Any word on the new NVSL rules for the summer?

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Anonymous wrote:Is there any chance this can change? Meets don’t start for a few weeks...


Aren’t we jumping the gun? They haven’t sent out any update yet.


It isn’t out officially but they’ve already met, made the decision and reps have been told.


I’m a team rep and haven’t heard or read any updates. Where did other reps hear? Email? Division coordinator?

Any news about individual all-stars, all-star relays, Divisionals...?


Apparently All-Star Relays were nixed. Any other meets from what you’ve heard?


The calendar on the NVSL website right now just has the 5 dual meets, nothing else. Hopefully that's not final.


Nothing is final yet. Talk to your reps. They are not sure if they can do all-star relays because of deck spacing. The NVSL board thought if we can’t do All-Star relays they would also cancel divisional relays. People need to speak up. The small board is deciding all these things without the division coordinators talking to their team reps. At minimum, it should be decided division by division of you have a host pool that is big enough and willing to host divisional relays.


Coordinators are asking their team reps right now for their input before voting on masking.

The part in bold isn’t true.
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Anonymous wrote:Not everyone in swim is “wear mask “ forever and I know people who might say no to their kid swimming if forced to wear a mask.


Do you know anyone who is?


If I know people still wearing masks while vaccinated, then yes.


Masks are still required many places, and general mandates were just dropped. Continuing to mask right now doesn’t mean that someone intends to “forever.”


Where are masks required outdoors?


Elementary school recess.
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Anonymous wrote:Is there any chance this can change? Meets don’t start for a few weeks...


Aren’t we jumping the gun? They haven’t sent out any update yet.


It isn’t out officially but they’ve already met, made the decision and reps have been told.


I’m a team rep and haven’t heard or read any updates. Where did other reps hear? Email? Division coordinator?

Any news about individual all-stars, all-star relays, Divisionals...?


Apparently All-Star Relays were nixed. Any other meets from what you’ve heard?


The calendar on the NVSL website right now just has the 5 dual meets, nothing else. Hopefully that's not final.


Nothing is final yet. Talk to your reps. They are not sure if they can do all-star relays because of deck spacing. The NVSL board thought if we can’t do All-Star relays they would also cancel divisional relays. People need to speak up. The small board is deciding all these things without the division coordinators talking to their team reps. At minimum, it should be decided division by division of you have a host pool that is big enough and willing to host divisional relays.


Coordinators are asking their team reps right now for their input before voting on masking.

The part in bold isn’t true.


The part in bold is what our division coordinator told our division reps. A division could still hold relay carnivals, but it would be unsanctioned.
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*told our team reps.
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Anonymous wrote:This is the strangest thread. My kids have been masking on deck for months with no complaints. Yes, it might get a little damp; it has worked. I don’t mind masking on deck and I don’t mind doing it for hours. I am vaccinated. I care about unvaccinated kids.

I know of at least a handful of breakthrough cases. Masking is just not a big deal and it gives my family (two high risk adults, two unvaccinated kids) peace of mind. I really do not understand the hysteria over it.


Because it does not follow science to mandate masks outside. The risk of transmission is extremely low.


If you personally aren’t comfortable with reasonable requirements (and masks outdoors at a swim meet are unreasonable and pointless), then you need to personally choose not to participate.


Exactly.


I reject this entirely.

Yes, outdoor transmission is low. Outdoor transmission on pool decks 6 inches from each other is not what those studies are based upon. Close contact but outdoors is still close contact.


Close contact has to be for a prolonged time with the same person. Adults on deck are not next to swimmers for more than 15 minutes. And if you reject this, than don’t participate. Or you and your child can wear a mask.


And when the NVSL requires masks on deck you feel free to do the same.
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Anonymous wrote:Not everyone in swim is “wear mask “ forever and I know people who might say no to their kid swimming if forced to wear a mask.


Do you know anyone who is?


If I know people still wearing masks while vaccinated, then yes.


Masks are still required many places, and general mandates were just dropped. Continuing to mask right now doesn’t mean that someone intends to “forever.”


Where are masks required outdoors?


Elementary school recess.


Plus many other places where unvaccinated people are in close contact for prolonged periods of time. Like swim meets.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is there any chance this can change? Meets don’t start for a few weeks...


Aren’t we jumping the gun? They haven’t sent out any update yet.


It isn’t out officially but they’ve already met, made the decision and reps have been told.


I’m a team rep and haven’t heard or read any updates. Where did other reps hear? Email? Division coordinator?

Any news about individual all-stars, all-star relays, Divisionals...?


Apparently All-Star Relays were nixed. Any other meets from what you’ve heard?


The calendar on the NVSL website right now just has the 5 dual meets, nothing else. Hopefully that's not final.


Nothing is final yet. Talk to your reps. They are not sure if they can do all-star relays because of deck spacing. The NVSL board thought if we can’t do All-Star relays they would also cancel divisional relays. People need to speak up. The small board is deciding all these things without the division coordinators talking to their team reps. At minimum, it should be decided division by division of you have a host pool that is big enough and willing to host divisional relays.


