Any word on the new NVSL rules for the summer?

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Anonymous wrote:Dear Pandemic on Facebook has a page today about outdoor transmission and unvaccinated kids. You all may want to review it.

I assume most of you posting here are okay with your kids getting COVID. It’s pretty easy to avoid with distance or masking, and we don’t know what it looks like long term, so I am not personally okay taking that risk for my kids who are too young to be vaccinated. If a little mask or stepping back from a team area diminishes the risk, they are happy with that and so am I. For us, this is a better long term plan.

And for the person who said my kids couldn’t do sports unless I got okay with close contact unmasked kids - gfy, seriously.

That was me. Your kids can do sports and can choose to mask, but don’t expect other kids to mask or distance. As parents, we have made risk-benefit analysis for our own kids. Normal summer with cheering, tackling friends, hugs, etc is more important than the tiny, almost non-existent risk they get Covid outside with almost zero community spread. Leagues - in many sports - do not require masks. Participate or don’t.

This is me again. Go for it. Don’t expect other kids to take on your risk assessment; don’t expect all kids to embrace yours knowing how you throw caution to the wind. Expect a little judgement tossed your way because other kids don’t need to take on your risks, and they damn well can participate in the safest way they know how. Who are you to dictate how others participate? I never said others needed to mask; I said my own kids mask or distance.

DP. Why are you posting here if you don’t care what others do? If you want your kids to mask and distance when participating in sports, then do it and be quiet about it. Judging people who are handling things differently is a waste of your energy. We live in a highly educated area. Many people are looking at the extremely low community spread and using that to make their determinations. You are going to make yourself miserable getting worked up about other people coming to different conclusions than you. It’s not January 2020 anymore. You are probably judging people who took many of the same precautions as you did a few months ago. If you’re not careful you are going to alienate people who you might wish you hadn’t long after this is over.

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I’m on our club’s board. I’m not one who has bee ultra cautious, but I’ve followed rules in place, I’m vaccinated and typically masked now. I went to the B meet Monday and I’ll admit I came away slightly concerned due to the tightness on deck and knowing how many people (Team rep, assistant team rep, referee, on duty pool-op, person grilling, 2 of 4 assistant coaches, some timers) in addition to the 11 and under crowd are not vaccinated. I am reassured by low community numbers and the fact they are outdoors.

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PP here. That should read “typically unmasked now”. Big difference. 😊

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on our club’s board. I’m not one who has bee ultra cautious, but I’ve followed rules in place, I’m vaccinated and typically masked now. I went to the B meet Monday and I’ll admit I came away slightly concerned due to the tightness on deck and knowing how many people (Team rep, assistant team rep, referee, on duty pool-op, person grilling, 2 of 4 assistant coaches, some timers) in addition to the 11 and under crowd are not vaccinated. I am reassured by low community numbers and the fact they are outdoors.

I can understand the concern but to me, the fact that all these same people are intermingling and close together at the pool, during swim practice, etc tells me having stricter requirements at B meets would accomplish nothing since it isn’t being done consistently across all situations.

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Yup^

And how much covid is on any teams now that we are one month from the start of the season?

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on our club’s board. I’m not one who has bee ultra cautious, but I’ve followed rules in place, I’m vaccinated and typically masked now. I went to the B meet Monday and I’ll admit I came away slightly concerned due to the tightness on deck and knowing how many people (Team rep, assistant team rep, referee, on duty pool-op, person grilling, 2 of 4 assistant coaches, some timers) in addition to the 11 and under crowd are not vaccinated. I am reassured by low community numbers and the fact they are outdoors.

I can understand the concern but to me, the fact that all these same people are intermingling and close together at the pool, during swim practice, etc tells me having stricter requirements at B meets would accomplish nothing since it isn’t being done consistently across all situations.

