20,000 kids missing from DCPS

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a diverse Capitol Hill DCPS and there are 2 kids who haven't shown up for K once. They're on the teacher's schedule for testing (no idea if they showed up to that) so I don't think they've officially switched to a different school or anything, but they have literally never logged in for class AFAIK. A handful of other kids are rarely there. I don't know the situations of these kids, so it could be a mix of falling through the cracks entirely and hyper-involved homeschooling parents who are giving their kids a much better education. I worry a lot for the kids though and also for what classes are going to be like when kids do get back. There's always a range of abilities, but if they keep with the normal social promotion policy, it is going to be *insane* next year.

Maury isn’t diverse

Haha, 100% it’s not diverse at all.

I’m the PP and I’m at LT... which is diverse. Not sure why you randomly assumed I was at Maury when I said diverse? You’re right that Maury isn’t that diverse, but both LT and Peabody/Watkins are, so not sure why you’d start with the assumption that I’m lying?

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Anonymous wrote:I really think most of this is all the shuffling around going on. Kids moving in with grandparents, enrolling or unenrolling at private schools, kindergartners being pulled to redshirt or attend an in person day care etc.

Let's see how things look in October before panicking.

moving in with grandparents? seriously? that is totally ridiculous. it is exactly what it looks like: massive numbers of poor students dropping out of the school system altogether. it's happening in city after city. everyone should be panicking.

But it's not what Perry presents it as. I'm at a high poverty school. Our students are enrolled and attending. I know staff at other high poverty schools and their students are there too. The issue is PAPERWORK and DC's strict requirement of enrolling and proving residency each year. The only grades that are truly under-enrolled are pre-school and pre-K. The city does need to address this, especially for at-risk kids.

Nobody cares about the paperwork (and we know DC doesn't lift a finger to try to prove residency). The issue is the number of kids logging into class. Last year there were 99,000 students in the system. According to the story, only 77,000 have actually logged in at least once. That's 20,000 who have never logged in -- not once. How many thousands more have only logged in once or twice?

The city should release daily figures on how many students are logging in.

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Anonymous wrote:I really think most of this is all the shuffling around going on. Kids moving in with grandparents, enrolling or unenrolling at private schools, kindergartners being pulled to redshirt or attend an in person day care etc.

Let's see how things look in October before panicking.

moving in with grandparents? seriously? that is totally ridiculous. it is exactly what it looks like: massive numbers of poor students dropping out of the school system altogether. it's happening in city after city. everyone should be panicking.

But it's not what Perry presents it as. I'm at a high poverty school. Our students are enrolled and attending. I know staff at other high poverty schools and their students are there too. The issue is PAPERWORK and DC's strict requirement of enrolling and proving residency each year. The only grades that are truly under-enrolled are pre-school and pre-K. The city does need to address this, especially for at-risk kids.

Nobody cares about the paperwork (and we know DC doesn't lift a finger to try to prove residency). The issue is the number of kids logging into class. Last year there were 99,000 students in the system. According to the story, only 77,000 have actually logged in at least once. That's 20,000 who have never logged in -- not once. How many thousands more have only logged in once or twice?

The city should release daily figures on how many students are logging in.

As far as I can tell as a teacher the only ‘attendance’ data DCPS has is kids signing into Canvas at some point during the day. There is no official class period attendance being recorded. Teachers were told not to record attendance for class in Aspen. So there is no way the percent of kids attending class is even close to the percent of kids signing into Canvas. As an anecdote, my school was really proud of getting 97% attendance one day when I had at least 8 kids out of my classes (high school).

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Anonymous wrote:I really think most of this is all the shuffling around going on. Kids moving in with grandparents, enrolling or unenrolling at private schools, kindergartners being pulled to redshirt or attend an in person day care etc.

Let's see how things look in October before panicking.

moving in with grandparents? seriously? that is totally ridiculous. it is exactly what it looks like: massive numbers of poor students dropping out of the school system altogether. it's happening in city after city. everyone should be panicking.

But it's not what Perry presents it as. I'm at a high poverty school. Our students are enrolled and attending. I know staff at other high poverty schools and their students are there too. The issue is PAPERWORK and DC's strict requirement of enrolling and proving residency each year. The only grades that are truly under-enrolled are pre-school and pre-K. The city does need to address this, especially for at-risk kids.

