20,000 kids missing from DCPS

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Anonymous wrote:pp here - but I agree that many are getting lost and don’t want to sweep that under the rug. I just wonder if 20k includes incomplete enrollment. A friend had to do it 3 times for one kid.

The title of the article OP linked is “ D.C. says 20,000 students started the enrollment process, but did not complete it‘

I posted before, but there’s a pre certified enrollment that automatically reenrolls kids. The article didn’t specific if that number includes these kids. I would be more worried if they were 20k proactively enrolled vs. automatically re-enrolled that parents maybe aren’t aware of.

The automatic enrollment gets deleted if they take a lottery slot, so it’s still pretty worrying if 20,000 people opted not to reenroll their kid in DCPS/DCPCS. 20,000 kids did not head to private school or move.

The article says that last year, at this point, 10K kids had not completed the process. Many of those kids were attending school, and just had outstanding paperwork.

My guess is you're going to have more people having trouble with the paperwork, or ignoring the requests because they aren't seeing school staff face to face. You're also going to have more kids whose parents made another choice like keeping a preschooler in daycare, or at home, or homeschooling, or going to private, or sending them to Grandma's.

So, some fraction of these numbers may be kids in alarming situations, but not all 20K or even the majority.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:pp here - but I agree that many are getting lost and don’t want to sweep that under the rug. I just wonder if 20k includes incomplete enrollment. A friend had to do it 3 times for one kid.

The title of the article OP linked is “ D.C. says 20,000 students started the enrollment process, but did not complete it‘

I posted before, but there’s a pre certified enrollment that automatically reenrolls kids. The article didn’t specific if that number includes these kids. I would be more worried if they were 20k proactively enrolled vs. automatically re-enrolled that parents maybe aren’t aware of.

The automatic enrollment gets deleted if they take a lottery slot, so it’s still pretty worrying if 20,000 people opted not to reenroll their kid in DCPS/DCPCS. 20,000 kids did not head to private school or move.

The article says that last year, at this point, 10K kids had not completed the process. Many of those kids were attending school, and just had outstanding paperwork.

My guess is you're going to have more people having trouble with the paperwork, or ignoring the requests because they aren't seeing school staff face to face. You're also going to have more kids whose parents made another choice like keeping a preschooler in daycare, or at home, or homeschooling, or going to private, or sending them to Grandma's.

So, some fraction of these numbers may be kids in alarming situations, but not all 20K or even the majority.

Typical Perry Stein article. She wrote words that supported the premise she started with. Grudgingly included facts that didn't fit with her conclusion but buried them deep. Even if you assume everything she wrote is well sourced it is still delta of 10k, not 20k. And there is no relative data for surrounding districts. Or data on how many people usually complete the enrollment online vs in person. It is kind of a Rorschach Test; you see what you want to see, even if there is nothing there. Which for DCUM readers is like blood in the water.

[Anonymous]

I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

[Anonymous]

For everyone saying that schools should open, where were you in the spring/summer? Were you contacting the Mayor/DME/your school (DCPS/charter)? I was, and I got crickets. I got support from very few other parents.

Instead of commenting here, please make sure you are advocating for schools to reopen, in whatever way you can.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For everyone saying that schools should open, where were you in the spring/summer? Were you contacting the Mayor/DME/your school (DCPS/charter)? I was, and I got crickets. I got support from very few other parents.

Instead of commenting here, please make sure you are advocating for schools to reopen, in whatever way you can.

In spring we thought we'd be back in the fall. Over the summer that carrot was still there. The full DL switch was very late summer

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

There are thousands of kids who don’t attend normally due to homelessness, neglect, slow foster system, etc. Where was the concern then?

We are all concerned about distance learning for the foreseeable future.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

I love how alarmed your about about facts not actually supported by the article.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For everyone saying that schools should open, where were you in the spring/summer? Were you contacting the Mayor/DME/your school (DCPS/charter)? I was, and I got crickets. I got support from very few other parents.

Instead of commenting here, please make sure you are advocating for schools to reopen, in whatever way you can.

In spring we thought we'd be back in the fall. Over the summer that carrot was still there. The full DL switch was very late summer

Anyone who ever thought school would go back in October is just foolish, I'm sorry. I was staunchly opposed to virtual learning, especially for the younger kids, partly because I knew that DCPS was just telling us October to prevent a freak out. It will be all school year. It's always been until a vaccine; they just won't say it.

