20,000 kids missing from DCPS

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The cure is worse than the disease. Open the schools.

+1

Too late, by Nov 6th I’m sure we’ll have a spike and a great big shutdown. I’m prepared for March.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

Learn to read. The thread title is about the "20,000 kids missing". The issue I took with both the headline and the article is that is provides no evidence to support that conclusion. As I (and others) have already explained to you several times, the number isn't down 20,000 from years prior at this point in the process. Assuming it is "only" overstating the issue by 10,000 that's a huge, intellectually dishonest overstatement. Plus, as we have also explained, even the article acknowledges that many students typically do registration confirmation in person so it isn't clear whether some of these "missing" students are even missing, or just attending after having failed to register.

No one is saying kids shouldn't be in school. What we are saying is that this article provides fuel for a fire where there might not even be smoke.

I am loving the DCUM Hill and upper NW parents who don't want these poor and homeless kids anywhere near their schools but have recently decided to mention them because it tracks with their narrative that they want to go back to school.

Last year, there were 99,000 students in the system.

This year, only 77,000 have logged into a class at least once.

That means almost one-quarter of the students have yet to attend a single class this year.

How many thousands more have attended only one or two or three classes and then quit?

This translates to an astronomical absentee rate.

This is happening across the country. It's not just DC.

Our school district is now just throwing out crazy numbers. 93% login rate! Yay! 7 out of 10 of the kids in the district qualify for free lunch and live in transient housing and yet magically they're at 93% login rates with no explanation of what counts as a login or how long they're actually staying on. The four schools in the district who are in multimillion dollar neighborhoods meanwhile have a facebook group with a 1,000 parents in it saying that distance learning is not working. We switched to a private after seeing those numbers, the outright lying is just too much.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For everyone saying that schools should open, where were you in the spring/summer? Were you contacting the Mayor/DME/your school (DCPS/charter)? I was, and I got crickets. I got support from very few other parents.

Instead of commenting here, please make sure you are advocating for schools to reopen, in whatever way you can.

In spring we thought we'd be back in the fall. Over the summer that carrot was still there. The full DL switch was very late summer

Anyone who ever thought school would go back in October is just foolish, I'm sorry. I was staunchly opposed to virtual learning, especially for the younger kids, partly because I knew that DCPS was just telling us October to prevent a freak out. It will be all school year. It's always been until a vaccine; they just won't say it.

You were duped, I'm sorry to say it. It's all year. Start advocating for spring/next fall NOW if you're so fed up with distance learning or worried about kids (which was also predictable).

We are already making plans for Fall 2021 for my kids, I think even if the public school kids go back next year, it won't be an environment that will be safe or conducive to learning.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

Learn to read. The thread title is about the "20,000 kids missing". The issue I took with both the headline and the article is that is provides no evidence to support that conclusion. As I (and others) have already explained to you several times, the number isn't down 20,000 from years prior at this point in the process. Assuming it is "only" overstating the issue by 10,000 that's a huge, intellectually dishonest overstatement. Plus, as we have also explained, even the article acknowledges that many students typically do registration confirmation in person so it isn't clear whether some of these "missing" students are even missing, or just attending after having failed to register.

No one is saying kids shouldn't be in school. What we are saying is that this article provides fuel for a fire where there might not even be smoke.

I am loving the DCUM Hill and upper NW parents who don't want these poor and homeless kids anywhere near their schools but have recently decided to mention them because it tracks with their narrative that they want to go back to school.

Last year, there were 99,000 students in the system.

This year, only 77,000 have logged into a class at least once.

That means almost one-quarter of the students have yet to attend a single class this year.

How many thousands more have attended only one or two or three classes and then quit?

This translates to an astronomical absentee rate.

This is happening across the country. It's not just DC.

Seattle just released numbers showing less than half of elementary students there logged on for online learning.

https://www.seattletimes.com/education-lab/limited-data-show-less-than-half-of-seattles-elementary-school-kids-logged-in-to-districts-online-portal-last-spring/

Less than half have logged in at some schools in Chicago:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-cps-first-day-remote-learning-attendance-20200911-o7bnmhjnovhwlabow35a53fo3q-story.html

One quarter of students missing in Detroit:

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/09/16/detroit-school-district-online-learning/5816523002/

unbelievable.

[Anonymous]

We are already making plans for Fall 2021 for my kids, I think even if the public school kids go back next year, it won't be an environment that will be safe or conducive to learning.

