Federal judge rules that admissions changes at nation’s top public school discriminate against Asian

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.

20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

Ok. Start reaching out to Asian applicants for those positions and contracts.

Lol, I left the DMV area when leaving for college years, years ago. It’s mental health issue. These threads sometimes reminds me what I was thinking when I left that place behind.

Hope you were able to find a healthier environment for yourself.

This world is bigger than you imagine.

Yes, far more external agitators than I ever could have imagined.

I guess GOP wedge issues bring the trolls out from under their various rocks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.

20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

If you want to apply quotas ensuring that the percentage of Asian Americans in various positions reflects the countywide population, are you willing to apply that logic to the percentage of Asian American students at TJ?

I'll bet not......

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.

20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

If you want to apply quotas ensuring that the percentage of Asian Americans in various positions reflects the countywide population, are you willing to apply that logic to the percentage of Asian American students at TJ?

Absolutely. 100%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.

20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

If you want to apply quotas ensuring that the percentage of Asian Americans in various positions reflects the countywide population, are you willing to apply that logic to the percentage of Asian American students at TJ?

Absolutely. 100%.

That would result in a loss of about 200 Asian students per year at TJ.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.

20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

If you want to apply quotas ensuring that the percentage of Asian Americans in various positions reflects the countywide population, are you willing to apply that logic to the percentage of Asian American students at TJ?

Absolutely. 100%.

Me too.
Not that I believe that would ever be ok with the pro-reform crowd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.

20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

If you want to apply quotas ensuring that the percentage of Asian Americans in various positions reflects the countywide population, are you willing to apply that logic to the percentage of Asian American students at TJ?

Absolutely. 100%.

That would result in a loss of about 200 Asian students per year at TJ.

I imagine you did that calculation in your head. here's a Phd for you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.

20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

If you want to apply quotas ensuring that the percentage of Asian Americans in various positions reflects the countywide population, are you willing to apply that logic to the percentage of Asian American students at TJ?

Absolutely. 100%.

That would result in a loss of about 200 Asian students per year at TJ.

I imagine you did that calculation in your head. here's a Phd for you

A social engg phd no less

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.

20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

If you want to apply quotas ensuring that the percentage of Asian Americans in various positions reflects the countywide population, are you willing to apply that logic to the percentage of Asian American students at TJ?

Absolutely. 100%.

Me too.
Not that I believe that would ever be ok with the pro-reform crowd.

Do you think that most (any) county wide positions are coveted? Most are desperate to hire anyone willing to take the job.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.

20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

If you want to apply quotas ensuring that the percentage of Asian Americans in various positions reflects the countywide population, are you willing to apply that logic to the percentage of Asian American students at TJ?

Absolutely. 100%.

That would result in a loss of about 200 Asian students per year at TJ.

Political, judicial, administrative including educational policies (plus jobs) are more important than 1 magnet high school. Besides, arguing for 70% Asian at TJ while arguing for 20% for everything else is hypocritical like the LWNJs on here. I am not a hypocrite.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.

20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

If you want to apply quotas ensuring that the percentage of Asian Americans in various positions reflects the countywide population, are you willing to apply that logic to the percentage of Asian American students at TJ?

Absolutely. 100%.

That would result in a loss of about 200 Asian students per year at TJ.

Political, judicial, administrative including educational policies (plus jobs) are more important than 1 magnet high school. Besides, arguing for 70% Asian at TJ while arguing for 20% for everything else is hypocritical like the LWNJs on here. I am not a hypocrite.

These LWNJs don't give a rat's ass when Asians are under-represented, even if extremely under-represented which is the case for all "coveted" "important" positions but they scream bloody murder when Asians are over-represented at TJ.

[Anonymous]

Sorry for stating the obvious but why can’t changes be made to the elementary and middle schools in areas with high populations of low income and/or Black and Hispanic people to increases achievement or those kids. Increase the school day, open on weekends and the current holidays. Instead of adding remedial tracks to TJ, add advanced and earlier remedial classes for younger kids.

Add diverse college level books to the curriculum. There was a recent movie, judas and the black messiah, about Fred Hampton that won Oscars. Rich civic lesson plans on the topic write themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Sorry for stating the obvious but why can’t changes be made to the elementary and middle schools in areas with high populations of low income and/or Black and Hispanic people to increases achievement or those kids. Increase the school day, open on weekends and the current holidays. Instead of adding remedial tracks to TJ, add advanced and earlier remedial classes for younger kids.

Add diverse college level books to the curriculum. There was a recent movie, judas and the black messiah, about Fred Hampton that won Oscars. Rich civic lesson plans on the topic write themselves.

The schools, teacher, curriculum, are not the problem. They're not the answer, either.

Adding in additional points for students from historically underrespresented schools doesn't really make sense for a magnet school. Geographic diversity can be problematic for various reasons but it's not unconstitutional, even though some posters seem to dislike it.

[Anonymous]

Every child is able to find passion for a topic that interests them. I went to a predominately white working class high school and I honestly can’t think of one kid who I didn’t see invested in at least one assignment even if their grades overall where at or below average.

Human beings are built to be engaged in something.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.

20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

If you want to apply quotas ensuring that the percentage of Asian Americans in various positions reflects the countywide population, are you willing to apply that logic to the percentage of Asian American students at TJ?

Absolutely. 100%.

That would result in a loss of about 200 Asian students per year at TJ.

Political, judicial, administrative including educational policies (plus jobs) are more important than 1 magnet high school. Besides, arguing for 70% Asian at TJ while arguing for 20% for everything else is hypocritical like the LWNJs on here. I am not a hypocrite.

These LWNJs don't give a rat's ass when Asians are under-represented, even if extremely under-represented which is the case for all "coveted" "important" positions but they scream bloody murder when Asians are over-represented at TJ.

No, they don't. They tend to be more educated than the folks they're arguing against and by and large they do not care about the representation level for Asians, but they are intelligent enough to know that when you try to open access to groups that have been historically shut out of TJ (Black, Hispanic, and low-income students), and you have another group that dominates the school (Asians), solving the problem is likely going to mean that the dominant group is going to be impacted the most.

That fact that it IMPACTS you doesn't make it ABOUT you - and that's the thrust of the language in the stay request and, I imagine, the appeal, when they talk about FCPS's desire to adopt a new process not "because of" its impact on the Asian population but rather "in spite of". It's their strongest and most well-supported legal argument and carries tons of precedent with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:In addition, 20% of the FCPS teachers must be Asian to properly reflect the student population. 20% of the County employees must be Asians to reflect the demographics of the County.

20% of the County contracts and grants must go to Asians and Asian groups. It is not equitable that virtually 0% goes to Asians and Asian groups.

If you want to apply quotas ensuring that the percentage of Asian Americans in various positions reflects the countywide population, are you willing to apply that logic to the percentage of Asian American students at TJ?

Absolutely. 100%.

That would result in a loss of about 200 Asian students per year at TJ.

Political, judicial, administrative including educational policies (plus jobs) are more important than 1 magnet high school. Besides, arguing for 70% Asian at TJ while arguing for 20% for everything else is hypocritical like the LWNJs on here. I am not a hypocrite.

These LWNJs don't give a rat's ass when Asians are under-represented, even if extremely under-represented which is the case for all "coveted" "important" positions but they scream bloody murder when Asians are over-represented at TJ.

Yeah let's make a deal. If democrats give 20% of CEO positions for companies in Fairfax county, then they have a deal cutting TJ's Asians to be 20%.