The Last Skywalker— with Spoilers

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Rey Palpatine does win, though..."

Oh. My. God.

Yes, she's TECHNICALLY Rey Palpatine, but given that she:

1. Kills Palpatine.

2. Becomes a Jedi, not a Sith

She's really only nominally a Palpatine.

Stop being so DAMN obtuse.

Correct, so Rey Palpatine wins. Again, nobody ever said Emperor Palpatine won in these last two pages. She clearly kills her grandpa. However, Rey isn’t a Skywalker and adapts the name because Like and Leia give her the blessing because of what Luke says, your blood doesn’t determine who you are.

But ultimately, Rey is still a Palpatine. You even said it yourself.

Calm down Karen. Don’t know why you’re getting so worked up over a basic statement.

You can't read. Someone said "Palpatine won."

Rey is a Palpatine in name only -- and not even that; she calls herself Rey Skywalker.

To continue to harp on her technical bloodline is frankly just stupid.

That literally is Rey’s entire arc in the movie! JFC

I mean I don’t care about some semantic stupidity of saying that “Palpatine won.” She disavowed her bloodline.

You do care because you’re still stuck on a technicality...

Not really. You're all stuck on the technicality of the fact that she remained his granddaughter, even though she disavowed him completely. The fact that she disavowed him means Palpatine didn't win outside of the most nominal, technical sense of the word. To phrase it that way suggests a misunderstanding of everything that actually happened. The entire point is that you can escape your bloodline. That's why she called herself Rey Skywalker.

LOL you need to let it go already. Rey P won.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Rey Palpatine does win, though..."

Oh. My. God.

Yes, she's TECHNICALLY Rey Palpatine, but given that she:

1. Kills Palpatine.

2. Becomes a Jedi, not a Sith

She's really only nominally a Palpatine.

Stop being so DAMN obtuse.

Correct, so Rey Palpatine wins. Again, nobody ever said Emperor Palpatine won in these last two pages. She clearly kills her grandpa. However, Rey isn’t a Skywalker and adapts the name because Like and Leia give her the blessing because of what Luke says, your blood doesn’t determine who you are.

But ultimately, Rey is still a Palpatine. You even said it yourself.

Calm down Karen. Don’t know why you’re getting so worked up over a basic statement.

You can't read. Someone said "Palpatine won."

Rey is a Palpatine in name only -- and not even that; she calls herself Rey Skywalker.

To continue to harp on her technical bloodline is frankly just stupid.

That literally is Rey’s entire arc in the movie! JFC

I mean I don’t care about some semantic stupidity of saying that “Palpatine won.” She disavowed her bloodline.

You do care because you’re still stuck on a technicality...

Not really. You're all stuck on the technicality of the fact that she remained his granddaughter, even though she disavowed him completely. The fact that she disavowed him means Palpatine didn't win outside of the most nominal, technical sense of the word. To phrase it that way suggests a misunderstanding of everything that actually happened. The entire point is that you can escape your bloodline. That's why she called herself Rey Skywalker.

LOL you need to let it go already. Rey P won.

If you can't understand the nuance of what actually happened, I can't help you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Rey Palpatine does win, though..."

Oh. My. God.

Yes, she's TECHNICALLY Rey Palpatine, but given that she:

1. Kills Palpatine.

2. Becomes a Jedi, not a Sith

She's really only nominally a Palpatine.

Stop being so DAMN obtuse.

Correct, so Rey Palpatine wins. Again, nobody ever said Emperor Palpatine won in these last two pages. She clearly kills her grandpa. However, Rey isn’t a Skywalker and adapts the name because Like and Leia give her the blessing because of what Luke says, your blood doesn’t determine who you are.

But ultimately, Rey is still a Palpatine. You even said it yourself.

Calm down Karen. Don’t know why you’re getting so worked up over a basic statement.

You can't read. Someone said "Palpatine won."

Rey is a Palpatine in name only -- and not even that; she calls herself Rey Skywalker.

To continue to harp on her technical bloodline is frankly just stupid.