Nobody cares about the paperwork (and we know DC doesn't lift a finger to try to prove residency). The issue is the number of kids logging into class. Last year there were 99,000 students in the system. According to the story, only 77,000 have actually logged in at least once. That's 20,000 who have never logged in -- not once. How many thousands more have only logged in once or twice?

The city should release daily figures on how many students are logging in.

As far as I can tell as a teacher the only ‘attendance’ data DCPS has is kids signing into Canvas at some point during the day. There is no official class period attendance being recorded. Teachers were told not to record attendance for class in Aspen. So there is no way the percent of kids attending class is even close to the percent of kids signing into Canvas. As an anecdote, my school was really proud of getting 97% attendance one day when I had at least 8 kids out of my classes (high school).

the city seems to have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy on children attending school.

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Really terrible how DCPS is playing with attendance numbers. We got a warning email from Deal after the first week when my kid didn’t sign into canvas on Wednesday because he had absolutely nothing to do. They said we would have to have a truancy meeting or something like that if he didn’t click into canvas on Wednesday at least once. Now we do it but it is just for show

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Anonymous wrote:I really think most of this is all the shuffling around going on. Kids moving in with grandparents, enrolling or unenrolling at private schools, kindergartners being pulled to redshirt or attend an in person day care etc.

Let's see how things look in October before panicking.

moving in with grandparents? seriously? that is totally ridiculous. it is exactly what it looks like: massive numbers of poor students dropping out of the school system altogether. it's happening in city after city. everyone should be panicking.

But it's not what Perry presents it as. I'm at a high poverty school. Our students are enrolled and attending. I know staff at other high poverty schools and their students are there too. The issue is PAPERWORK and DC's strict requirement of enrolling and proving residency each year. The only grades that are truly under-enrolled are pre-school and pre-K. The city does need to address this, especially for at-risk kids.

Nobody cares about the paperwork (and we know DC doesn't lift a finger to try to prove residency). The issue is the number of kids logging into class. Last year there were 99,000 students in the system. According to the story, only 77,000 have actually logged in at least once. That's 20,000 who have never logged in -- not once. How many thousands more have only logged in once or twice?

The city should release daily figures on how many students are logging in.

As far as I can tell as a teacher the only ‘attendance’ data DCPS has is kids signing into Canvas at some point during the day. There is no official class period attendance being recorded. Teachers were told not to record attendance for class in Aspen. So there is no way the percent of kids attending class is even close to the percent of kids signing into Canvas. As an anecdote, my school was really proud of getting 97% attendance one day when I had at least 8 kids out of my classes (high school).

the city seems to have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy on children attending school.

That is ridiculous. What happens when school does return in person and these kids are 2,3,4 years below grade level?

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Anonymous wrote:I really think most of this is all the shuffling around going on. Kids moving in with grandparents, enrolling or unenrolling at private schools, kindergartners being pulled to redshirt or attend an in person day care etc.

Let's see how things look in October before panicking.

moving in with grandparents? seriously? that is totally ridiculous. it is exactly what it looks like: massive numbers of poor students dropping out of the school system altogether. it's happening in city after city. everyone should be panicking.

But it's not what Perry presents it as. I'm at a high poverty school. Our students are enrolled and attending. I know staff at other high poverty schools and their students are there too. The issue is PAPERWORK and DC's strict requirement of enrolling and proving residency each year. The only grades that are truly under-enrolled are pre-school and pre-K. The city does need to address this, especially for at-risk kids.

Nobody cares about the paperwork (and we know DC doesn't lift a finger to try to prove residency). The issue is the number of kids logging into class. Last year there were 99,000 students in the system. According to the story, only 77,000 have actually logged in at least once. That's 20,000 who have never logged in -- not once. How many thousands more have only logged in once or twice?

The city should release daily figures on how many students are logging in.

As far as I can tell as a teacher the only ‘attendance’ data DCPS has is kids signing into Canvas at some point during the day. There is no official class period attendance being recorded. Teachers were told not to record attendance for class in Aspen. So there is no way the percent of kids attending class is even close to the percent of kids signing into Canvas. As an anecdote, my school was really proud of getting 97% attendance one day when I had at least 8 kids out of my classes (high school).

the city seems to have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy on children attending school.