PP here. Yeah, I agree. Maybe even “slightly concerned” is too strong of a description but I did think about how many unvaccinated adults were involved. I guess it was more of an observation.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on our club’s board. I’m not one who has bee ultra cautious, but I’ve followed rules in place, I’m vaccinated and typically masked now. I went to the B meet Monday and I’ll admit I came away slightly concerned due to the tightness on deck and knowing how many people (Team rep, assistant team rep, referee, on duty pool-op, person grilling, 2 of 4 assistant coaches, some timers) in addition to the 11 and under crowd are not vaccinated. I am reassured by low community numbers and the fact they are outdoors.

I can understand the concern but to me, the fact that all these same people are intermingling and close together at the pool, during swim practice, etc tells me having stricter requirements at B meets would accomplish nothing since it isn’t being done consistently across all situations.

PP here. Yeah, I agree. Maybe even “slightly concerned” is too strong of a description but I did think about how many unvaccinated adults were involved. I guess it was more of an observation.

Or maybe don’t be on a team with so many unvaccinated volunteers/employees.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on our club’s board. I’m not one who has bee ultra cautious, but I’ve followed rules in place, I’m vaccinated and typically masked now. I went to the B meet Monday and I’ll admit I came away slightly concerned due to the tightness on deck and knowing how many people (Team rep, assistant team rep, referee, on duty pool-op, person grilling, 2 of 4 assistant coaches, some timers) in addition to the 11 and under crowd are not vaccinated. I am reassured by low community numbers and the fact they are outdoors.

I can understand the concern but to me, the fact that all these same people are intermingling and close together at the pool, during swim practice, etc tells me having stricter requirements at B meets would accomplish nothing since it isn’t being done consistently across all situations.

PP here. Yeah, I agree. Maybe even “slightly concerned” is too strong of a description but I did think about how many unvaccinated adults were involved. I guess it was more of an observation.

Or maybe don’t be on a team with so many unvaccinated volunteers/employees.

A board member has no control over that.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on our club’s board. I’m not one who has bee ultra cautious, but I’ve followed rules in place, I’m vaccinated and typically masked now. I went to the B meet Monday and I’ll admit I came away slightly concerned due to the tightness on deck and knowing how many people (Team rep, assistant team rep, referee, on duty pool-op, person grilling, 2 of 4 assistant coaches, some timers) in addition to the 11 and under crowd are not vaccinated. I am reassured by low community numbers and the fact they are outdoors.

I can understand the concern but to me, the fact that all these same people are intermingling and close together at the pool, during swim practice, etc tells me having stricter requirements at B meets would accomplish nothing since it isn’t being done consistently across all situations.

PP here. Yeah, I agree. Maybe even “slightly concerned” is too strong of a description but I did think about how many unvaccinated adults were involved. I guess it was more of an observation.

Or maybe don’t be on a team with so many unvaccinated volunteers/employees.

A board member has no control over that.

You can. Our pool requires all adults on deck to be vaccinated.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on our club’s board. I’m not one who has bee ultra cautious, but I’ve followed rules in place, I’m vaccinated and typically masked now. I went to the B meet Monday and I’ll admit I came away slightly concerned due to the tightness on deck and knowing how many people (Team rep, assistant team rep, referee, on duty pool-op, person grilling, 2 of 4 assistant coaches, some timers) in addition to the 11 and under crowd are not vaccinated. I am reassured by low community numbers and the fact they are outdoors.

I can understand the concern but to me, the fact that all these same people are intermingling and close together at the pool, during swim practice, etc tells me having stricter requirements at B meets would accomplish nothing since it isn’t being done consistently across all situations.

PP here. Yeah, I agree. Maybe even “slightly concerned” is too strong of a description but I did think about how many unvaccinated adults were involved. I guess it was more of an observation.

Or maybe don’t be on a team with so many unvaccinated volunteers/employees.

A board member has no control over that.

You can. Our pool requires all adults on deck to be vaccinated.

Which pool is that? Do you have to show the vaccination card?

