If the county isn't allowed to placed a mask mandate in the classroom

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Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.

Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?


It's following Virginia law and CDC recommendations. The courts will decide which is correct--the executive order or Virginia law. Over a dozen VA counties are not following Youngkin's executive order.


How does the executive order conflict with VA law?


It’s up for debate.

Competing with the executive order is Senate Bill 1303, which is on the books as Virginia law.

That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to students and follow CDC recommendations to the maximum extent practicable, which includes wearing masks.


https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/attorney-on-youngkin-school-mask-order-virginia/291-e162fefc-d223-4eee-9950-722d92a7b1b6




I get the context, but can anyone point to where a CDC order REQUIRES masks in school? Everything I've seen is that the CDC RECOMMENDS masks in schools, so how would there be any conflict between the VA law and the EO is the schools RECOMMEND masks, but leave it up to parents decisions? Am I missing something?


It’s not your decision, it’s FCPS. If you want to remove the mandate, contact the SB, the superintendent…or sue. Your sole choices are limited to public education, private education, or homeschool. If you CHOOSE public, then you follow their rules.


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Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.

Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?


It's following Virginia law and CDC recommendations. The courts will decide which is correct--the executive order or Virginia law. Over a dozen VA counties are not following Youngkin's executive order.


How does the executive order conflict with VA law?


It’s up for debate.

Competing with the executive order is Senate Bill 1303, which is on the books as Virginia law.

That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to students and follow CDC recommendations to the maximum extent practicable, which includes wearing masks.


https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/attorney-on-youngkin-school-mask-order-virginia/291-e162fefc-d223-4eee-9950-722d92a7b1b6




I get the context, but can anyone point to where a CDC order REQUIRES masks in school? Everything I've seen is that the CDC RECOMMENDS masks in schools, so how would there be any conflict between the VA law and the EO is the schools RECOMMEND masks, but leave it up to parents decisions? Am I missing something?


The CDC as an organization makes recommendation, and requires very little; but masks are listed as a mitigation strategy so per SB1303 “maximum extend possible” it still stands.


I agree, but the law says “practicable” not “possible”, so there is a difference that could come into play when people say they aren’t following all recommendations.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.

Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?


It's following Virginia law and CDC recommendations. The courts will decide which is correct--the executive order or Virginia law. Over a dozen VA counties are not following Youngkin's executive order.


How does the executive order conflict with VA law?


It’s up for debate.

Competing with the executive order is Senate Bill 1303, which is on the books as Virginia law.

That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to students and follow CDC recommendations to the maximum extent practicable, which includes wearing masks.


https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/attorney-on-youngkin-school-mask-order-virginia/291-e162fefc-d223-4eee-9950-722d92a7b1b6




I get the context, but can anyone point to where a CDC order REQUIRES masks in school? Everything I've seen is that the CDC RECOMMENDS masks in schools, so how would there be any conflict between the VA law and the EO is the schools RECOMMEND masks, but leave it up to parents decisions? Am I missing something?


The view is that state law requires districts to follow those recommendations to the greatest extent practicable. So if it is a recommendation (ex masking) they are supposed to follow it.


But if the county's mandates are exactly aligned with CDC's, their policy should be to recommend.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.

Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?


It's following Virginia law and CDC recommendations. The courts will decide which is correct--the executive order or Virginia law. Over a dozen VA counties are not following Youngkin's executive order.


How does the executive order conflict with VA law?


It’s up for debate.

Competing with the executive order is Senate Bill 1303, which is on the books as Virginia law.

That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to students and follow CDC recommendations to the maximum extent practicable, which includes wearing masks.


https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/attorney-on-youngkin-school-mask-order-virginia/291-e162fefc-d223-4eee-9950-722d92a7b1b6




I get the context, but can anyone point to where a CDC order REQUIRES masks in school? Everything I've seen is that the CDC RECOMMENDS masks in schools, so how would there be any conflict between the VA law and the EO is the schools RECOMMEND masks, but leave it up to parents decisions? Am I missing something?


The CDC as an organization makes recommendation, and requires very little; but masks are listed as a mitigation strategy so per SB1303 “maximum extend possible” it still stands.


They have other recommendations that FCPS isn't following. Why some and not others?
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Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.

Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?


It's following Virginia law and CDC recommendations. The courts will decide which is correct--the executive order or Virginia law. Over a dozen VA counties are not following Youngkin's executive order.


How does the executive order conflict with VA law?


It’s up for debate.

Competing with the executive order is Senate Bill 1303, which is on the books as Virginia law.