That literally is Rey’s entire arc in the movie! JFC

I mean I don’t care about some semantic stupidity of saying that “Palpatine won.” She disavowed her bloodline.

You do care because you’re still stuck on a technicality...

Not really. You're all stuck on the technicality of the fact that she remained his granddaughter, even though she disavowed him completely. The fact that she disavowed him means Palpatine didn't win outside of the most nominal, technical sense of the word. To phrase it that way suggests a misunderstanding of everything that actually happened. The entire point is that you can escape your bloodline. That's why she called herself Rey Skywalker.

LOL you need to let it go already. Rey P won.

If you can't understand the nuance of what actually happened, I can't help you.

I do. You don’t. Not my fault you’re an dumbass.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Rey Palpatine does win, though..."

Oh. My. God.

Yes, she's TECHNICALLY Rey Palpatine, but given that she:

1. Kills Palpatine.

2. Becomes a Jedi, not a Sith

She's really only nominally a Palpatine.

Stop being so DAMN obtuse.

Correct, so Rey Palpatine wins. Again, nobody ever said Emperor Palpatine won in these last two pages. She clearly kills her grandpa. However, Rey isn’t a Skywalker and adapts the name because Like and Leia give her the blessing because of what Luke says, your blood doesn’t determine who you are.

But ultimately, Rey is still a Palpatine. You even said it yourself.

Calm down Karen. Don’t know why you’re getting so worked up over a basic statement.

You can't read. Someone said "Palpatine won."

Rey is a Palpatine in name only -- and not even that; she calls herself Rey Skywalker.

To continue to harp on her technical bloodline is frankly just stupid.

That literally is Rey’s entire arc in the movie! JFC

I mean I don’t care about some semantic stupidity of saying that “Palpatine won.” She disavowed her bloodline.

You do care because you’re still stuck on a technicality...

Not really. You're all stuck on the technicality of the fact that she remained his granddaughter, even though she disavowed him completely. The fact that she disavowed him means Palpatine didn't win outside of the most nominal, technical sense of the word. To phrase it that way suggests a misunderstanding of everything that actually happened. The entire point is that you can escape your bloodline. That's why she called herself Rey Skywalker.

LOL you need to let it go already. Rey P won.

If you can't understand the nuance of what actually happened, I can't help you.

I do. You don’t. Not my fault you’re an dumbass.

Obviously she's still technically a Palpatine. I never said otherwise. But it's stupid to harp on that point when she disavowed her bloodline. That's my only point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Rey Palpatine does win, though..."

Oh. My. God.

Yes, she's TECHNICALLY Rey Palpatine, but given that she:

1. Kills Palpatine.

2. Becomes a Jedi, not a Sith

She's really only nominally a Palpatine.

Stop being so DAMN obtuse.

Correct, so Rey Palpatine wins. Again, nobody ever said Emperor Palpatine won in these last two pages. She clearly kills her grandpa. However, Rey isn’t a Skywalker and adapts the name because Like and Leia give her the blessing because of what Luke says, your blood doesn’t determine who you are.

But ultimately, Rey is still a Palpatine. You even said it yourself.

Calm down Karen. Don’t know why you’re getting so worked up over a basic statement.

You can't read. Someone said "Palpatine won."

Rey is a Palpatine in name only -- and not even that; she calls herself Rey Skywalker.

To continue to harp on her technical bloodline is frankly just stupid.

That literally is Rey’s entire arc in the movie! JFC

I mean I don’t care about some semantic stupidity of saying that “Palpatine won.” She disavowed her bloodline.

You do care because you’re still stuck on a technicality...

Not really. You're all stuck on the technicality of the fact that she remained his granddaughter, even though she disavowed him completely. The fact that she disavowed him means Palpatine didn't win outside of the most nominal, technical sense of the word. To phrase it that way suggests a misunderstanding of everything that actually happened. The entire point is that you can escape your bloodline. That's why she called herself Rey Skywalker.

LOL you need to let it go already. Rey P won.

