The Last Skywalker— with Spoilers

[Anonymous]

How the hell is dude not dead after this?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm laughing at the desperate prequel fanboys and girls. Sorry, the prequels sucked. Most rational fans recognize that.

Thankfully George Lucas sold to Disney or we would have had those monstrosities duplicated in 7-9. Did you see the interview where Lucas was going to go full on Midiclorian in 7-9, and add another kind of magic force virus? What a mess that would have been.

And the Disney ones suck even worse. Hence why every movie since 2015 has been losing money.

Say what you want, the prequels are canon and come from Lucas. They aren’t lazy rehashes like the Disney movies that just lazily repeat the original trilogy with awful badly written characters no one will care about in 3 years.

Losing money??! Are you delusional?

First of all, Lucas said the Disney ones are canon. So you need to get over that. Second, they’ve all made a TON of money.

Force Awakens: budget $260-300M; box office $2B
Last Jedi: budget $200-300M; box office $1.3B
Rise of Skywalker: budget $275M; box office $453 (and it’s been out for a week)

I disagree that the movies are lazy. I love the new characters. The Skywalker story wasn’t finished because Palpatine wasn’t dead yet, which is why the themes had to be revisited.

There are 3 more Star Wars movies coming out that Lucasfilms has said will be very different, so you’ll get your different themes then.

Umm the delusional one is you. In your own post, you’ll see the movies have been losing money yearly, not growing. Do you know how basic math and economics work? You clearly do not.

https://slate.com/culture/2019/12/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-box-office-opening-weekend.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:George Lucas said several times that Palpy was dead in RoJ. Dead, dead, dead. 100% dead. He was resurrected without an explanation to save Disney's arse. All the voice ghosts were done to save SW Disney reputation. The ONLY reason people are liking this RoS better is because true and tried villain that Lucas wrote came back.

Kathleen Kennedy said it had always been the plan to bring him back.

You don’t think it’s plausible that a powerful Sith Lord could figure out how to bring himself back in some form? It’s not unprecedented. See: Voldemort.

Fail.

Colin Trevarrow was the original screenwriter for Episode 9. Palpatine was NOT in the script.

https://collider.com/rise-of-skywalker-palpatine-was-jj-abrams-idea-not-colin-trevorrow/

JJ only contacted Ian in 2018 about reprising Palpatine...
This is out of the actors own mouth.

https://youtu.be/dLP6BKZfx6Q

Palpatine was NEVER planned. It was a last minute decision.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm laughing at the desperate prequel fanboys and girls. Sorry, the prequels sucked. Most rational fans recognize that.

Thankfully George Lucas sold to Disney or we would have had those monstrosities duplicated in 7-9. Did you see the interview where Lucas was going to go full on Midiclorian in 7-9, and add another kind of magic force virus? What a mess that would have been.

And the Disney ones suck even worse. Hence why every movie since 2015 has been losing money.

Say what you want, the prequels are canon and come from Lucas. They aren’t lazy rehashes like the Disney movies that just lazily repeat the original trilogy with awful badly written characters no one will care about in 3 years.

Losing money??! Are you delusional?

First of all, Lucas said the Disney ones are canon. So you need to get over that. Second, they’ve all made a TON of money.

Force Awakens: budget $260-300M; box office $2B
Last Jedi: budget $200-300M; box office $1.3B
Rise of Skywalker: budget $275M; box office $453 (and it’s been out for a week)

I disagree that the movies are lazy. I love the new characters. The Skywalker story wasn’t finished because Palpatine wasn’t dead yet, which is why the themes had to be revisited.

There are 3 more Star Wars movies coming out that Lucasfilms has said will be very different, so you’ll get your different themes then.

Umm the delusional one is you. In your own post, you’ll see the movies have been losing money yearly, not growing. Do you know how basic math and economics work? You clearly do not.

https://slate.com/culture/2019/12/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-box-office-opening-weekend.html

Huh?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:George Lucas said several times that Palpy was dead in RoJ. Dead, dead, dead. 100% dead. He was resurrected without an explanation to save Disney's arse. All the voice ghosts were done to save SW Disney reputation. The ONLY reason people are liking this RoS better is because true and tried villain that Lucas wrote came back.

Kathleen Kennedy said it had always been the plan to bring him back.

You don’t think it’s plausible that a powerful Sith Lord could figure out how to bring himself back in some form? It’s not unprecedented. See: Voldemort.

Fail.

