Cruise Ship Lawsuit & Today Show

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe there's a thread just on the parents appearance on the today show. You think the other thread would be sufficient.

It’s about the lawsuit. I can’t believe someone commented on a thread without reading it.

I read some of it. What I have read is not worth another thread. And there are many many posts on the lawsuit in the first thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe there's a thread just on the parents appearance on the today show. You think the other thread would be sufficient.

It’s about the lawsuit. I can’t believe someone commented on a thread without reading it.

I read some of it. What I have read is not worth another thread. And there are many many posts on the lawsuit in the first thread.

There was no lawsuit at the time of the first thread. Just speculation. The parents have now confirmed it, hence the new thread. If you don’t want to discuss it - why are you here? There’s clearly interest on this site.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe there's a thread just on the parents appearance on the today show. You think the other thread would be sufficient.

It’s about the lawsuit. I can’t believe someone commented on a thread without reading it.

I read some of it. What I have read is not worth another thread. And there are many many posts on the lawsuit in the first thread.

There was no lawsuit at the time of the first thread. Just speculation. The parents have now confirmed it, hence the new thread. If you don’t want to discuss it - why are you here? There’s clearly interest on this site.

Exactly. The parents have confirmed on TV that they 100% blame Royal and 0% blame the guy who leaned her on an open window and let go. It’s news.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe there's a thread just on the parents appearance on the today show. You think the other thread would be sufficient.

It’s about the lawsuit. I can’t believe someone commented on a thread without reading it.

I read some of it. What I have read is not worth another thread. And there are many many posts on the lawsuit in the first thread.

There was no lawsuit at the time of the first thread. Just speculation. The parents have now confirmed it, hence the new thread. If you don’t want to discuss it - why are you here? There’s clearly interest on this site.

Exactly. The parents have confirmed on TV that they 100% blame Royal and 0% blame the guy who leaned her on an open window and let go. It’s news.

He LIFTED HER UP to a window opening when there was no way she’d get up there by herself WHILE there was a sealed window all the way to the floor all along the deck where the child could look out of AND he leaned her out of it. AND then let go. Killing the child and ruining the vacation of thousands of people.

And somehow they don’t think it’s their own fault at all.

AND some idiots on this thread agree with them and think that RC owes them money.

[Anonymous]

I'm sure the attorney is banking on RC not having the appetite to question or depose the family. Can't even imagine how the deposition of the Grandfather would go-- I would hate to be the lawyer having to ask the Grandfather exactly what he was doing when he let go of the girl.

I'm not sure the family has really thought through the lawsuit strategy. Obviously they are hoping for a quick settlement but if RC pushes back at all, the family is going to have to relive this nightmare again and again and again during the litigation process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm sure the attorney is banking on RC not having the appetite to question or depose the family. Can't even imagine how the deposition of the Grandfather would go-- I would hate to be the lawyer having to ask the Grandfather exactly what he was doing when he let go of the girl.

I'm not sure the family has really thought through the lawsuit strategy. Obviously they are hoping for a quick settlement but if RC pushes back at all, the family is going to have to relive this nightmare again and again and again during the litigation process.

I'm sure they'll be fine. Lawyers represent mass murderers all the time and the grandfather on the stand would be an easy mark - seeing as he is culpable for the girl's death.

[Anonymous]

I wonder if this whole thing is to try to fend off a lawsuit for criminal negligence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if this whole thing is to try to fend off a lawsuit for criminal negligence.

Ahhh, another cynic like me. I have been thinking the same thing since I've heard about the family's lawsuit. What a tragedy.

[Anonymous]

Has the video been released yet?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe one single person on here is defending this family's lawsuit. Grief does not give one carte blanche to go on a legal and monetary stampede in order to quell one's grieving. It is a sad reflection of today's generation of entitlement that half of you think that even though this was 100% the fault of the grandfather, that a company should in any way shape or form have to compensate them just because they caused, and now have to deal with, the death of their own child. Unbelievable.

I completely agree with this above. No company or entity should be held accountable because of an individuals own negligence. Regardless of the outcome of the negligence.

Then you are hopelessly naive and ignorant regarding actual tort law. RC and its passengers aren't held to an equal standing here under the law. RC has a higher duty to ensure the safety of its passengers. An unmarked open window at waist height for adults that leads to a 150 foot drop is an issue. Doesn't mean the grandfather might not bear responsibility under the law, but this outrage over a lawsuit is a bit much. This is the system we have outside of regulations to enforce safe corporate practices.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Every Sunday for 12 years 3000 people have gotten on that ship and yet not fallen out a window yet

Exactly. This is a “but for” situation. This would never have happened but for the grandpa. And deep down the family knows it.

You have evidence that there was an open window in a location accessible to guests 150 above ground level on the ship prior to this incident?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Who knew DCUM would be so protective of Royal Caribbean?

NP. People suing over their own stupidity makes the world less fun and more expensive for reasonable people.

x1000

(this is why I prefer vacationing in Europe — fewer guardrails, less bubble wrap, no signage warning me not to 'stick a lit firework in my mouth' or 'drive this rental car while blindfolded')

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every Sunday for 12 years 3000 people have gotten on that ship and yet not fallen out a window yet

Exactly. This is a “but for” situation. This would never have happened but for the grandpa. And deep down the family knows it.

You have evidence that there was an open window in a location accessible to guests 150 above ground level on the ship prior to this incident?

What are you talking about?

Yes, there are tons of videos on YouTube of people vacationing and walking around that exact deck of that exact ship and walking past those exact windows that were open. Not to mention all the photos that no doubt exist.

The windows are tinted a bright blue. And the windows that open have handles attached to them. The openings have tracks along the bottom where the glass panel slides across to open and close it, just like windows in your home or anywhere else.

Use your brain before your keyboard. The only people defending this family are the ones who have no idea what they're talking about.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Every Sunday for 12 years 3000 people have gotten on that ship and yet not fallen out a window yet

Exactly. This is a “but for” situation. This would never have happened but for the grandpa. And deep down the family knows it.

You have evidence that there was an open window in a location accessible to guests 150 above ground level on the ship prior to this incident?

What are you talking about?

Yes, there are tons of videos on YouTube of people vacationing and walking around that exact deck of that exact ship and walking past those exact windows that were open. Not to mention all the photos that no doubt exist.

The windows are tinted a bright blue. And the windows that open have handles attached to them. The openings have tracks along the bottom where the glass panel slides across to open and close it, just like windows in your home or anywhere else.

Use your brain before your keyboard. The only people defending this family are the ones who have no idea what they're talking about.

^ forgot to say that there's also a big fat steel bar all across the wall that you need to lean across in order to put anything out the window.

[Anonymous]

So he picked up the child and sat her on the bottom part of the open window but claimed that he thought there was another window in front of her? Um, from that video it is obvious that there is not another set of windows on the outside and the breeze would've clued you into that.