The only issue is the death rate is higher for vaccinated but we don't know why yet. Perhaps age. |
That's a good thing to ponder. |
Welcome to the Conservative party. |
We just attended 3 MLB games with attendance around 17,000, but it was outdoors. We are vaccinated and masks weren’t required. |
But there is no shaping of narrative. |
Disappointing. Hospitalization data (for the US at least) is the most relevant and accurate in real time. Case numbers depend a lot on how much testing is being done and on testing cycle thresholds (for PCR tests), and death reporting gets backed up so that reported deaths on a given day typically include deaths from days/weeks/months earlier. US hospitalization data in real time has ended up tracking deaths/etc very, very well. |
Adding on to previous: hospitalizations across countries can be found at www.ourworldindata.org.
UK hospitalizations are up about 50% in the "delta" wave (mid-May to yesterday) whereas cases were up about 4x over the same period. |
Wow 9 pages same debate for months now.
Bottom line red states lying about numbers, red states infections up. Do you people. Mind your own business, you don't want to mask (noninvasive for all the idiot anti vaxers). They do put on shoes and pants daily, LOL. If the Trumpers anti vaxers do not want to not be careful fine. Less red voters (yes no empathy here for idiots at this point in time) won't be in my orbit. We employ hundreds either vax or you are fired period. Sue us, we will win. Already have. |
I don't care about politics but do care about critical thinking. |
You do know there are many non Trumpers, non conservatives who are vaxxed and go around mask less not super concerned about the Delta variant or any other variants.... Right? I thought we were done with posts like yours who don't bring anything to any type of intelligent conversation |
Bingo. Then Delta fear mongering is propaganda or else why in the world this be allowed? They wouldn't put MLB profits above our health and barely open schools if they allow full NHLS rinks, right? That wouldn't make sense now would it? |
Yup |
Never stopped. Can't be too cautious, if it's not Delta it will be the next one that hasn't been named. |
Can't stop, won't stop. |
Thank you. These types of statements that vaccinated people who believe in the immunity conferred by vaccines choose not wear masks are somehow Trumpers is really harmful to the public discourse and stopping the single minded focus on COVID. As you can see from this forum, there are tons and tons of people who have been fully vaccinated living in fear with misunderstanding of vaccines. |