Can you elaborate on why you think this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

Learn to read. The thread title is about the "20,000 kids missing". The issue I took with both the headline and the article is that is provides no evidence to support that conclusion. As I (and others) have already explained to you several times, the number isn't down 20,000 from years prior at this point in the process. Assuming it is "only" overstating the issue by 10,000 that's a huge, intellectually dishonest overstatement. Plus, as we have also explained, even the article acknowledges that many students typically do registration confirmation in person so it isn't clear whether some of these "missing" students are even missing, or just attending after having failed to register.

No one is saying kids shouldn't be in school. What we are saying is that this article provides fuel for a fire where there might not even be smoke.

I am loving the DCUM Hill and upper NW parents who don't want these poor and homeless kids anywhere near their schools but have recently decided to mention them because it tracks with their narrative that they want to go back to school.

Last year, there were 99,000 students in the system.

This year, only 77,000 have logged into a class at least once.

That means almost one-quarter of the students have yet to attend a single class this year.

How many thousands more have attended only one or two or three classes and then quit?

This translates to an astronomical absentee rate.

This is happening across the country. It's not just DC.

Seattle just released numbers showing less than half of elementary students there logged on for online learning.
https://www.seattletimes.com/education-lab/limited-data-show-less-than-half-of-seattles-elementary-school-kids-logged-in-to-districts-online-portal-last-spring/

Less than half have logged in at some schools in Chicago:
https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-cps-first-day-remote-learning-attendance-20200911-o7bnmhjnovhwlabow35a53fo3q-story.html

One quarter of students missing in Detroit:
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/09/16/detroit-school-district-online-learning/5816523002/

Please listen the daily podcast on homeless children to get a sense of the obstacles these children have to engaging in learning. It broke my heart that this is how we as a society treat the most vulnerable.

unbelievable.

The

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

Learn to read. The thread title is about the "20,000 kids missing". The issue I took with both the headline and the article is that is provides no evidence to support that conclusion. As I (and others) have already explained to you several times, the number isn't down 20,000 from years prior at this point in the process. Assuming it is "only" overstating the issue by 10,000 that's a huge, intellectually dishonest overstatement. Plus, as we have also explained, even the article acknowledges that many students typically do registration confirmation in person so it isn't clear whether some of these "missing" students are even missing, or just attending after having failed to register.

No one is saying kids shouldn't be in school. What we are saying is that this article provides fuel for a fire where there might not even be smoke.

I am loving the DCUM Hill and upper NW parents who don't want these poor and homeless kids anywhere near their schools but have recently decided to mention them because it tracks with their narrative that they want to go back to school.

Last year, there were 99,000 students in the system.

This year, only 77,000 have logged into a class at least once.

That means almost one-quarter of the students have yet to attend a single class this year.

How many thousands more have attended only one or two or three classes and then quit?

This translates to an astronomical absentee rate.

This is happening across the country. It's not just DC.

Our school district is now just throwing out crazy numbers. 93% login rate! Yay! 7 out of 10 of the kids in the district qualify for free lunch and live in transient housing and yet magically they're at 93% login rates with no explanation of what counts as a login or how long they're actually staying on. The four schools in the district who are in multimillion dollar neighborhoods meanwhile have a facebook group with a 1,000 parents in it saying that distance learning is not working. We switched to a private after seeing those numbers, the outright lying is just too much.

This made me LOL. OMG, a whole fb page???!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

Learn to read. The thread title is about the "20,000 kids missing". The issue I took with both the headline and the article is that is provides no evidence to support that conclusion. As I (and others) have already explained to you several times, the number isn't down 20,000 from years prior at this point in the process. Assuming it is "only" overstating the issue by 10,000 that's a huge, intellectually dishonest overstatement. Plus, as we have also explained, even the article acknowledges that many students typically do registration confirmation in person so it isn't clear whether some of these "missing" students are even missing, or just attending after having failed to register.

No one is saying kids shouldn't be in school. What we are saying is that this article provides fuel for a fire where there might not even be smoke.

I am loving the DCUM Hill and upper NW parents who don't want these poor and homeless kids anywhere near their schools but have recently decided to mention them because it tracks with their narrative that they want to go back to school.

Last year, there were 99,000 students in the system.

This year, only 77,000 have logged into a class at least once.

That means almost one-quarter of the students have yet to attend a single class this year.

How many thousands more have attended only one or two or three classes and then quit?

This translates to an astronomical absentee rate.

This is happening across the country. It's not just DC.