That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to students and follow CDC recommendations to the maximum extent practicable, which includes wearing masks.


https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/attorney-on-youngkin-school-mask-order-virginia/291-e162fefc-d223-4eee-9950-722d92a7b1b6




I get the context, but can anyone point to where a CDC order REQUIRES masks in school? Everything I've seen is that the CDC RECOMMENDS masks in schools, so how would there be any conflict between the VA law and the EO is the schools RECOMMEND masks, but leave it up to parents decisions? Am I missing something?


The CDC as an organization makes recommendation, and requires very little; but masks are listed as a mitigation strategy so per SB1303 “maximum extend possible” it still stands.


They have other recommendations that FCPS isn't following. Why some and not others?


It might not be practicable.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.

Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?


It's following Virginia law and CDC recommendations. The courts will decide which is correct--the executive order or Virginia law. Over a dozen VA counties are not following Youngkin's executive order.


How does the executive order conflict with VA law?


It’s up for debate.

Competing with the executive order is Senate Bill 1303, which is on the books as Virginia law.

That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to students and follow CDC recommendations to the maximum extent practicable, which includes wearing masks.


https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/attorney-on-youngkin-school-mask-order-virginia/291-e162fefc-d223-4eee-9950-722d92a7b1b6




I get the context, but can anyone point to where a CDC order REQUIRES masks in school? Everything I've seen is that the CDC RECOMMENDS masks in schools, so how would there be any conflict between the VA law and the EO is the schools RECOMMEND masks, but leave it up to parents decisions? Am I missing something?


The view is that state law requires districts to follow those recommendations to the greatest extent practicable. So if it is a recommendation (ex masking) they are supposed to follow it.


But if the county's mandates are exactly aligned with CDC's, their policy should be to recommend.


No. That’s not what 1303 says.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.

Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?


It's following Virginia law and CDC recommendations. The courts will decide which is correct--the executive order or Virginia law. Over a dozen VA counties are not following Youngkin's executive order.


How does the executive order conflict with VA law?


It’s up for debate.

Competing with the executive order is Senate Bill 1303, which is on the books as Virginia law.

That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to students and follow CDC recommendations to the maximum extent practicable, which includes wearing masks.


https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/attorney-on-youngkin-school-mask-order-virginia/291-e162fefc-d223-4eee-9950-722d92a7b1b6




I get the context, but can anyone point to where a CDC order REQUIRES masks in school? Everything I've seen is that the CDC RECOMMENDS masks in schools, so how would there be any conflict between the VA law and the EO is the schools RECOMMEND masks, but leave it up to parents decisions? Am I missing something?


The CDC as an organization makes recommendation, and requires very little; but masks are listed as a mitigation strategy so per SB1303 “maximum extend possible” it still stands.


They have other recommendations that FCPS isn't following. Why some and not others?


This has been hashed out in the past 81 pages and SB meetings, go take a look there. Ultimately, those decisions are up to them.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.

Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?


It's following Virginia law and CDC recommendations. The courts will decide which is correct--the executive order or Virginia law. Over a dozen VA counties are not following Youngkin's executive order.


How does the executive order conflict with VA law?


It’s up for debate.

Competing with the executive order is Senate Bill 1303, which is on the books as Virginia law.

That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to students and follow CDC recommendations to the maximum extent practicable, which includes wearing masks.


https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/attorney-on-youngkin-school-mask-order-virginia/291-e162fefc-d223-4eee-9950-722d92a7b1b6




I get the context, but can anyone point to where a CDC order REQUIRES masks in school? Everything I've seen is that the CDC RECOMMENDS masks in schools, so how would there be any conflict between the VA law and the EO is the schools RECOMMEND masks, but leave it up to parents decisions? Am I missing something?


The CDC as an organization makes recommendation, and requires very little; but masks are listed as a mitigation strategy so per SB1303 “maximum extend possible” it still stands.


I agree, but the law says “practicable” not “possible”, so there is a difference that could come into play when people say they aren’t following all recommendations.


Wearing masks is very practicable, we’ve been doing it for almost a year in school.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.

Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?


It's following Virginia law and CDC recommendations. The courts will decide which is correct--the executive order or Virginia law. Over a dozen VA counties are not following Youngkin's executive order.


How does the executive order conflict with VA law?


It’s up for debate.

Competing with the executive order is Senate Bill 1303, which is on the books as Virginia law.