That is ridiculous. What happens when school does return in person and these kids are 2,3,4 years below grade level?

it won't be the rich kids who will be behind.

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Anonymous wrote:I really think most of this is all the shuffling around going on. Kids moving in with grandparents, enrolling or unenrolling at private schools, kindergartners being pulled to redshirt or attend an in person day care etc.

Let's see how things look in October before panicking.

moving in with grandparents? seriously? that is totally ridiculous. it is exactly what it looks like: massive numbers of poor students dropping out of the school system altogether. it's happening in city after city. everyone should be panicking.

But it's not what Perry presents it as. I'm at a high poverty school. Our students are enrolled and attending. I know staff at other high poverty schools and their students are there too. The issue is PAPERWORK and DC's strict requirement of enrolling and proving residency each year. The only grades that are truly under-enrolled are pre-school and pre-K. The city does need to address this, especially for at-risk kids.

Nobody cares about the paperwork (and we know DC doesn't lift a finger to try to prove residency). The issue is the number of kids logging into class. Last year there were 99,000 students in the system. According to the story, only 77,000 have actually logged in at least once. That's 20,000 who have never logged in -- not once. How many thousands more have only logged in once or twice?

The city should release daily figures on how many students are logging in.

As far as I can tell as a teacher the only ‘attendance’ data DCPS has is kids signing into Canvas at some point during the day. There is no official class period attendance being recorded. Teachers were told not to record attendance for class in Aspen. So there is no way the percent of kids attending class is even close to the percent of kids signing into Canvas. As an anecdote, my school was really proud of getting 97% attendance one day when I had at least 8 kids out of my classes (high school).

the city seems to have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy on children attending school.

That is ridiculous. What happens when school does return in person and these kids are 2,3,4 years below grade level?

The blame goes on the environment the families are in and not on DCPS for only supporting distance learning because there's no data showing the kids didn't attend.

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Anonymous wrote:I really think most of this is all the shuffling around going on. Kids moving in with grandparents, enrolling or unenrolling at private schools, kindergartners being pulled to redshirt or attend an in person day care etc.

Let's see how things look in October before panicking.

moving in with grandparents? seriously? that is totally ridiculous. it is exactly what it looks like: massive numbers of poor students dropping out of the school system altogether. it's happening in city after city. everyone should be panicking.

But it's not what Perry presents it as. I'm at a high poverty school. Our students are enrolled and attending. I know staff at other high poverty schools and their students are there too. The issue is PAPERWORK and DC's strict requirement of enrolling and proving residency each year. The only grades that are truly under-enrolled are pre-school and pre-K. The city does need to address this, especially for at-risk kids.

Nobody cares about the paperwork (and we know DC doesn't lift a finger to try to prove residency). The issue is the number of kids logging into class. Last year there were 99,000 students in the system. According to the story, only 77,000 have actually logged in at least once. That's 20,000 who have never logged in -- not once. How many thousands more have only logged in once or twice?

The city should release daily figures on how many students are logging in.

As far as I can tell as a teacher the only ‘attendance’ data DCPS has is kids signing into Canvas at some point during the day. There is no official class period attendance being recorded. Teachers were told not to record attendance for class in Aspen. So there is no way the percent of kids attending class is even close to the percent of kids signing into Canvas. As an anecdote, my school was really proud of getting 97% attendance one day when I had at least 8 kids out of my classes (high school).

the city seems to have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy on children attending school.

That is ridiculous. What happens when school does return in person and these kids are 2,3,4 years below grade level?

The blame goes on the environment the families are in and not on DCPS for only supporting distance learning because there's no data showing the kids didn't attend.

+1

If there’s no actual live class attendance data they can claim kids logged in every day.

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Story about how DC teachers have noticed a number of children sitting in homes with chirping smoke detectors.

WTF people. If you're not motivated enough to change a 9V battery in a smoke detector what can we then assume about the educational outcomes in that house?

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Anonymous wrote:I really think most of this is all the shuffling around going on. Kids moving in with grandparents, enrolling or unenrolling at private schools, kindergartners being pulled to redshirt or attend an in person day care etc.

