20,000 kids missing from DCPS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

Learn to read. The thread title is about the "20,000 kids missing". The issue I took with both the headline and the article is that is provides no evidence to support that conclusion. As I (and others) have already explained to you several times, the number isn't down 20,000 from years prior at this point in the process. Assuming it is "only" overstating the issue by 10,000 that's a huge, intellectually dishonest overstatement. Plus, as we have also explained, even the article acknowledges that many students typically do registration confirmation in person so it isn't clear whether some of these "missing" students are even missing, or just attending after having failed to register.

No one is saying kids shouldn't be in school. What we are saying is that this article provides fuel for a fire where there might not even be smoke.

I am loving the DCUM Hill and upper NW parents who don't want these poor and homeless kids anywhere near their schools but have recently decided to mention them because it tracks with their narrative that they want to go back to school.

Last year, there were 99,000 students in the system.

This year, only 77,000 have logged into a class at least once.

That means almost one-quarter of the students have yet to attend a single class this year.

How many thousands more have attended only one or two or three classes and then quit?

This translates to an astronomical absentee rate.

[Anonymous]

It's so incredibly immoral that schools remain closed. Contact your elected officials!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

Learn to read. The thread title is about the "20,000 kids missing". The issue I took with both the headline and the article is that is provides no evidence to support that conclusion. As I (and others) have already explained to you several times, the number isn't down 20,000 from years prior at this point in the process. Assuming it is "only" overstating the issue by 10,000 that's a huge, intellectually dishonest overstatement. Plus, as we have also explained, even the article acknowledges that many students typically do registration confirmation in person so it isn't clear whether some of these "missing" students are even missing, or just attending after having failed to register.

No one is saying kids shouldn't be in school. What we are saying is that this article provides fuel for a fire where there might not even be smoke.

I am loving the DCUM Hill and upper NW parents who don't want these poor and homeless kids anywhere near their schools but have recently decided to mention them because it tracks with their narrative that they want to go back to school.

Last year, there were 99,000 students in the system.

This year, only 77,000 have logged into a class at least once.

That means almost one-quarter of the students have yet to attend a single class this year.

How many thousands more have attended only one or two or three classes and then quit?

This translates to an astronomical absentee rate.

Even Perry acknowledges that the number isn’t that high — she tweeted this: “At this time last yr. 87k had enrolled. DC does not suspect the main driver is people fleeing public schools, instead it is confusion over enrollment process. Typically families enroll in-person in the front desk of schools. Now its mostly virtual.” Also, Perry’s figures include adult students. Much better information is needed to draw any conclusions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

Learn to read. The thread title is about the "20,000 kids missing". The issue I took with both the headline and the article is that is provides no evidence to support that conclusion. As I (and others) have already explained to you several times, the number isn't down 20,000 from years prior at this point in the process. Assuming it is "only" overstating the issue by 10,000 that's a huge, intellectually dishonest overstatement. Plus, as we have also explained, even the article acknowledges that many students typically do registration confirmation in person so it isn't clear whether some of these "missing" students are even missing, or just attending after having failed to register.

No one is saying kids shouldn't be in school. What we are saying is that this article provides fuel for a fire where there might not even be smoke.

I am loving the DCUM Hill and upper NW parents who don't want these poor and homeless kids anywhere near their schools but have recently decided to mention them because it tracks with their narrative that they want to go back to school.

Last year, there were 99,000 students in the system.

This year, only 77,000 have logged into a class at least once.

That means almost one-quarter of the students have yet to attend a single class this year.

How many thousands more have attended only one or two or three classes and then quit?

This translates to an astronomical absentee rate.

A lot of kids hate school, and only go because they have to or because they want to see their friends or because if you’re home at 2pm on a Tuesday, it’s really obvious to everyone you’re skipping school. But if you create a situation where they don’t have to physically go to school and there aren’t any friends at school to see and if it’s not unusual to be at home at 2pm on a Tuesday, then the number of kids skipping school is going to go through the roof. Not surprising. My guess is a lot of these kids will never attend school again, even after they reopen. Distance learning has been a disastrous experiment in education and we are are going to be reckoning with its consequences for years to come.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

Learn to read. The thread title is about the "20,000 kids missing". The issue I took with both the headline and the article is that is provides no evidence to support that conclusion. As I (and others) have already explained to you several times, the number isn't down 20,000 from years prior at this point in the process. Assuming it is "only" overstating the issue by 10,000 that's a huge, intellectually dishonest overstatement. Plus, as we have also explained, even the article acknowledges that many students typically do registration confirmation in person so it isn't clear whether some of these "missing" students are even missing, or just attending after having failed to register.

No one is saying kids shouldn't be in school. What we are saying is that this article provides fuel for a fire where there might not even be smoke.

I am loving the DCUM Hill and upper NW parents who don't want these poor and homeless kids anywhere near their schools but have recently decided to mention them because it tracks with their narrative that they want to go back to school.

Last year, there were 99,000 students in the system.