That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to students and follow CDC recommendations to the maximum extent practicable, which includes wearing masks.


https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/attorney-on-youngkin-school-mask-order-virginia/291-e162fefc-d223-4eee-9950-722d92a7b1b6




I get the context, but can anyone point to where a CDC order REQUIRES masks in school? Everything I've seen is that the CDC RECOMMENDS masks in schools, so how would there be any conflict between the VA law and the EO is the schools RECOMMEND masks, but leave it up to parents decisions? Am I missing something?


The view is that state law requires districts to follow those recommendations to the greatest extent practicable. So if it is a recommendation (ex masking) they are supposed to follow it.


But if the county's mandates are exactly aligned with CDC's, their policy should be to recommend.


They don’t need to be aligned, the use CDC and VDH or guidance to make decisions.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.

Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?


It's following Virginia law and CDC recommendations. The courts will decide which is correct--the executive order or Virginia law. Over a dozen VA counties are not following Youngkin's executive order.


How does the executive order conflict with VA law?


It’s up for debate.

Competing with the executive order is Senate Bill 1303, which is on the books as Virginia law.

That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to students and follow CDC recommendations to the maximum extent practicable, which includes wearing masks.


https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/attorney-on-youngkin-school-mask-order-virginia/291-e162fefc-d223-4eee-9950-722d92a7b1b6




I get the context, but can anyone point to where a CDC order REQUIRES masks in school? Everything I've seen is that the CDC RECOMMENDS masks in schools, so how would there be any conflict between the VA law and the EO is the schools RECOMMEND masks, but leave it up to parents decisions? Am I missing something?


The CDC as an organization makes recommendation, and requires very little; but masks are listed as a mitigation strategy so per SB1303 “maximum extend possible” it still stands.


I agree, but the law says “practicable” not “possible”, so there is a difference that could come into play when people say they aren’t following all recommendations.


Wearing masks is very practicable, we’ve been doing it for almost a year in school.


PP here. Yes. That’s what I’m saying. So when people say “Well, they aren’t following every recommendation to a T”, it’s because not every recommendation is as practicable.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.

Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?


It's following Virginia law and CDC recommendations. The courts will decide which is correct--the executive order or Virginia law. Over a dozen VA counties are not following Youngkin's executive order.


How does the executive order conflict with VA law?


It’s up for debate.

Competing with the executive order is Senate Bill 1303, which is on the books as Virginia law.

That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to students and follow CDC recommendations to the maximum extent practicable, which includes wearing masks.


https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/attorney-on-youngkin-school-mask-order-virginia/291-e162fefc-d223-4eee-9950-722d92a7b1b6




I get the context, but can anyone point to where a CDC order REQUIRES masks in school? Everything I've seen is that the CDC RECOMMENDS masks in schools, so how would there be any conflict between the VA law and the EO is the schools RECOMMEND masks, but leave it up to parents decisions? Am I missing something?


The view is that state law requires districts to follow those recommendations to the greatest extent practicable. So if it is a recommendation (ex masking) they are supposed to follow it.


But if the county's mandates are exactly aligned with CDC's, their policy should be to recommend.


They don’t need to be aligned, the use CDC and VDH or guidance to make decisions.


And if it's recommended, the school can require it. That's the way it works.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.

Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?


It's following Virginia law and CDC recommendations. The courts will decide which is correct--the executive order or Virginia law. Over a dozen VA counties are not following Youngkin's executive order.


How does the executive order conflict with VA law?


It’s up for debate.

Competing with the executive order is Senate Bill 1303, which is on the books as Virginia law.

That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to students and follow CDC recommendations to the maximum extent practicable, which includes wearing masks.


https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/attorney-on-youngkin-school-mask-order-virginia/291-e162fefc-d223-4eee-9950-722d92a7b1b6




I get the context, but can anyone point to where a CDC order REQUIRES masks in school? Everything I've seen is that the CDC RECOMMENDS masks in schools, so how would there be any conflict between the VA law and the EO is the schools RECOMMEND masks, but leave it up to parents decisions? Am I missing something?


The CDC as an organization makes recommendation, and requires very little; but masks are listed as a mitigation strategy so per SB1303 “maximum extend possible” it still stands.


I agree, but the law says “practicable” not “possible”, so there is a difference that could come into play when people say they aren’t following all recommendations.


Wearing masks is very practicable, we’ve been doing it for almost a year in school.


PP here. Yes. That’s what I’m saying. So when people say “Well, they aren’t following every recommendation to a T”, it’s because not every recommendation is as practicable.


Not having sports/activities is more practicable than making everyone wear masks.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.

Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?