If we did that we wouldn’t have enough guards to open the pool on a regular day and we wouldn’t have enough volunteers to run a swim meet.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on our club’s board. I’m not one who has bee ultra cautious, but I’ve followed rules in place, I’m vaccinated and typically masked now. I went to the B meet Monday and I’ll admit I came away slightly concerned due to the tightness on deck and knowing how many people (Team rep, assistant team rep, referee, on duty pool-op, person grilling, 2 of 4 assistant coaches, some timers) in addition to the 11 and under crowd are not vaccinated. I am reassured by low community numbers and the fact they are outdoors.

I can understand the concern but to me, the fact that all these same people are intermingling and close together at the pool, during swim practice, etc tells me having stricter requirements at B meets would accomplish nothing since it isn’t being done consistently across all situations.

PP here. Yeah, I agree. Maybe even “slightly concerned” is too strong of a description but I did think about how many unvaccinated adults were involved. I guess it was more of an observation.

Or maybe don’t be on a team with so many unvaccinated volunteers/employees.

A board member has no control over that.

You can. Our pool requires all adults on deck to be vaccinated.

Which pool is that? Do you have to show the vaccination card?

If we did that we wouldn’t have enough guards to open the pool on a regular day and we wouldn’t have enough volunteers to run a swim meet.

I don’t want to say which one because some people on this board are crazy. We asked all our volunteers to fill out a form, not show their card. If they didn’t want to, that is ok, they just can’t volunteer on deck. Our community has a very high vaccination rate so we knew going in that our reps, head and assistant coaches and lead volunteers were all vaccinated. It wasn’t hard. From talking with parents, almost all of our 12yr+ swimmers are vaccinated.

Our employees aren’t required to be vaccinated but heavy encouraged. Almost all are members of the pool and we know their parents and know they have been vaccinated.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on our club’s board. I’m not one who has bee ultra cautious, but I’ve followed rules in place, I’m vaccinated and typically masked now. I went to the B meet Monday and I’ll admit I came away slightly concerned due to the tightness on deck and knowing how many people (Team rep, assistant team rep, referee, on duty pool-op, person grilling, 2 of 4 assistant coaches, some timers) in addition to the 11 and under crowd are not vaccinated. I am reassured by low community numbers and the fact they are outdoors.

I can understand the concern but to me, the fact that all these same people are intermingling and close together at the pool, during swim practice, etc tells me having stricter requirements at B meets would accomplish nothing since it isn’t being done consistently across all situations.

PP here. Yeah, I agree. Maybe even “slightly concerned” is too strong of a description but I did think about how many unvaccinated adults were involved. I guess it was more of an observation.

Or maybe don’t be on a team with so many unvaccinated volunteers/employees.

A board member has no control over that.

You can. Our pool requires all adults on deck to be vaccinated.

Which pool is that? Do you have to show the vaccination card?

If we did that we wouldn’t have enough guards to open the pool on a regular day and we wouldn’t have enough volunteers to run a swim meet.

I don’t want to say which one because some people on this board are crazy. We asked all our volunteers to fill out a form, not show their card. If they didn’t want to, that is ok, they just can’t volunteer on deck. Our community has a very high vaccination rate so we knew going in that our reps, head and assistant coaches and lead volunteers were all vaccinated. It wasn’t hard. From talking with parents, almost all of our 12yr+ swimmers are vaccinated.

Our employees aren’t required to be vaccinated but heavy encouraged. Almost all are members of the pool and we know their parents and know they have been vaccinated.

Thanks. I just don’t see how we could afford to require that. We can’t afford to lose memberships (we lost about 1/8 due to restrictions last year) and the swim team would have a difficult time getting enough volunteers. We don’t have any employees so that’s not an issue.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m on our club’s board. I’m not one who has bee ultra cautious, but I’ve followed rules in place, I’m vaccinated and typically masked now. I went to the B meet Monday and I’ll admit I came away slightly concerned due to the tightness on deck and knowing how many people (Team rep, assistant team rep, referee, on duty pool-op, person grilling, 2 of 4 assistant coaches, some timers) in addition to the 11 and under crowd are not vaccinated. I am reassured by low community numbers and the fact they are outdoors.

