Churchill science teacher escorted off campus today?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:18:01 here. I'll clarify: DC heard from several students the student had a concussion and was crying because they were afraid they were going to fail the test. DC said that was when the teacher kissed her forehead.

My DC loves their teachers this year for their extreme kindness and excellent teaching. DC is very contemplative about this situation since they believe the forehead kiss was paternalistic affection by a little, old man towards a kid who was losing it. DC is upset this teacher "lost" their job over a broken game of telephone.

I hope we find the truth since it seems there are two very different versions of this story going around.

Okay, I'll admit that a paternalistic forehead kiss in a closet is not appropriate in this day and age. However, one of my fondest memories from high school was a forehead kiss from a theatre director after a closing night performance. It was in front of everybody, not in a closet! I interpreted the forehead kiss as a huge sign of approval and it was never remotely anything more. I think the theatre director (a teacher) would know to observe stricter boundaries today.

[Anonymous]

Earlier someone indicated that the teacher had a prior discipline thing. That could be playing into this as well.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:18:01 here. I'll clarify: DC heard from several students the student had a concussion and was crying because they were afraid they were going to fail the test. DC said that was when the teacher kissed her forehead.

My DC loves their teachers this year for their extreme kindness and excellent teaching. DC is very contemplative about this situation since they believe the forehead kiss was paternalistic affection by a little, old man towards a kid who was losing it. DC is upset this teacher "lost" their job over a broken game of telephone.

I hope we find the truth since it seems there are two very different versions of this story going around.

Okay, I'll admit that a paternalistic forehead kiss in a closet is not appropriate in this day and age. However, one of my fondest memories from high school was a forehead kiss from a theatre director after a closing night performance. It was in front of everybody, not in a closet! I interpreted the forehead kiss as a huge sign of approval and it was never remotely anything more. I think the theatre director (a teacher) would know to observe stricter boundaries today.

But that was a teacher you were close to (and even so, would probably not be appropriate today). This is a random teacher who caused her to cry by making her take a test she didn't want to take. And followed up with a hug (or so I heard) and a kiss on the forehead.

[Anonymous]

Frankly, I am shocked to hear that a paternalistic kiss on the forehead will result in a teacher being punished? This is a crazy country where the real abusers (puss$ygrabbers) can become POTUS, guns are allowed, pedophiles are coaches and school bus drivers - but someone who has hugged a child is punished?

As an immigrant, I am shocked to see how perverted everything is in this country. Have people lost their common-sense?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:18:01 here. I'll clarify: DC heard from several students the student had a concussion and was crying because they were afraid they were going to fail the test. DC said that was when the teacher kissed her forehead.

My DC loves their teachers this year for their extreme kindness and excellent teaching. DC is very contemplative about this situation since they believe the forehead kiss was paternalistic affection by a little, old man towards a kid who was losing it. DC is upset this teacher "lost" their job over a broken game of telephone.

I hope we find the truth since it seems there are two very different versions of this story going around.

Okay, I'll admit that a paternalistic forehead kiss in a closet is not appropriate in this day and age. However, one of my fondest memories from high school was a forehead kiss from a theatre director after a closing night performance. It was in front of everybody, not in a closet! I interpreted the forehead kiss as a huge sign of approval and it was never remotely anything more. I think the theatre director (a teacher) would know to observe stricter boundaries today.

But that was a teacher you were close to (and even so, would probably not be appropriate today). This is a random teacher who caused her to cry by making her take a test she didn't want to take. And followed up with a hug (or so I heard) and a kiss on the forehead.

Really? So anyone who doesn’t want to take a test shouldn’t have to as long as they cry? And we wonder why our young adults are having such a difficult time coping with life these days. If she couldn’t take a test due to a medical reason then she would have had a note from the doctor stating that. Otherwise any student could choose to not take tests whenever they want, citing a medical issue that may or may not exist.

I’m not saying any kind of kiss from a teacher is appropriate—but your choice of words in explaining what led up to the alleged situation is concerning.