It's following Virginia law and CDC recommendations. The courts will decide which is correct--the executive order or Virginia law. Over a dozen VA counties are not following Youngkin's executive order.


How does the executive order conflict with VA law?


It’s up for debate.

Competing with the executive order is Senate Bill 1303, which is on the books as Virginia law.

That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to students and follow CDC recommendations to the maximum extent practicable, which includes wearing masks.


https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/attorney-on-youngkin-school-mask-order-virginia/291-e162fefc-d223-4eee-9950-722d92a7b1b6




I get the context, but can anyone point to where a CDC order REQUIRES masks in school? Everything I've seen is that the CDC RECOMMENDS masks in schools, so how would there be any conflict between the VA law and the EO is the schools RECOMMEND masks, but leave it up to parents decisions? Am I missing something?


The CDC as an organization makes recommendation, and requires very little; but masks are listed as a mitigation strategy so per SB1303 “maximum extend possible” it still stands.


I agree, but the law says “practicable” not “possible”, so there is a difference that could come into play when people say they aren’t following all recommendations.


Wearing masks is very practicable, we’ve been doing it for almost a year in school.


PP here. Yes. That’s what I’m saying. So when people say “Well, they aren’t following every recommendation to a T”, it’s because not every recommendation is as practicable.


Not having sports/activities is more practicable than making everyone wear masks.


By definition, no. They are both possible but masks are much more practicable than canceling everything but the 3 Rs.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.

Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?


It's following Virginia law and CDC recommendations. The courts will decide which is correct--the executive order or Virginia law. Over a dozen VA counties are not following Youngkin's executive order.


How does the executive order conflict with VA law?


It’s up for debate.

Competing with the executive order is Senate Bill 1303, which is on the books as Virginia law.

That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to students and follow CDC recommendations to the maximum extent practicable, which includes wearing masks.


https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/attorney-on-youngkin-school-mask-order-virginia/291-e162fefc-d223-4eee-9950-722d92a7b1b6




I get the context, but can anyone point to where a CDC order REQUIRES masks in school? Everything I've seen is that the CDC RECOMMENDS masks in schools, so how would there be any conflict between the VA law and the EO is the schools RECOMMEND masks, but leave it up to parents decisions? Am I missing something?


The CDC as an organization makes recommendation, and requires very little; but masks are listed as a mitigation strategy so per SB1303 “maximum extend possible” it still stands.


I agree, but the law says “practicable” not “possible”, so there is a difference that could come into play when people say they aren’t following all recommendations.


Wearing masks is very practicable, we’ve been doing it for almost a year in school.


PP here. Yes. That’s what I’m saying. So when people say “Well, they aren’t following every recommendation to a T”, it’s because not every recommendation is as practicable.


Not having sports/activities is more practicable than making everyone wear masks.


They will never do that as it could affect future scholarships/admissions for students.
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Anonymous wrote:Why is FCPS not following state orders? Let kids choose to wear or not wear mask. My kids will wear their masks. We don’t care if others wear their masks or not.

Why does FCPS continue to defy the will of the people of Virginia?


It's following Virginia law and CDC recommendations. The courts will decide which is correct--the executive order or Virginia law. Over a dozen VA counties are not following Youngkin's executive order.


How does the executive order conflict with VA law?


It’s up for debate.

Competing with the executive order is Senate Bill 1303, which is on the books as Virginia law.

That law requires school boards to offer in-person instruction to students and follow CDC recommendations to the maximum extent practicable, which includes wearing masks.


https://www.13newsnow.com/amp/article/news/health/coronavirus/attorney-on-youngkin-school-mask-order-virginia/291-e162fefc-d223-4eee-9950-722d92a7b1b6




I get the context, but can anyone point to where a CDC order REQUIRES masks in school? Everything I've seen is that the CDC RECOMMENDS masks in schools, so how would there be any conflict between the VA law and the EO is the schools RECOMMEND masks, but leave it up to parents decisions? Am I missing something?


The CDC as an organization makes recommendation, and requires very little; but masks are listed as a mitigation strategy so per SB1303 “maximum extend possible” it still stands.


I agree, but the law says “practicable” not “possible”, so there is a difference that could come into play when people say they aren’t following all recommendations.


Wearing masks is very practicable, we’ve been doing it for almost a year in school.


PP here. Yes. That’s what I’m saying. So when people say “Well, they aren’t following every recommendation to a T”, it’s because not every recommendation is as practicable.


Not having sports/activities is more practicable than making everyone wear masks.


It’s the other way around.
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