Your child is a spoiled brat

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Puh-leaze! People have been going on about "kids these days" for 40, 50 years. Probably longer. Some people are good parents, some people aren't. Sometimes, the behavior you witness is a child at its worst. Sometimes it is the normal behavior for the child. But at the end of the day, MYOB.

yeah - But back then, no one was "diagnosed." Asperger's? When I look back, I can list a handful of school mates who fit that description. Opp. Def. Disorder? Another school "chum" comes to mind. These kids went to school with me and graduated. One kid was literally an idiot savant - a social misfit who was a brilliant piano player who won a free ride to college.

So these days, now that we have a label for every behavior (LDGT anyone?) we also have strategies for handling some of these behaviors, and many of these strategies are PC, for lack of a better description.

And if you suck as a parent, guess what? There's a class to help you improve!

Basically, in this day and age, good old fashioned discipline is a no no.

think this quote is interesting. and to the first quoter yes there have always been badly behaved kids and sucky parents and it would be a lot better if it was easy to MYOB. but if it's a kid that's piercing your ear drums with their deafening screams just because they're not getting that toy or candy bar they want (oh the horror) kind of hard to. and if that's your child's normal behavior I mean come on either discipline your kid or don't take them out in public! and I like the second person's quote. whereas back then you can only think of a handful of people that fit the Asperger's or Oppositional Defiant disorder description it's almost everywhere now. wonder why, correlating with the increasing number of slack parents much? and coming from someone who was diagnosed with Asperger's but it's not because I was badly behaved and my parents didn't use that as excuse to let me be badly behaved like a lot of other people would.

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Anonymous wrote:Is this the new form of parenting? We are all screwed in 20 years if this is the common mindset.

oh c'mon..........yes, we've all abandoned manners, discipline and parenting.

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Well, I suppose the irony of this thread is the fact that the OP's call for manners and civility was couched in such unmannerly and uncivil language!

Generally, that sort of thing brings out the worst in people. You can state a fact in an uncompromising, authoritative way without sucumbing to the very problem you're railing against.

Fire with fire?

[Anonymous]

My child has behaved like a brat. In public. It surprised me when it first happened, and I was a bit shell-shocked. "What? Who ARE you??"

The next time it happened, I was prepared and handled it well!

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what should you do if your 4 year old eats spaghetti with her fingers at a restaurant?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, I think your post is sort of harsh, negative and unhelpful, but I'll bite.

I think our generation of parents are "taught" or maybe encouraged to "emplower" the child too much. I find myself explaining to my 19 month old way to much. As in, we can't do this because of X. I can't understand you when you whine, etc.

Personally, I think that can be overdone and sometimes you need a harsh "NO! Because I said so, that's why!"

Our parents' and grandparents' generation may have been too heavy-handed with that, but we are going to far in the other direction. I blame myself as well. The other day I lost patient and snapped at my child when she was on the floor whining - not harshly, just said her name, and she bolted up and stopped.

It was a huge lesson. I'm her mom, she will respect me just because of that, I don't need to treat her like a little adult every second of the day. I think we are encouraged to narrate everything to our children to help them learn language, but we can over-narrate. Sometimes they just need to shape up because mom or dad or adult in charge said so. No other reason.

I don't find OP's post harsh at all. However, I find your need to explain things to your 19 mo very amusing.

Me too!

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5. Parents have been whining about kids for eons. They aren't any different than in the past. Not a chance. Kids absolutely do things today that they did not do decades ago. I can't believe this point even needs to be defended in an age where kids are sexting each other.

Absolutely wrong. Kids are no worse today than they were before. Just because parents used to beat children in the past, doesn't mean behavior problems were any less. And sexting is neither here nor there. In the 16th century, they may not have been sexting, but they were going at it in the barn behind their parents' backs.

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Anonymous wrote:what should you do if your 4 year old eats spaghetti with her fingers at a restaurant?

Do you let your 4 year old eat this way at home?

A 4 year old is capable of using silverware/plastic utensils, especially a spoon or fork.

