Churchill science teacher escorted off campus today?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:18:01 here. I'll clarify: DC heard from several students the student had a concussion and was crying because they were afraid they were going to fail the test. DC said that was when the teacher kissed her forehead.

My DC loves their teachers this year for their extreme kindness and excellent teaching. DC is very contemplative about this situation since they believe the forehead kiss was paternalistic affection by a little, old man towards a kid who was losing it. DC is upset this teacher "lost" their job over a broken game of telephone.

I hope we find the truth since it seems there are two very different versions of this story going around.

Might be why there’s no letter. The school did what they promised to do, but upon investigation, the teacher is not a pervert. Hard to walk back.

Perhaps the girl and the girl's parents have a problem with any kiss that was planted on the child. A pretty creepy way of trying to calm and high school student. Not sanctioned by teacher training and the employee code of conduct even if it was on her forehead. I would want my child to never again be in contact with this teacher.

[Anonymous]

Of course, of course. And just as we saw with a recent candidate for president, many people aren't comfortable with paternalistic instinct or whatever. There are rules against touching for a very good reason. It's a mess any way you look at it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:18:01 here. I'll clarify: DC heard from several students the student had a concussion and was crying because they were afraid they were going to fail the test. DC said that was when the teacher kissed her forehead.

My DC loves their teachers this year for their extreme kindness and excellent teaching. DC is very contemplative about this situation since they believe the forehead kiss was paternalistic affection by a little, old man towards a kid who was losing it. DC is upset this teacher "lost" their job over a broken game of telephone.

I hope we find the truth since it seems there are two very different versions of this story going around.

Might be why there’s no letter. The school did what they promised to do, but upon investigation, the teacher is not a pervert. Hard to walk back.

Perhaps the girl and the girl's parents have a problem with any kiss that was planted on the child. A pretty creepy way of trying to calm and high school student. Not sanctioned by teacher training and the employee code of conduct even if it was on her forehead. I would want my child to never again be in contact with this teacher.

I would be fine with that. Maybe there won’t be a letter until Central Office figures out what they can do with him without triggering a lawsuit.

[Anonymous]

I don't think making out with a kid in a storage closet is remotely the same thing as kissing a kid on the head when they're crying, but both are wrong. In another state, I worked with someone who was fired for doing just that on the same day they did it. It shows such poor boundaries and understanding of the law. When I was growing up in the 80s, I had teachers who did that kind of thing all the time, and it made me uncomfortable even if it wasn't sexual in intent. These lines need to be drawn clearly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:18:01 here. I'll clarify: DC heard from several students the student had a concussion and was crying because they were afraid they were going to fail the test. DC said that was when the teacher kissed her forehead.

My DC loves their teachers this year for their extreme kindness and excellent teaching. DC is very contemplative about this situation since they believe the forehead kiss was paternalistic affection by a little, old man towards a kid who was losing it. DC is upset this teacher "lost" their job over a broken game of telephone.

I hope we find the truth since it seems there are two very different versions of this story going around.

This is what I also heard. It was during class and student was crying because the bio teacher said she had to take a test even though she had a concussion. Since others were taking a test, they moved to the small storage room in between the science labs and he kissed her on the forehead when she was crying.

Sounds very creepy to me but different from the ‘making out’ story that was initially out there.

[Anonymous]

Why is Churchill making a child with a concussion take a test? There's ton of medical research that shows how a concussion impacts a child's cognitive ability. Shouldn't the school allow a child take an incomplete and make up the assessment when she has recovered?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:18:01 here. I'll clarify: DC heard from several students the student had a concussion and was crying because they were afraid they were going to fail the test. DC said that was when the teacher kissed her forehead.

My DC loves their teachers this year for their extreme kindness and excellent teaching. DC is very contemplative about this situation since they believe the forehead kiss was paternalistic affection by a little, old man towards a kid who was losing it. DC is upset this teacher "lost" their job over a broken game of telephone.

I hope we find the truth since it seems there are two very different versions of this story going around.

This is what I also heard. It was during class and student was crying because the bio teacher said she had to take a test even though she had a concussion. Since others were taking a test, they moved to the small storage room in between the science labs and he kissed her on the forehead when she was crying.

Sounds very creepy to me but different from the ‘making out’ story that was initially out there.

If your child was a witness, it would be helpful to make a report to Child Welfare Services at 240-777-4417. Child Welfare Services should be heading the investigation as to what happened with this teacher.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is Churchill making a child with a concussion take a test? There's ton of medical research that shows how a concussion impacts a child's cognitive ability. Shouldn't the school allow a child take an incomplete and make up the assessment when she has recovered?

Of course -but this is MCPS .

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is Churchill making a child with a concussion take a test? There's ton of medical research that shows how a concussion impacts a child's cognitive ability. Shouldn't the school allow a child take an incomplete and make up the assessment when she has recovered?

They shouldn't even be in school with a concussion. I volunteer as a softball rec coach and I had to take an extensive course on how to identify concussions and what the process is to return to school and then eventually play. It's weeks and weeks and weeks. No screens, no reading, no tests... brain needs to heal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Churchill making a child with a concussion take a test? There's ton of medical research that shows how a concussion impacts a child's cognitive ability. Shouldn't the school allow a child take an incomplete and make up the assessment when she has recovered?

They shouldn't even be in school with a concussion. I volunteer as a softball rec coach and I had to take an extensive course on how to identify concussions and what the process is to return to school and then eventually play. It's weeks and weeks and weeks. No screens, no reading, no tests... brain needs to heal.

This could be the time when the kid is ready to return to school. Eventually there is a first test after a concussion whether it’s weeks later or right away.