You were duped, I'm sorry to say it. It's all year. Start advocating for spring/next fall NOW if you're so fed up with distance learning or worried about kids (which was also predictable).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For everyone saying that schools should open, where were you in the spring/summer? Were you contacting the Mayor/DME/your school (DCPS/charter)? I was, and I got crickets. I got support from very few other parents.

Instead of commenting here, please make sure you are advocating for schools to reopen, in whatever way you can.

In spring we thought we'd be back in the fall. Over the summer that carrot was still there. The full DL switch was very late summer

Anyone who ever thought school would go back in October is just foolish, I'm sorry. I was staunchly opposed to virtual learning, especially for the younger kids, partly because I knew that DCPS was just telling us October to prevent a freak out. It will be all school year. It's always been until a vaccine; they just won't say it.

You were duped, I'm sorry to say it. It's all year. Start advocating for spring/next fall NOW if you're so fed up with distance learning or worried about kids (which was also predictable).

There won’t be a vaccine for children for many years. You can’t just give an adult vaccine to children. No pharmaceutical company is even working on a vaccine for children.

We should open schools now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For everyone saying that schools should open, where were you in the spring/summer? Were you contacting the Mayor/DME/your school (DCPS/charter)? I was, and I got crickets. I got support from very few other parents.

Instead of commenting here, please make sure you are advocating for schools to reopen, in whatever way you can.

In spring we thought we'd be back in the fall. Over the summer that carrot was still there. The full DL switch was very late summer

Anyone who ever thought school would go back in October is just foolish, I'm sorry. I was staunchly opposed to virtual learning, especially for the younger kids, partly because I knew that DCPS was just telling us October to prevent a freak out. It will be all school year. It's always been until a vaccine; they just won't say it.

You were duped, I'm sorry to say it. It's all year. Start advocating for spring/next fall NOW if you're so fed up with distance learning or worried about kids (which was also predictable).

There won’t be a vaccine for children for many years. You can’t just give an adult vaccine to children. No pharmaceutical company is even working on a vaccine for children.

We should open schools now.

PP here. I'm not disagreeing with you. I want nothing more than schools to be open. I've been shouting this from the rooftops since June. DCPS/the Mayor, whether it's because of the teachers union or other reasons, will not reopen until there is a vaccine, whatever that means (adult vaccine, child vaccine, I don't know). I'm starting to think it won't be next fall, but I'm still going to advocate.

[Anonymous]

This is so stupid. Just reopen the schools. Kids are in class across the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is so stupid. Just reopen the schools. Kids are in class across the country.

That's exactly what my teenager would say. "This is so stupid. Just do what I want. Everyone else is doing it." Wait, Shoshanna, is that you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I love how little concern there is on this thread about thousands of kids not attending school AT ALL. It’s just belly aching about Perry Stein or hairsplitting over the numbers. No one expresses any concern whatsoever about the kids.

Learn to read. The thread title is about the "20,000 kids missing". The issue I took with both the headline and the article is that is provides no evidence to support that conclusion. As I (and others) have already explained to you several times, the number isn't down 20,000 from years prior at this point in the process. Assuming it is "only" overstating the issue by 10,000 that's a huge, intellectually dishonest overstatement. Plus, as we have also explained, even the article acknowledges that many students typically do registration confirmation in person so it isn't clear whether some of these "missing" students are even missing, or just attending after having failed to register.

No one is saying kids shouldn't be in school. What we are saying is that this article provides fuel for a fire where there might not even be smoke.

I am loving the DCUM Hill and upper NW parents who don't want these poor and homeless kids anywhere near their schools but have recently decided to mention them because it tracks with their narrative that they want to go back to school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so stupid. Just reopen the schools. Kids are in class across the country.

That's exactly what my teenager would say. "This is so stupid. Just do what I want. Everyone else is doing it." Wait, Shoshanna, is that you?

Why’d you specifically use that name?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is so stupid. Just reopen the schools. Kids are in class across the country.

That's exactly what my teenager would say. "This is so stupid. Just do what I want. Everyone else is doing it." Wait, Shoshanna, is that you?

Racist.