Colin Trevarrow was the original screenwriter for Episode 9. Palpatine was NOT in the script.

https://collider.com/rise-of-skywalker-palpatine-was-jj-abrams-idea-not-colin-trevorrow/

JJ only contacted Ian in 2018 about reprising Palpatine...
This is out of the actors own mouth.

https://youtu.be/dLP6BKZfx6Q

Palpatine was NEVER planned. It was a last minute decision.

So you’re saying Kathleen Kennedy is lying?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:George Lucas said several times that Palpy was dead in RoJ. Dead, dead, dead. 100% dead. He was resurrected without an explanation to save Disney's arse. All the voice ghosts were done to save SW Disney reputation. The ONLY reason people are liking this RoS better is because true and tried villain that Lucas wrote came back.

Kathleen Kennedy said it had always been the plan to bring him back.

You don’t think it’s plausible that a powerful Sith Lord could figure out how to bring himself back in some form? It’s not unprecedented. See: Voldemort.

Fail.

Colin Trevarrow was the original screenwriter for Episode 9. Palpatine was NOT in the script.

https://collider.com/rise-of-skywalker-palpatine-was-jj-abrams-idea-not-colin-trevorrow/

JJ only contacted Ian in 2018 about reprising Palpatine...
This is out of the actors own mouth.

https://youtu.be/dLP6BKZfx6Q

Palpatine was NEVER planned. It was a last minute decision.

So you’re saying Kathleen Kennedy is lying?

Umm yes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm laughing at the desperate prequel fanboys and girls. Sorry, the prequels sucked. Most rational fans recognize that.

Thankfully George Lucas sold to Disney or we would have had those monstrosities duplicated in 7-9. Did you see the interview where Lucas was going to go full on Midiclorian in 7-9, and add another kind of magic force virus? What a mess that would have been.

And the Disney ones suck even worse. Hence why every movie since 2015 has been losing money.

Say what you want, the prequels are canon and come from Lucas. They aren’t lazy rehashes like the Disney movies that just lazily repeat the original trilogy with awful badly written characters no one will care about in 3 years.

Losing money??! Are you delusional?

First of all, Lucas said the Disney ones are canon. So you need to get over that. Second, they’ve all made a TON of money.

Force Awakens: budget $260-300M; box office $2B
Last Jedi: budget $200-300M; box office $1.3B
Rise of Skywalker: budget $275M; box office $453 (and it’s been out for a week)

I disagree that the movies are lazy. I love the new characters. The Skywalker story wasn’t finished because Palpatine wasn’t dead yet, which is why the themes had to be revisited.

There are 3 more Star Wars movies coming out that Lucasfilms has said will be very different, so you’ll get your different themes then.

Umm the delusional one is you. In your own post, you’ll see the movies have been losing money yearly, not growing. Do you know how basic math and economics work? You clearly do not.

https://slate.com/culture/2019/12/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-box-office-opening-weekend.html

Huh?

The movies....since 2015....have been losing....money.

2015: 2B
2016: 1.05B
2017: 1.3B
2018: 392 Million

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

[Anonymous]

Note: the 2016 movie wasn’t part of the main 1-9 series, hence the slight bump for 2017:

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not really into this genre, but went with the family today.

I thought the story line was good. I think some of you complainers need to lighten up and just enjoy it for what it is -- a science fantasy movie that is meant to entertain people for a few hours.

I felt like this one had more dialog and story than the SOLO or the one where Kylo killed his father. I'd prefer that they lose about 90% of the starship battles and light saber battles, but aside from that, it was good.

If you’re a lifelong fan of the saga, this movie introduces things never done before that don’t make any sense and retroactively ruin the original trilogy. That’s why people have issues with it.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm laughing at the desperate prequel fanboys and girls. Sorry, the prequels sucked. Most rational fans recognize that.

Thankfully George Lucas sold to Disney or we would have had those monstrosities duplicated in 7-9. Did you see the interview where Lucas was going to go full on Midiclorian in 7-9, and add another kind of magic force virus? What a mess that would have been.

And the Disney ones suck even worse. Hence why every movie since 2015 has been losing money.

Say what you want, the prequels are canon and come from Lucas. They aren’t lazy rehashes like the Disney movies that just lazily repeat the original trilogy with awful badly written characters no one will care about in 3 years.

Losing money??! Are you delusional?

First of all, Lucas said the Disney ones are canon. So you need to get over that. Second, they’ve all made a TON of money.

Force Awakens: budget $260-300M; box office $2B
Last Jedi: budget $200-300M; box office $1.3B
Rise of Skywalker: budget $275M; box office $453 (and it’s been out for a week)

I disagree that the movies are lazy. I love the new characters. The Skywalker story wasn’t finished because Palpatine wasn’t dead yet, which is why the themes had to be revisited.