I can understand the concern but to me, the fact that all these same people are intermingling and close together at the pool, during swim practice, etc tells me having stricter requirements at B meets would accomplish nothing since it isn’t being done consistently across all situations.

PP here. Yeah, I agree. Maybe even “slightly concerned” is too strong of a description but I did think about how many unvaccinated adults were involved. I guess it was more of an observation.

Or maybe don’t be on a team with so many unvaccinated volunteers/employees.

A board member has no control over that.

You can. Our pool requires all adults on deck to be vaccinated.

Which pool is that? Do you have to show the vaccination card?

If we did that we wouldn’t have enough guards to open the pool on a regular day and we wouldn’t have enough volunteers to run a swim meet.

I don’t want to say which one because some people on this board are crazy. We asked all our volunteers to fill out a form, not show their card. If they didn’t want to, that is ok, they just can’t volunteer on deck. Our community has a very high vaccination rate so we knew going in that our reps, head and assistant coaches and lead volunteers were all vaccinated. It wasn’t hard. From talking with parents, almost all of our 12yr+ swimmers are vaccinated.

Our employees aren’t required to be vaccinated but heavy encouraged. Almost all are members of the pool and we know their parents and know they have been vaccinated.

Thanks. I just don’t see how we could afford to require that. We can’t afford to lose memberships (we lost about 1/8 due to restrictions last year) and the swim team would have a difficult time getting enough volunteers. We don’t have any employees so that’s not an issue.

Makes sense for your pool. Seems your area is more vaccine resistant. We have 4+yr waitlist for members, so losing members isn’t an issue for us.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m on our club’s board. I’m not one who has bee ultra cautious, but I’ve followed rules in place, I’m vaccinated and typically masked now. I went to the B meet Monday and I’ll admit I came away slightly concerned due to the tightness on deck and knowing how many people (Team rep, assistant team rep, referee, on duty pool-op, person grilling, 2 of 4 assistant coaches, some timers) in addition to the 11 and under crowd are not vaccinated. I am reassured by low community numbers and the fact they are outdoors.

I can understand the concern but to me, the fact that all these same people are intermingling and close together at the pool, during swim practice, etc tells me having stricter requirements at B meets would accomplish nothing since it isn’t being done consistently across all situations.

PP here. Yeah, I agree. Maybe even “slightly concerned” is too strong of a description but I did think about how many unvaccinated adults were involved. I guess it was more of an observation.

Or maybe don’t be on a team with so many unvaccinated volunteers/employees.

A board member has no control over that.

You can. Our pool requires all adults on deck to be vaccinated.

Which pool is that? Do you have to show the vaccination card?

If we did that we wouldn’t have enough guards to open the pool on a regular day and we wouldn’t have enough volunteers to run a swim meet.

I don’t want to say which one because some people on this board are crazy. We asked all our volunteers to fill out a form, not show their card. If they didn’t want to, that is ok, they just can’t volunteer on deck. Our community has a very high vaccination rate so we knew going in that our reps, head and assistant coaches and lead volunteers were all vaccinated. It wasn’t hard. From talking with parents, almost all of our 12yr+ swimmers are vaccinated.

Our employees aren’t required to be vaccinated but heavy encouraged. Almost all are members of the pool and we know their parents and know they have been vaccinated.

Thanks. I just don’t see how we could afford to require that. We can’t afford to lose memberships (we lost about 1/8 due to restrictions last year) and the swim team would have a difficult time getting enough volunteers. We don’t have any employees so that’s not an issue.

Makes sense for your pool. Seems your area is more vaccine resistant. We have 4+yr waitlist for members, so losing members isn’t an issue for us.

It might be somewhat more resistant. Many are vaccinated. There is a lot we could do differently if we had a wait list.

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4 weeks since practices started and now we have 2 A meets and 2 B meets done. Anyone having covid outbreaks?!