Let's see how things look in October before panicking.

moving in with grandparents? seriously? that is totally ridiculous. it is exactly what it looks like: massive numbers of poor students dropping out of the school system altogether. it's happening in city after city. everyone should be panicking.

But it's not what Perry presents it as. I'm at a high poverty school. Our students are enrolled and attending. I know staff at other high poverty schools and their students are there too. The issue is PAPERWORK and DC's strict requirement of enrolling and proving residency each year. The only grades that are truly under-enrolled are pre-school and pre-K. The city does need to address this, especially for at-risk kids.

Nobody cares about the paperwork (and we know DC doesn't lift a finger to try to prove residency). The issue is the number of kids logging into class. Last year there were 99,000 students in the system. According to the story, only 77,000 have actually logged in at least once. That's 20,000 who have never logged in -- not once. How many thousands more have only logged in once or twice?

The city should release daily figures on how many students are logging in.

As far as I can tell as a teacher the only ‘attendance’ data DCPS has is kids signing into Canvas at some point during the day. There is no official class period attendance being recorded. Teachers were told not to record attendance for class in Aspen. So there is no way the percent of kids attending class is even close to the percent of kids signing into Canvas. As an anecdote, my school was really proud of getting 97% attendance one day when I had at least 8 kids out of my classes (high school).

the city seems to have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy on children attending school.

That is ridiculous. What happens when school does return in person and these kids are 2,3,4 years below grade level?

it won't be the rich kids who will be behind.

But if they went to a Wilson feeder they will be in the same class as the rich kids-honors for all at Wilson. Parents are going to love that teachers are going to have spend time on children who are not near grade level.

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Anonymous wrote:Story about how DC teachers have noticed a number of children sitting in homes with chirping smoke detectors.

WTF people. If you're not motivated enough to change a 9V battery in a smoke detector what can we then assume about the educational outcomes in that house?

The two low-income households I know best (one I volunteer with and one is a tenant) have both had this issue! I've thought a lot about it and think it's a combination of
* 9V batteries cost money
* poor physical shape so don't want to get up on a chair or stepladder/don't have anything sturdy enough to climb on
* worried about breaking the detector/don't know how to do it
* feeling that someone else should do it for them because they pay rent
* so used to tuning out difficult or annoying things that they literally don't hear it.

I think it's actually an amazing example of how miserable generational poverty is. There are so many barriers, and people are so constantly under stress and experiencing chaos that they don't know where to begin, and fixing the chirp doesn't even register.

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Anonymous wrote:I really think most of this is all the shuffling around going on. Kids moving in with grandparents, enrolling or unenrolling at private schools, kindergartners being pulled to redshirt or attend an in person day care etc.

Let's see how things look in October before panicking.

moving in with grandparents? seriously? that is totally ridiculous. it is exactly what it looks like: massive numbers of poor students dropping out of the school system altogether. it's happening in city after city. everyone should be panicking.

But it's not what Perry presents it as. I'm at a high poverty school. Our students are enrolled and attending. I know staff at other high poverty schools and their students are there too. The issue is PAPERWORK and DC's strict requirement of enrolling and proving residency each year. The only grades that are truly under-enrolled are pre-school and pre-K. The city does need to address this, especially for at-risk kids.

Nobody cares about the paperwork (and we know DC doesn't lift a finger to try to prove residency). The issue is the number of kids logging into class. Last year there were 99,000 students in the system. According to the story, only 77,000 have actually logged in at least once. That's 20,000 who have never logged in -- not once. How many thousands more have only logged in once or twice?

The city should release daily figures on how many students are logging in.

As far as I can tell as a teacher the only ‘attendance’ data DCPS has is kids signing into Canvas at some point during the day. There is no official class period attendance being recorded. Teachers were told not to record attendance for class in Aspen. So there is no way the percent of kids attending class is even close to the percent of kids signing into Canvas. As an anecdote, my school was really proud of getting 97% attendance one day when I had at least 8 kids out of my classes (high school).

the city seems to have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy on children attending school.

That is ridiculous. What happens when school does return in person and these kids are 2,3,4 years below grade level?

it won't be the rich kids who will be behind.

But if they went to a Wilson feeder they will be in the same class as the rich kids-honors for all at Wilson. Parents are going to love that teachers are going to have spend time on children who are not near grade level.