This year, only 77,000 have logged into a class at least once.

That means almost one-quarter of the students have yet to attend a single class this year.

How many thousands more have attended only one or two or three classes and then quit?

This translates to an astronomical absentee rate.

Are people really this daft? Some parents just didn’t log into Canvas. I had students participate in lessons but didn’t log into canvas because they have the teams link. We then have to call our school to manually put their attendance in aspen. Parents are struggling with Canvas.

20k kids are not ‘missing’ some likely aren’t doing DL but I bet a lot are and aren’t logging in.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

Learn to read. The thread title is about the "20,000 kids missing". The issue I took with both the headline and the article is that is provides no evidence to support that conclusion. As I (and others) have already explained to you several times, the number isn't down 20,000 from years prior at this point in the process. Assuming it is "only" overstating the issue by 10,000 that's a huge, intellectually dishonest overstatement. Plus, as we have also explained, even the article acknowledges that many students typically do registration confirmation in person so it isn't clear whether some of these "missing" students are even missing, or just attending after having failed to register.

No one is saying kids shouldn't be in school. What we are saying is that this article provides fuel for a fire where there might not even be smoke.

I am loving the DCUM Hill and upper NW parents who don't want these poor and homeless kids anywhere near their schools but have recently decided to mention them because it tracks with their narrative that they want to go back to school.

Last year, there were 99,000 students in the system.

This year, only 77,000 have logged into a class at least once.

That means almost one-quarter of the students have yet to attend a single class this year.

How many thousands more have attended only one or two or three classes and then quit?

This translates to an astronomical absentee rate.

Are people really this daft? Some parents just didn’t log into Canvas. I had students participate in lessons but didn’t log into canvas because they have the teams link. We then have to call our school to manually put their attendance in aspen. Parents are struggling with Canvas.

20k kids are not ‘missing’ some likely aren’t doing DL but I bet a lot are and aren’t logging in.

Sounds like the system is really working! Ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

Learn to read. The thread title is about the "20,000 kids missing". The issue I took with both the headline and the article is that is provides no evidence to support that conclusion. As I (and others) have already explained to you several times, the number isn't down 20,000 from years prior at this point in the process. Assuming it is "only" overstating the issue by 10,000 that's a huge, intellectually dishonest overstatement. Plus, as we have also explained, even the article acknowledges that many students typically do registration confirmation in person so it isn't clear whether some of these "missing" students are even missing, or just attending after having failed to register.

No one is saying kids shouldn't be in school. What we are saying is that this article provides fuel for a fire where there might not even be smoke.

I am loving the DCUM Hill and upper NW parents who don't want these poor and homeless kids anywhere near their schools but have recently decided to mention them because it tracks with their narrative that they want to go back to school.

Last year, there were 99,000 students in the system.

This year, only 77,000 have logged into a class at least once.

That means almost one-quarter of the students have yet to attend a single class this year.

How many thousands more have attended only one or two or three classes and then quit?

This translates to an astronomical absentee rate.

Are people really this daft? Some parents just didn’t log into Canvas. I had students participate in lessons but didn’t log into canvas because they have the teams link. We then have to call our school to manually put their attendance in aspen. Parents are struggling with Canvas.

20k kids are not ‘missing’ some likely aren’t doing DL but I bet a lot are and aren’t logging in.

Sounds like the system is really working! Ridiculous.

I agree, I dislike Canvas. I think it’s better suited for middle and high schoolers. And this is just personal but I dislike its user interface, it’s ugly, clunky, and doesn’t help engage children or families.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

Learn to read. The thread title is about the "20,000 kids missing". The issue I took with both the headline and the article is that is provides no evidence to support that conclusion. As I (and others) have already explained to you several times, the number isn't down 20,000 from years prior at this point in the process. Assuming it is "only" overstating the issue by 10,000 that's a huge, intellectually dishonest overstatement. Plus, as we have also explained, even the article acknowledges that many students typically do registration confirmation in person so it isn't clear whether some of these "missing" students are even missing, or just attending after having failed to register.

No one is saying kids shouldn't be in school. What we are saying is that this article provides fuel for a fire where there might not even be smoke.

I am loving the DCUM Hill and upper NW parents who don't want these poor and homeless kids anywhere near their schools but have recently decided to mention them because it tracks with their narrative that they want to go back to school.

Last year, there were 99,000 students in the system.

This year, only 77,000 have logged into a class at least once.

That means almost one-quarter of the students have yet to attend a single class this year.

How many thousands more have attended only one or two or three classes and then quit?

This translates to an astronomical absentee rate.

Even Perry acknowledges that the number isn’t that high — she tweeted this: “At this time last yr. 87k had enrolled. DC does not suspect the main driver is people fleeing public schools, instead it is confusion over enrollment process. Typically families enroll in-person in the front desk of schools. Now its mostly virtual.” Also, Perry’s figures include adult students. Much better information is needed to draw any conclusions.