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Spirited genius lol. I thought spirited meant happy not a child who spits in his moms face and never listens. And im pretty sure if a kid was so smart and some good ole fashioned punishment came their way for doing what they do they would def consider before doing it again. I mean i know a lot of parents might think their kid is a genius just bcuz but blaming their bad behavior on a high Iq is just ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:Spirited genius lol. I thought spirited meant happy not a child who spits in his moms face and never listens. And im pretty sure if a kid was so smart and some good ole fashioned punishment came their way for doing what they do they would def consider before doing it again. I mean i know a lot of parents might think their kid is a genius just bcuz but blaming their bad behavior on a high Iq is just ridiculous.

Ditto. Spirited is code for brat. 8)

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Spirited genius lol. I thought spirited meant happy not a child who spits in his moms face and never listens. And im pretty sure if a kid was so smart and some good ole fashioned punishment came their way for doing what they do they would def consider before doing it again. I mean i know a lot of parents might think their kid is a genius just bcuz but blaming their bad behavior on a high Iq is just ridiculous.

Ditto. Spirited is code for brat. 8)

What's code for "I resurrected a nasty month-old thread for no good reason because I like drama"?

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Kids are most definitely more badly behaved than previous generations. Like with all things, there are shifts in the culture and child-rearing has changed. Big time. The end result? We are raising over-indulged, overly assertive, entitled brats. I can't believe the things my kid's peers will say TO ME, an adult. Openly defy, challenge me etc. I remember my friends and I fearing adults, respecting them. That's gone and I don't think it's a good thing. The lack of freedom has also resulted in a lack of socialization -- kids can't work things out among their peers and they aren't as self-reliant as we were. And I don't think it's the kids with the higher IQs who behave the worst. Haha. Keep telling yourselves that!!

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Anonymous wrote:what should you do if your 4 year old eats spaghetti with her fingers at a restaurant?

Why do allow her to eat spaghetti with her fingers at home? This is your fault that you don't teach your children table manners. There is no excuse for a 4-yr old not to know how to use a fork or a spoon. Italian children know how to eat spaghetti properly, are they smarter or maybe their parenting skills are superior to yours.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I am a school administrator. I cannot count how many times I have had some version of this sentence come out of the mouth of a parent who is in my office because of their child's behavior--"Billy is just so much more mature/intelligent/articulate than his peers. He cannot relate to them, so he ends up behaving inappropriately/disrespectfully/violently towards them out of frustration. One day the rest of the kids will mature to a level where he can relate to them and then he'll be fine." The variation on this theme is that Billy is more mature/intelligent/articulate than his peers and should be held to a different standard altogether.

I have been doing my job long enough (and been a parent long enough) to now say to parents like this what I used to just think to myself. If Billy is truly that brilliant and mature, he can be taught to understand that there is a difference between appropriate and inappropriate behavior. So we need to teach him. We need to reward the right choices and consistently demonstrate that the wrong choices have consequences. And by we, I mean all of the adults who interact with Billy at school and at home.

If he cannot understand the difference, that is a serious issue that needs real attention. We need to address that issue honestly and thoughtfully, calling upon the appropriate people and resources, rather than just pretend it's an inevitable by-product of brilliance and sweep it under the rug.

The most important part of this is that no matter why Billy behaves the way he does, we need to take it seriously, because it isn't working for anyone. It's not working for the teachers and the other kids, because Billy is disruptive, distracting, and occasionally a danger. And it's not working for Billy, because his behavior leaves him frustrated and isolated, which just makes things worse for everyone involved. So let's all take a deep breath and be honest, and really find a solution.

this is the best response to all the parents who think their child's intelligence is why they act out. I wish you had been my principal, backing me up when I was a first grade teacher with many out of control, bratty students deemed "gifted" by their parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:what should you do if your 4 year old eats spaghetti with her fingers at a restaurant?

Why do allow her to eat spaghetti with her fingers at home? This is your fault that you don't teach your children table manners. There is no excuse for a 4-yr old not to know how to use a fork or a spoon. Italian children know how to eat spaghetti properly, are they smarter or maybe their parenting skills are superior to yours.

Actually, there are some kids (not that many, but some) who do not have the motor skills to use a fork at that age. I'd be careful judging until you know the family well enough to know.