If you can't understand the nuance of what actually happened, I can't help you.

I do. You don’t. Not my fault you’re an dumbass.

Obviously she's still technically a Palpatine. I never said otherwise. But it's stupid to harp on that point when she disavowed her bloodline. That's my only point.

That’s what me and others here have been trying to tell you all along! ONE person said Palpatine won and that was it. But I don’t agree with that person.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Went to see it tonight. It was OK. I had low expectations and they were satisfied. The plot had a lot of holes and inconsistencies and the dialogue was dreadful, but the whole arc was far superior to the execrable prequels and as an action movie, it hit the right notes. The characters were pretty flat and the one developing arc, the interplay between Kylo Ren and Rey, was only compelling because Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver are really good actors, not due to the script.

Palpatine, meh. Better to resurrect an old villain than introduce a new one in the 9th movie.

They didn't even resurrect him. The first line of the opening scroll says "the dead speak." He never went anywhere.

He was in the prequels as the one who took over the Senate and turned Anakin into Darth Vader. He continued in the original trilogy as Darth Vader's Sith Lord (Vader was the Sith Apprentice). Judging from the Sith rule of 2, Snoke couldn't have been alone; he had to have a master. The most logical one was Palpatine, so it made perfect sense when it turned out that he had been controlling Snoke.

You all seem to want every detail of a movie spoon-fed to you. Movies--especially long epics like Star Wars--aren't going to do that. Palpatine had Snoke in The Last Jedi, so he didn't necessarily have to put himself in the forefront; moreover, he was out on Exogol creating that crazy fleet of Star Destroyers. Once Snoke was killed in The Last Jedi, Palpatine came out and sent out that message.

I meant resurrect in the colloquial sense of just bringing back, not literally rising from the dead. I don’t care enough about any movie to obsess over details and you don’t need to spoon-feed me anything, thanks, because it doesn’t matter. I’m a casual fan who saw it because other people wanted to go and didn’t love it or hate it. That’s it. I saw the other two sequels once and promptly forgot 98% of them and it hasn’t impacted my life at all.

[Anonymous]

The Rise of Skywalker, aptly named movie in which all the last surviving Skywalkers are killed. Makes so much sense, no? Who wants to watch the Extinction of Skywalker?!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The Rise of Skywalker, aptly named movie in which all the last surviving Skywalkers are killed. Makes so much sense, no? Who wants to watch the Extinction of Skywalker?!

I think the idea is that it's about the Rise of Rey Skywalker, since she adopts that as her last name.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Rise of Skywalker, aptly named movie in which all the last surviving Skywalkers are killed. Makes so much sense, no? Who wants to watch the Extinction of Skywalker?!

I think the idea is that it's about the Rise of Rey Skywalker, since she adopts that as her last name.

It really is the worst identity politics rubbish Hollywood ever came up with.

[Anonymous]

This thread is sad. I came on looking for intelligent conversation about the end of a sage I’ve followed since kindergarten but so many people are making such dumb comments that it’s not worth it.
I thought it was pretty good—I had some quibbles with the execution and never loved Adam Driver as Han’s son.....but the number of commentators who don’t seem to get the “rise of skywalker” theme is discouraging. (Hey folks, remember that skywalker itself was a made-up aspirational name, as Anakin had no blood line.)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is sad. I came on looking for intelligent conversation about the end of a sage I’ve followed since kindergarten but so many people are making such dumb comments that it’s not worth it.
I thought it was pretty good—I had some quibbles with the execution and never loved Adam Driver as Han’s son.....but the number of commentators who don’t seem to get the “rise of skywalker” theme is discouraging. (Hey folks, remember that skywalker itself was a made-up aspirational name, as Anakin had no blood line.)

But — but — the movies don’t exist!!

WAA WAAHHHH!!!!

[Anonymous]

This movie is nothing but action after action without any point. Great for Abrams in Mission Impossible, not great for SW.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This movie is nothing but action after action without any point. Great for Abrams in Mission Impossible, not great for SW.

You just missed the point. That’s a shame.