Lil Nas X MONTERO controversy

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Anonymous wrote:If Nicki Minaj made this video, it would be 6 hours of Twitter talk and the online tabloids would be, like, “See Nicki’s HOT new video!!!” People just are bent out of shape about this because he’s gay. The same thing happened to Adam Lambert years ago when he did a “controversial” performance on some awards show and it nearly killed his career.

That is part of it but I’m also seeing complaints that there should’ve been a disclaimer when the video dropped bc lil Nas x has a targeted population which is kids.

Kids are not Lil Nas Xs targeted population. His first major song was about 'lean' and having sex. Just because parents let their kids repeat the lyrics - just as parents let their kids sing the lyrics of Watermelon Sugar which is about cunnilingus - does not make it a kids song.

Never said his songs were for kids but that’s who listens. Old town road is popular bc kids loved that crap. So yeah, his main audience is kids.

And it’s the responsibility of adults to limit that.

I couldn’t listen to Police in middle school because Roxanne was a prostitute and there was apparently a chance I would work the red light district if I listened to Police.

you must not have kids because kids are bombarded with this stuff and it is impossible to just turn it off. Algorithms and cookies are. designed to pop up based on what they’ve liked in the past. So yes if everyone played the number one rap song in the country and liked Lil Nas X when he was just a fun loving pink cowboy outfit wearing kid who happens to be gay, then guess who’s new music video is popping up on YouTube? I didn’t think he would put a video out like that and have lost all respect for him and the very things I thought he represented. It’s unfortunate because he really had the opportunity to do more with his platform as the first openly gay rapper.

Yes. I have kids. My biggest worry is drinking in college and country music is always encouraging children to get wasted, drink beer, drink on a plane, drink when sad.

Shall I forbid country music?

If you want to compare that video to country music videos about drinking and smoking have at it. It is a false equivalency.

But you can’t articulate what a person will do if they watch the video.

Will they try to have sex with satan in hell, is that your concern?

I’m worried kids drink too much and kids die every year in college drinking too much and there are studies that show country music listeners have a higher rate of alcoholism than the gen pop.

Can you articulate what will happen to society/children if they watch this video?

DP. When your kids were young children, did you expose them to pornography? Why not? Can you articulate what would happen?

Most kids pull up porn on their computer and phone.

So yes, they are “exposed” to porn just like I was exposed to “thorn birds”. It’s something you can’t hide from them and you need to have open and honest discussions about it. If you put controls on their computers or phone they will inevitably have a friend that shows it to them. Also your H was stealing his dads porn as a kid, every kids knows where dads Penthouse is.

If you really don’t have any controls on your seven year old’s access to the internet, you are doing them a grave disservice. That would be terrible parenting.

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Anonymous wrote:If Nicki Minaj made this video, it would be 6 hours of Twitter talk and the online tabloids would be, like, “See Nicki’s HOT new video!!!” People just are bent out of shape about this because he’s gay. The same thing happened to Adam Lambert years ago when he did a “controversial” performance on some awards show and it nearly killed his career.

That is part of it but I’m also seeing complaints that there should’ve been a disclaimer when the video dropped bc lil Nas x has a targeted population which is kids.

Kids are not Lil Nas Xs targeted population. His first major song was about 'lean' and having sex. Just because parents let their kids repeat the lyrics - just as parents let their kids sing the lyrics of Watermelon Sugar which is about cunnilingus - does not make it a kids song.

Never said his songs were for kids but that’s who listens. Old town road is popular bc kids loved that crap. So yeah, his main audience is kids.

And it’s the responsibility of adults to limit that.

I couldn’t listen to Police in middle school because Roxanne was a prostitute and there was apparently a chance I would work the red light district if I listened to Police.

you must not have kids because kids are bombarded with this stuff and it is impossible to just turn it off. Algorithms and cookies are. designed to pop up based on what they’ve liked in the past. So yes if everyone played the number one rap song in the country and liked Lil Nas X when he was just a fun loving pink cowboy outfit wearing kid who happens to be gay, then guess who’s new music video is popping up on YouTube? I didn’t think he would put a video out like that and have lost all respect for him and the very things I thought he represented. It’s unfortunate because he really had the opportunity to do more with his platform as the first openly gay rapper.

Yes. I have kids. My biggest worry is drinking in college and country music is always encouraging children to get wasted, drink beer, drink on a plane, drink when sad.

Shall I forbid country music?

If you want to compare that video to country music videos about drinking and smoking have at it. It is a false equivalency.

But you can’t articulate what a person will do if they watch the video.

Will they try to have sex with satan in hell, is that your concern?

I’m worried kids drink too much and kids die every year in college drinking too much and there are studies that show country music listeners have a higher rate of alcoholism than the gen pop.

Can you articulate what will happen to society/children if they watch this video?

DP. When your kids were young children, did you expose them to pornography? Why not? Can you articulate what would happen?

Most kids pull up porn on their computer and phone.

So yes, they are “exposed” to porn just like I was exposed to “thorn birds”. It’s something you can’t hide from them and you need to have open and honest discussions about it. If you put controls on their computers or phone they will inevitably have a friend that shows it to them. Also your H was stealing his dads porn as a kid, every kids knows where dads Penthouse is.

If you really don’t have any controls on your seven year old’s access to the internet, you are doing them a grave disservice. That would be terrible parenting.

My 7 yo doesn’t listen to music on his own either. I’m only talking about kids that might also listen to the song discussed here.

[Anonymous]

Seriously? Your 7 year old never listens to music on his own? My 7 year old tells Alexa to play him music. So I hear Bang by Ajr on repeat coming from his room for like an hour.

[Anonymous]

I loved Kid Fury's take on The Read. It was basically like, Lil Nas X knew he was going to hell anyway...so he was like, I'm going to slide down there on a stripper pole, wearing some over-the-knee boots. Then I'm going to put it on Satan. Then I'm going to break his neck and take his job.

Perfection.

Dream big, kids!

[Anonymous]

Christian church: Montero it is a sin to be gay. You will spend eternity in hell.
Lil Nas X: Ok. I’m gonna ride a stripper pole down there and twerk the whole time and enjoy my eternity in sin.
Church: no you were supposed to be upset about it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think it's moving, what he has done. I think the kids will ultimately save us all. Did you see what he said about his video?

"i spent my entire teenage years hating myself because of the sh** y'all preached would happen to me because I was gay. So i hope u are mad, stay mad, feel the same anger you teach us to have towards ourselves.”

That is a beautiful sendoff to those righteous people who preach morality and kindness on one hand and then act another way. He has a new fan over here. *chef's kiss"

And to have this coming from the rapping community is another big step. This is the kind of ballsy thing Kanye should/could have done if he hadn't gotten sidetracked by religion (!) and stopped taking his meds.

Also, the song is really catchy!

+100. Anything that riles up the religious whackos I am all for. They are the trash here.

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Anonymous wrote:Seriously? Your 7 year old never listens to music on his own? My 7 year old tells Alexa to play him music. So I hear Bang by Ajr on repeat coming from his room for like an hour.

No. We listen to music in the car and on the main level or basement but never alone. Bedrooms are for sleeping and reading only.

[Anonymous]

Looks like the pressure got to him.