There are 3 more Star Wars movies coming out that Lucasfilms has said will be very different, so you’ll get your different themes then.

Umm the delusional one is you. In your own post, you’ll see the movies have been losing money yearly, not growing. Do you know how basic math and economics work? You clearly do not.

https://slate.com/culture/2019/12/star-wars-rise-of-skywalker-box-office-opening-weekend.html

Huh?

The movies....since 2015....have been losing....money.

2015: 2B
2016: 1.05B
2017: 1.3B
2018: 392 Million

Why is this so hard for you to understand?

1. Over time they make more money. Unless you’re citing year-long figures, your post makes no sense.

2. Losing money usually means costing more than they bring in. Your post is exceptionally unclear at best.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not really into this genre, but went with the family today.

I thought the story line was good. I think some of you complainers need to lighten up and just enjoy it for what it is -- a science fantasy movie that is meant to entertain people for a few hours.

I felt like this one had more dialog and story than the SOLO or the one where Kylo killed his father. I'd prefer that they lose about 90% of the starship battles and light saber battles, but aside from that, it was good.

If you’re a lifelong fan of the saga, this movie introduces things never done before that don’t make any sense and retroactively ruin the original trilogy. That’s why people have issues with it.

+1

How does it ruin it?

I’m a lifelong fan and totally disagree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:George Lucas said several times that Palpy was dead in RoJ. Dead, dead, dead. 100% dead. He was resurrected without an explanation to save Disney's arse. All the voice ghosts were done to save SW Disney reputation. The ONLY reason people are liking this RoS better is because true and tried villain that Lucas wrote came back.

Kathleen Kennedy said it had always been the plan to bring him back.

You don’t think it’s plausible that a powerful Sith Lord could figure out how to bring himself back in some form? It’s not unprecedented. See: Voldemort.

Fail.

Colin Trevarrow was the original screenwriter for Episode 9. Palpatine was NOT in the script.

https://collider.com/rise-of-skywalker-palpatine-was-jj-abrams-idea-not-colin-trevorrow/

JJ only contacted Ian in 2018 about reprising Palpatine...
This is out of the actors own mouth.

https://youtu.be/dLP6BKZfx6Q

Palpatine was NEVER planned. It was a last minute decision.

So you’re saying Kathleen Kennedy is lying?

Umm yes.

Ok so it’s all a conspiracy to ruin Star Wars for you

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:George Lucas said several times that Palpy was dead in RoJ. Dead, dead, dead. 100% dead. He was resurrected without an explanation to save Disney's arse. All the voice ghosts were done to save SW Disney reputation. The ONLY reason people are liking this RoS better is because true and tried villain that Lucas wrote came back.

Kathleen Kennedy said it had always been the plan to bring him back.

You don’t think it’s plausible that a powerful Sith Lord could figure out how to bring himself back in some form? It’s not unprecedented. See: Voldemort.

Fail.

Colin Trevarrow was the original screenwriter for Episode 9. Palpatine was NOT in the script.

https://collider.com/rise-of-skywalker-palpatine-was-jj-abrams-idea-not-colin-trevorrow/

JJ only contacted Ian in 2018 about reprising Palpatine...
This is out of the actors own mouth.

https://youtu.be/dLP6BKZfx6Q

Palpatine was NEVER planned. It was a last minute decision.

So you’re saying Kathleen Kennedy is lying?

Umm yes.

Ok so it’s all a conspiracy to ruin Star Wars for you

Your posts make zero sense. Studio executives will lie to save face. Have you worked for any company before?

Nothing is a conspiracy. There were no plans to bring Palpatine back, from the actor and people inside the studio itself.

Kennedy or any studio exec will never come out and say “we never had a real plan going into these films”. That’s terrible press.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one else noticed the similarities in plot between Rise of Skywalker and Frozen 2? Just me?

I haven't seen Frozen 2, but there are tropes that are common to all movies. That's what was "exciting" about the 7th film. Rey was just some ordinary orphan with no special background who happened to be the strongest Jedi in existence. That subverted the "you have to be special" trope. Of course, the rags to riches trope is also a thing as well. So in subverting one trope, they encountered another.

That is actually one reason the most recent trilogy sucks.

[Anonymous]

I actually love the prequels by Lucas. They were entertaining and I loved Natalie Portman and Hayden. They had amazing chemistry. It reminded me of Rey and Kylo.