Coordinators are asking their team reps right now for their input before voting on masking.

The part in bold isn’t true.


The part in bold is what our division coordinator told our division reps. A division could still hold relay carnivals, but it would be unsanctioned.


Your DC has an incorrect understanding.it was never said in any discussion that divisional relays would be canceled if All-Star Relays were canceled.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is there any chance this can change? Meets don’t start for a few weeks...


Aren’t we jumping the gun? They haven’t sent out any update yet.


It isn’t out officially but they’ve already met, made the decision and reps have been told.


I’m a team rep and haven’t heard or read any updates. Where did other reps hear? Email? Division coordinator?

Any news about individual all-stars, all-star relays, Divisionals...?


Apparently All-Star Relays were nixed. Any other meets from what you’ve heard?


The calendar on the NVSL website right now just has the 5 dual meets, nothing else. Hopefully that's not final.


Nothing is final yet. Talk to your reps. They are not sure if they can do all-star relays because of deck spacing. The NVSL board thought if we can’t do All-Star relays they would also cancel divisional relays. People need to speak up. The small board is deciding all these things without the division coordinators talking to their team reps. At minimum, it should be decided division by division of you have a host pool that is big enough and willing to host divisional relays.


Hamlet was going to host All-Star Relays. Anybody here at Hamlet?
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Why can’t people choose if they want masks or not? I see plenty of people still wearing them. So if you want to wear them or want your kids to wear them, fine. If you don’t, that’s fine too and actually in line with latest state guidance where it’s NOT required.

Regardless of vote, can it also be a mutual decision between reps when exchanging meet sheets on Thursday? Come to an agreement about not requiring them or leaving it up to parents or what not.
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Coordinators are asking their team reps right now for their input before voting on masking.

The part in bold isn’t true.

The part in bold is what our division coordinator told our division reps. A division could still hold relay carnivals, but it would be unsanctioned.

Your DC has an incorrect understanding.it was never said in any discussion that divisional relays would be canceled if All-Star Relays were canceled.

Good news! Thank you!
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Anonymous wrote:This is the strangest thread. My kids have been masking on deck for months with no complaints. Yes, it might get a little damp; it has worked. I don’t mind masking on deck and I don’t mind doing it for hours. I am vaccinated. I care about unvaccinated kids.

I know of at least a handful of breakthrough cases. Masking is just not a big deal and it gives my family (two high risk adults, two unvaccinated kids) peace of mind. I really do not understand the hysteria over it.


Because it does not follow science to mandate masks outside. The risk of transmission is extremely low.


If you personally aren’t comfortable with reasonable requirements (and masks outdoors at a swim meet are unreasonable and pointless), then you need to personally choose not to participate.


Exactly.


I reject this entirely.

Yes, outdoor transmission is low. Outdoor transmission on pool decks 6 inches from each other is not what those studies are based upon. Close contact but outdoors is still close contact. [/quote
Outdoor transmission is not “low”, it is virtually nonexistent.
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Anonymous wrote:Why can’t people choose if they want masks or not? I see plenty of people still wearing them. So if you want to wear them or want your kids to wear them, fine. If you don’t, that’s fine too and actually in line with latest state guidance where it’s NOT required.

Regardless of vote, can it also be a mutual decision between reps when exchanging meet sheets on Thursday? Come to an agreement about not requiring them or leaving it up to parents or what not.


I agree with letting people choose for themselves whether to wear masks. Or people can choose not to participate. Requiring masks outdoors is asinine
and anti-science and honestly, cruel to the kids. Our B meets have gone for six hours at small pools in 90 heat.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is the strangest thread. My kids have been masking on deck for months with no complaints. Yes, it might get a little damp; it has worked. I don’t mind masking on deck and I don’t mind doing it for hours. I am vaccinated. I care about unvaccinated kids.

I know of at least a handful of breakthrough cases. Masking is just not a big deal and it gives my family (two high risk adults, two unvaccinated kids) peace of mind. I really do not understand the hysteria over it.


Because it does not follow science to mandate masks outside. The risk of transmission is extremely low.


If you personally aren’t comfortable with reasonable requirements (and masks outdoors at a swim meet are unreasonable and pointless), then you need to personally choose not to participate.


Exactly.


I reject this entirely.

Yes, outdoor transmission is low. Outdoor transmission on pool decks 6 inches from each other is not what those studies are based upon. Close contact but outdoors is still close contact.


You are entirely missing the point that masks are not required at practice or B meets or anywhere else so it does no good to require them on Sat mornings also. They kids are already in close contact with each other all week
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Should be a choice for everyone
Anonymous
Our pool was wonderful today. No distancing, no masks. Socializing!!

It will be hard to get people to wear masks for meets when they aren’t wearing them to swim and socialize for fun.
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