Our school district is now just throwing out crazy numbers. 93% login rate! Yay! 7 out of 10 of the kids in the district qualify for free lunch and live in transient housing and yet magically they're at 93% login rates with no explanation of what counts as a login or how long they're actually staying on. The four schools in the district who are in multimillion dollar neighborhoods meanwhile have a facebook group with a 1,000 parents in it saying that distance learning is not working. We switched to a private after seeing those numbers, the outright lying is just too much.

This made me LOL. OMG, a whole fb page???!!!

You’re LOLing but in a week they’ve managed to get all over our local news and op-Ed of the newspaper, and they’re growing by the day. The neighboring district was virtual only and these types of folks got them to open up in the span of two weeks, without mandating masks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

Learn to read. The thread title is about the "20,000 kids missing". The issue I took with both the headline and the article is that is provides no evidence to support that conclusion. As I (and others) have already explained to you several times, the number isn't down 20,000 from years prior at this point in the process. Assuming it is "only" overstating the issue by 10,000 that's a huge, intellectually dishonest overstatement. Plus, as we have also explained, even the article acknowledges that many students typically do registration confirmation in person so it isn't clear whether some of these "missing" students are even missing, or just attending after having failed to register.

No one is saying kids shouldn't be in school. What we are saying is that this article provides fuel for a fire where there might not even be smoke.

I am loving the DCUM Hill and upper NW parents who don't want these poor and homeless kids anywhere near their schools but have recently decided to mention them because it tracks with their narrative that they want to go back to school.

Last year, there were 99,000 students in the system.

This year, only 77,000 have logged into a class at least once.

That means almost one-quarter of the students have yet to attend a single class this year.

How many thousands more have attended only one or two or three classes and then quit?

This translates to an astronomical absentee rate.

This is happening across the country. It's not just DC.

Seattle just released numbers showing less than half of elementary students there logged on for online learning.

https://www.seattletimes.com/education-lab/limited-data-show-less-than-half-of-seattles-elementary-school-kids-logged-in-to-districts-online-portal-last-spring/

Less than half have logged in at some schools in Chicago:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-cps-first-day-remote-learning-attendance-20200911-o7bnmhjnovhwlabow35a53fo3q-story.html

One quarter of students missing in Detroit:

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2020/09/16/detroit-school-district-online-learning/5816523002/

Turns out if you make it extremely easy to skip school, lots of people will

[Anonymous]

Update per Mayor Bowser's townhall today (9/17)

As of 9/15 - 87.6K enrolled in DCPS or DCPCS [last year # was 92K]


Now "missing" 5K students year over year

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Update per Mayor Bowser's townhall today (9/17)

As of 9/15 - 87.6K enrolled in DCPS or DCPCS [last year # was 92K]


Now "missing" 5K students year over year

Seems like the more relevant statistic is how many are logging in for class.

[Anonymous]

Less than half have logged in at some schools in Chicago:

https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-cps-...novhwlabow35a53fo3q-story.html

One quarter of students missing in Detroit:

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/de...ct-online-learning/5816523002/

I'm beginning to wonder what I'm doing to my children, making them log on and attend classes.

Wow, those numbers are shocking. Horrifying.

The numbers surely understate how little engaged students are. The schools are making it incredibly easy to declare yourself present -- you have to do almost nothing -- and yet the attendance numbers are still incredibly bad.

It is seriously shocking. Do we have any stats on how many are logging on regularly in DC? I don't see why simple "enrollment" is helpful when trying to assess--either for good or bad.

[Anonymous]

I really think most of this is all the shuffling around going on. Kids moving in with grandparents, enrolling or unenrolling at private schools, kindergartners being pulled to redshirt or attend an in person day care etc.

Let's see how things look in October before panicking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I really think most of this is all the shuffling around going on. Kids moving in with grandparents, enrolling or unenrolling at private schools, kindergartners being pulled to redshirt or attend an in person day care etc.

Let's see how things look in October before panicking.

moving in with grandparents? seriously? that is totally ridiculous. it is exactly what it looks like: massive numbers of poor students dropping out of the school system altogether. it's happening in city after city. everyone should be panicking.

[Anonymous]

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We are already making plans for Fall 2021 for my kids, I think even if the public school kids go back next year, it won't be an environment that will be safe or conducive to learning.

Can you elaborate on why you think this?

I'm not the PP, but I can say that DC's current mayor has never once chose what's best for kids over what's politically expedient. I have zero faith in Bowser to do the right thing--if she does it'll be completely coincidental. Furthermore, there's not even a majority of the DC Council who are committed to kids safety and learning over political expediency. It's possible I'm wrong this time, but lifelong residency in DC tells me otherwise.