[Anonymous]

A child crying before a test does not seem to be a child ready to take a test. Often, Churchill makes these types of decisions based on what is easier for them (ie. less paperwork) versus the needs of a child. They don't care if the child’s recovery is being set back or if the child has not been taught the material due to absences. School staff including administrators just want the grades to get posted so they can close out the quarter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Churchill making a child with a concussion take a test? There's ton of medical research that shows how a concussion impacts a child's cognitive ability. Shouldn't the school allow a child take an incomplete and make up the assessment when she has recovered?

They shouldn't even be in school with a concussion. I volunteer as a softball rec coach and I had to take an extensive course on how to identify concussions and what the process is to return to school and then eventually play. It's weeks and weeks and weeks. No screens, no reading, no tests... brain needs to heal.

Umm, no. Let’s stop blaming the victim, shall we? Your training is out of date. Staying home is the now out of date recommendation for concussion treatment. The best, most current data and treatment recommendation is to keep up with normal activities as long as that doesn't produce symptoms, then backing off if symptoms appear. So, a student should be in school. If a headache or other symptoms appear, they should be offered a flash pass to the Nurse to rest until they feel well enough to return. If post-concussive symptoms mean student is still struggling cognitively with memory and processing speed, then they should be excused from all non-essential school work and tests and quizzes either delayed or given with accommodations.

A student who complains about a concussion shouldn’t be kissed on the head, they should be excused from the test until an appropriate plan is sorted out.

This is the appropriate practice, whether or not there is a formal 504 plan (to which a concussed student would certainly be entitled), as MCPS also has an obligation to accomodate under the ADA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

If your child was a witness, it would be helpful to make a report to Child Welfare Services at 240-777-4417. Child Welfare Services should be heading the investigation as to what happened with this teacher.

Doesn't anyone think it's odd that the school has not asked for witnesses to come forward or provided the community the number for Child Welfare Services?

Child Welfare Services waits for witnesses to come forward. For these types of cases, they will not go to witnesses even though everyone can suspect that the 30+ kids in the class are witnesses. If no witnesses come forward to Child Welfare Services than the teacher is cleared and MCPS returns him to the classroom. If witnesses come forward to MCPS, those statements may not see the light of day and Child Welfare Services may not be able to act on the MCPS statements gathered. That's why MCPS stays silent and prays no witnesses goes directly to Child Welfare Services.

There's also predatory grooming behavior that violates the MCPS Employee Code of Conduct but isn't considered a crime or child abuse. These traits are dangerous warning signs for employees who should not have access to children. Just because a person is cleared, doesn't mean MCPS should sit back and wait for a crime to occur when an employee is violating their training and the Employee Code of Conduct.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Churchill making a child with a concussion take a test? There's ton of medical research that shows how a concussion impacts a child's cognitive ability. Shouldn't the school allow a child take an incomplete and make up the assessment when she has recovered?

They shouldn't even be in school with a concussion. I volunteer as a softball rec coach and I had to take an extensive course on how to identify concussions and what the process is to return to school and then eventually play. It's weeks and weeks and weeks. No screens, no reading, no tests... brain needs to heal.

Umm, no. Let’s stop blaming the victim, shall we? Your training is out of date. Staying home is the now out of date recommendation for concussion treatment. The best, most current data and treatment recommendation is to keep up with normal activities as long as that doesn't produce symptoms, then backing off if symptoms appear. So, a student should be in school. If a headache or other symptoms appear, they should be offered a flash pass to the Nurse to rest until they feel well enough to return. If post-concussive symptoms mean student is still struggling cognitively with memory and processing speed, then they should be excused from all non-essential school work and tests and quizzes either delayed or given with accommodations.

A student who complains about a concussion shouldn’t be kissed on the head, they should be excused from the test until an appropriate plan is sorted out.

This is the appropriate practice, whether or not there is a formal 504 plan (to which a concussed student would certainly be entitled), as MCPS also has an obligation to accomodate under the ADA.

MCPS doesn’t understand concussed teachers either. They have to stay out until 100%. No accommodations for a reduced work schedule (teach 3 classes and then a sub for 2) or even adjusted lighting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is Churchill making a child with a concussion take a test? There's ton of medical research that shows how a concussion impacts a child's cognitive ability. Shouldn't the school allow a child take an incomplete and make up the assessment when she has recovered?

They shouldn't even be in school with a concussion. I volunteer as a softball rec coach and I had to take an extensive course on how to identify concussions and what the process is to return to school and then eventually play. It's weeks and weeks and weeks. No screens, no reading, no tests... brain needs to heal.

Umm, no. Let’s stop blaming the victim, shall we? Your training is out of date. Staying home is the now out of date recommendation for concussion treatment. The best, most current data and treatment recommendation is to keep up with normal activities as long as that doesn't produce symptoms, then backing off if symptoms appear. So, a student should be in school. If a headache or other symptoms appear, they should be offered a flash pass to the Nurse to rest until they feel well enough to return. If post-concussive symptoms mean student is still struggling cognitively with memory and processing speed, then they should be excused from all non-essential school work and tests and quizzes either delayed or given with accommodations.

A student who complains about a concussion shouldn’t be kissed on the head, they should be excused from the test until an appropriate plan is sorted out.

This is the appropriate practice, whether or not there is a formal 504 plan (to which a concussed student would certainly be entitled), as MCPS also has an obligation to accomodate under the ADA.

MCPS doesn’t understand concussed teachers either. They have to stay out until 100%. No accommodations for a reduced work schedule (teach 3 classes and then a sub for 2) or even adjusted lighting

Umm. Please find a lawyer. Most unions provide one free of charge as part of the union's contract. An employer's failure to make reasonable accommodations is actionable under the ADA.