If that's the case it's easy for DCPS to release more data to support it. I'm skeptical. I don't believe its a complete red herring since I do believe there are legitimate dc resident families having trouble completing the process. But until DCPS provides data showing real attendance stats and not just a measure of who's ever logged on I'm going to believe regular attendance is way down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

Learn to read. The thread title is about the "20,000 kids missing". The issue I took with both the headline and the article is that is provides no evidence to support that conclusion. As I (and others) have already explained to you several times, the number isn't down 20,000 from years prior at this point in the process. Assuming it is "only" overstating the issue by 10,000 that's a huge, intellectually dishonest overstatement. Plus, as we have also explained, even the article acknowledges that many students typically do registration confirmation in person so it isn't clear whether some of these "missing" students are even missing, or just attending after having failed to register.

No one is saying kids shouldn't be in school. What we are saying is that this article provides fuel for a fire where there might not even be smoke.

I am loving the DCUM Hill and upper NW parents who don't want these poor and homeless kids anywhere near their schools but have recently decided to mention them because it tracks with their narrative that they want to go back to school.

Last year, there were 99,000 students in the system.

This year, only 77,000 have logged into a class at least once.

That means almost one-quarter of the students have yet to attend a single class this year.

How many thousands more have attended only one or two or three classes and then quit?

This translates to an astronomical absentee rate.

This is happening across the country. It's not just DC.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

Learn to read. The thread title is about the "20,000 kids missing". The issue I took with both the headline and the article is that is provides no evidence to support that conclusion. As I (and others) have already explained to you several times, the number isn't down 20,000 from years prior at this point in the process. Assuming it is "only" overstating the issue by 10,000 that's a huge, intellectually dishonest overstatement. Plus, as we have also explained, even the article acknowledges that many students typically do registration confirmation in person so it isn't clear whether some of these "missing" students are even missing, or just attending after having failed to register.

No one is saying kids shouldn't be in school. What we are saying is that this article provides fuel for a fire where there might not even be smoke.

I am loving the DCUM Hill and upper NW parents who don't want these poor and homeless kids anywhere near their schools but have recently decided to mention them because it tracks with their narrative that they want to go back to school.

Last year, there were 99,000 students in the system.

This year, only 77,000 have logged into a class at least once.

That means almost one-quarter of the students have yet to attend a single class this year.

How many thousands more have attended only one or two or three classes and then quit?

This translates to an astronomical absentee rate.

This is happening across the country. It's not just DC.

Seattle just released numbers showing less than half of elementary students there logged on for online learning.

https://www.seattletimes.com/education-lab/limited-data-show-less-than-half-of-seattles-elementary-school-kids-logged-in-to-districts-online-portal-last-spring/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

Learn to read. The thread title is about the "20,000 kids missing". The issue I took with both the headline and the article is that is provides no evidence to support that conclusion. As I (and others) have already explained to you several times, the number isn't down 20,000 from years prior at this point in the process. Assuming it is "only" overstating the issue by 10,000 that's a huge, intellectually dishonest overstatement. Plus, as we have also explained, even the article acknowledges that many students typically do registration confirmation in person so it isn't clear whether some of these "missing" students are even missing, or just attending after having failed to register.

No one is saying kids shouldn't be in school. What we are saying is that this article provides fuel for a fire where there might not even be smoke.

I am loving the DCUM Hill and upper NW parents who don't want these poor and homeless kids anywhere near their schools but have recently decided to mention them because it tracks with their narrative that they want to go back to school.

Last year, there were 99,000 students in the system.

This year, only 77,000 have logged into a class at least once.

That means almost one-quarter of the students have yet to attend a single class this year.

How many thousands more have attended only one or two or three classes and then quit?

This translates to an astronomical absentee rate.

This is happening across the country. It's not just DC.

Seattle just released numbers showing less than half of elementary students there logged on for online learning.

https://www.seattletimes.com/education-lab/limited-data-show-less-than-half-of-seattles-elementary-school-kids-logged-in-to-districts-online-portal-last-spring/

Less than half have logged in at some schools in Chicago:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-cps-first-day-remote-learning-attendance-20200911-o7bnmhjnovhwlabow35a53fo3q-story.html

One quarter of students missing in Detroit:

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/09/16/detroit-school-district-online-learning/5816523002/

[Anonymous]

I'm beginning to wonder what I'm doing to my children, making them log on and attend classes.

Wow, those numbers are shocking. Horrifying.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm beginning to wonder what I'm doing to my children, making them log on and attend classes.

Wow, those numbers are shocking. Horrifying.

The numbers surely understate how little engaged students are. The schools are making it incredibly easy to declare yourself present -- you have to do almost nothing -- and yet the attendance numbers are still incredibly bad.

[Anonymous]

Someone from DCPS called me today asking about my oldest DC. He’s attending a private school this year and we submitted the required transfer paperwork months ago. I imagine situations like this may count for a few thousand of the total missing students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The cure is worse than the disease. Open the schools.

+1