. Stop raising child murderers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm not saying every parent should be aware of every little thing their kid does. But if your kid is throwing molotov cocktails in the backyard AND you bought him a personal gun - you should be charged with negligence and manslaughter if the kid uses that weapon in aggression.

His father/parents should be charged for some kind of crime in this case. The more I read the more I can’t believe how complicit they are in the shopting.

[Anonymous]

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Is it even legal for a parent to buy a 15 year old a gun?
I feel like I’m living in an alternate universe.

+1 Did they run a background check on the 15 yr old? Is this another loophole? There are too many loopholes. Just ban guns for most people. That's the only way to reduce the shootings. There is *no good reason* for most of the public to own guns. Find a different hobby other than killing animals.

[Anonymous]

A number of my friends have moved to Europe. I think I will follow them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Serious question - if dad purchased this gun legally, what type of “gun control” are people looking for that would have prevented this?

I think the one time this happened in Scotland, the UK responded in the way you'd expect a modern nation to respond. We'll probably get looser restrictions on conceal carry so that good guys with a gun can play action hero.

+1 proper gun control = no civilian needs a gun. If you want to shoot, go to a range. Leave it at the range.

Farmers are the only ones in the UK who are allowed to keep certain types of guns. The rest have to leave their guns at the range, where they belong.

The US is too much of a "me me me" culture to protect the public. The rights of the individual to do whatever the F* they want supercedes the rights of the public to be safe. That's also why so many in the US fight the vax mandate.

There is NEVER going to be a national law against guns in the United States. Not with the 2nd A. So why not focus on violence intervention in the communities? Maybe the bake sale moms need to start hosting weekly anti-gun and weapons gatherings with the high school age kids. Teach them there's a better way to solve their problems.

enough with the kumaya BS. You really think a bake sale by the MOMS is going to help? I mean.. why not the dads. In this case, it was the dad who bought the gun.

Its what suggested whenever there's a thread about gun violence in Chicago. Parental responsibility. Stop raising child murderers.

how the f* is a bakesale by moms going to help? Maybe the dads should host a "how to solve conflicts without violence" since 99.99% of school shooters are committed by males. Maybe the men of this country should show the children how to resolve conflicts without violence. You think R men would be up for that? How do you suppose this guy's father resolves his conflict?

[Anonymous]

School shootings were still shocking on a national level when I was at Virginia Tech. Now there’s a level of fatigue.

I still cringe and become sad/annoyed/etc. when I see news of yet another mass shooting of any kind, but to what end? Caring doesn’t work. Ask any of my fellow classmates or the parents of victims who worked tirelessly to lobby Congress after “their” shootings. It accomplished almost nothing.

Sounds callous but why care anymore? I hope my kid doesn’t have to go through it but it’s largely out of my control.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:One of the articles said the following, noting that police specifically praised the help of the school SRO. Please bring them back.

“The suspected shooter, a sophomore at the school, was arrested within five minutes of the original call, police said and added an on-scene school resource officer assisted in nabbing him.”

Only 3 dead kids is a success?

Better than Parkland where the SRO hid outside.