Good grief - this isn’t about you. Your kid will be fine. Be grateful. https://wamu.org/story/20/09/17/school-workers-become-emergency-responders-in-d-c-communities-hit-hard-by-pandemic/

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Anonymous wrote:I really think most of this is all the shuffling around going on. Kids moving in with grandparents, enrolling or unenrolling at private schools, kindergartners being pulled to redshirt or attend an in person day care etc.

Let's see how things look in October before panicking.

moving in with grandparents? seriously? that is totally ridiculous. it is exactly what it looks like: massive numbers of poor students dropping out of the school system altogether. it's happening in city after city. everyone should be panicking.

But it's not what Perry presents it as. I'm at a high poverty school. Our students are enrolled and attending. I know staff at other high poverty schools and their students are there too. The issue is PAPERWORK and DC's strict requirement of enrolling and proving residency each year. The only grades that are truly under-enrolled are pre-school and pre-K. The city does need to address this, especially for at-risk kids.

Nobody cares about the paperwork (and we know DC doesn't lift a finger to try to prove residency). The issue is the number of kids logging into class. Last year there were 99,000 students in the system. According to the story, only 77,000 have actually logged in at least once. That's 20,000 who have never logged in -- not once. How many thousands more have only logged in once or twice?

The city should release daily figures on how many students are logging in.

As far as I can tell as a teacher the only ‘attendance’ data DCPS has is kids signing into Canvas at some point during the day. There is no official class period attendance being recorded. Teachers were told not to record attendance for class in Aspen. So there is no way the percent of kids attending class is even close to the percent of kids signing into Canvas. As an anecdote, my school was really proud of getting 97% attendance one day when I had at least 8 kids out of my classes (high school).

the city seems to have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy on children attending school.

That is ridiculous. What happens when school does return in person and these kids are 2,3,4 years below grade level?

it won't be the rich kids who will be behind.

How is this any different than today? There is a large group of DC graduates who can’t read and rarely attended class but are high school graduates. Plenty from Wilson too. DC rather devalue the brand than enforce standards because expectations are racist

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Anonymous wrote:I really think most of this is all the shuffling around going on. Kids moving in with grandparents, enrolling or unenrolling at private schools, kindergartners being pulled to redshirt or attend an in person day care etc.

Let's see how things look in October before panicking.

moving in with grandparents? seriously? that is totally ridiculous. it is exactly what it looks like: massive numbers of poor students dropping out of the school system altogether. it's happening in city after city. everyone should be panicking.

But it's not what Perry presents it as. I'm at a high poverty school. Our students are enrolled and attending. I know staff at other high poverty schools and their students are there too. The issue is PAPERWORK and DC's strict requirement of enrolling and proving residency each year. The only grades that are truly under-enrolled are pre-school and pre-K. The city does need to address this, especially for at-risk kids.

Nobody cares about the paperwork (and we know DC doesn't lift a finger to try to prove residency). The issue is the number of kids logging into class. Last year there were 99,000 students in the system. According to the story, only 77,000 have actually logged in at least once. That's 20,000 who have never logged in -- not once. How many thousands more have only logged in once or twice?

The city should release daily figures on how many students are logging in.

As far as I can tell as a teacher the only ‘attendance’ data DCPS has is kids signing into Canvas at some point during the day. There is no official class period attendance being recorded. Teachers were told not to record attendance for class in Aspen. So there is no way the percent of kids attending class is even close to the percent of kids signing into Canvas. As an anecdote, my school was really proud of getting 97% attendance one day when I had at least 8 kids out of my classes (high school).

the city seems to have a "don't ask, don't tell" policy on children attending school.

That is ridiculous. What happens when school does return in person and these kids are 2,3,4 years below grade level?

it won't be the rich kids who will be behind.

How is this any different than today? There is a large group of DC graduates who can’t read and rarely attended class but are high school graduates. Plenty from Wilson too. DC rather devalue the brand than enforce standards because expectations are racist

Not as much to do with race as it does socioeconomic status but I suppose people would rather try to subtly imply something else.
I do think DC is actually in theory ahead in reading, as we have many science based approaches. The problem is this has not be enforced at all schools. We need to do better to ensure all children are strong readers.