[Anonymous]

A few years back, my child was in a severe car accident that caused a concussion. Fully documented by doctors even with the recommendations of Children's Hospital Concussion Clinic for supports. Supports were added to a formal school document as a traumatic brain injury. School staff forced my child to take tests even when she had symptoms and difficulty with memory. Simple supports such as chucking out an assessment into smaller sections were not followed by school staff.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A few years back, my child was in a severe car accident that caused a concussion. Fully documented by doctors even with the recommendations of Children's Hospital Concussion Clinic for supports. Supports were added to a formal school document as a traumatic brain injury. School staff forced my child to take tests even when she had symptoms and difficulty with memory. Simple supports such as chucking out an assessment into smaller sections were not followed by school staff.

Two of my DC dealt with this as well. So illegal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I am shocked to hear that a paternalistic kiss on the forehead will result in a teacher being punished? This is a crazy country where the real abusers (puss$ygrabbers) can become POTUS, guns are allowed, pedophiles are coaches and school bus drivers - but someone who has hugged a child is punished?

As an immigrant, I am shocked to see how perverted everything is in this country. Have people lost their common-sense?

It is called testing the waters. A child predator does something to gauge a reaction as to whether or not the child will talk. A kiss on the forehead is not allowed, he has been trained on these boundaries, the consequence can be termination, yet he still did it. Why?

MCPS needs consistency in enforcement so teachers fully comply with expectations developed for child safety.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:18:01 here. I'll clarify: DC heard from several students the student had a concussion and was crying because they were afraid they were going to fail the test. DC said that was when the teacher kissed her forehead.

My DC loves their teachers this year for their extreme kindness and excellent teaching. DC is very contemplative about this situation since they believe the forehead kiss was paternalistic affection by a little, old man towards a kid who was losing it. DC is upset this teacher "lost" their job over a broken game of telephone.

I hope we find the truth since it seems there are two very different versions of this story going around.

Okay, I'll admit that a paternalistic forehead kiss in a closet is not appropriate in this day and age. However, one of my fondest memories from high school was a forehead kiss from a theatre director after a closing night performance. It was in front of everybody, not in a closet! I interpreted the forehead kiss as a huge sign of approval and it was never remotely anything more. I think the theatre director (a teacher) would know to observe stricter boundaries today.

But that was a teacher you were close to (and even so, would probably not be appropriate today). This is a random teacher who caused her to cry by making her take a test she didn't want to take. And followed up with a hug (or so I heard) and a kiss on the forehead.

Really? So anyone who doesn’t want to take a test shouldn’t have to as long as they cry? And we wonder why our young adults are having such a difficult time coping with life these days. If she couldn’t take a test due to a medical reason then she would have had a note from the doctor stating that. Otherwise any student could choose to not take tests whenever they want, citing a medical issue that may or may not exist.

I’m not saying any kind of kiss from a teacher is appropriate—but your choice of words in explaining what led up to the alleged situation is concerning.

I'm not sure if you've read the post or the thread carefully. This isn't about whether a student has to take a test. It's about whether a beloved teacher offering congratulations with a kiss on the forehead is the same as a non beloved teacher who just made the child cry giving her a kiss on the forehead. Whether she should take the test is another matter (but clearly she should not if she has a concussion).

[Anonymous]

The Washington Post is investigating a follow up to their Damascus article. Donna St. George is the lead reporter if parents at Churchill want to provide information about this or any other situation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I am shocked to hear that a paternalistic kiss on the forehead will result in a teacher being punished? This is a crazy country where the real abusers (puss$ygrabbers) can become POTUS, guns are allowed, pedophiles are coaches and school bus drivers - but someone who has hugged a child is punished?

As an immigrant, I am shocked to see how perverted everything is in this country. Have people lost their common-sense?

It is called testing the waters. A child predator does something to gauge a reaction as to whether or not the child will talk. A kiss on the forehead is not allowed, he has been trained on these boundaries, the consequence can be termination, yet he still did it. Why?

MCPS needs consistency in enforcement so teachers fully comply with expectations developed for child safety.

Perfectly stated and exactly right. When someone willfully and intentionally breaks the rules, it is often a sign of grooming / sexual abuse. But let's just say he was not grooming her....he is (if he did it) still a person who thinks the rules don't apply to him and that makes him far too dangerous to have around children. There are dozens of other ways he could have and should have comforted her (if that's actually what it was) and none of those ways involve kissing.

If there were witnesses / if it is shown to have happened he needs to go ASAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Frankly, I am shocked to hear that a paternalistic kiss on the forehead will result in a teacher being punished? This is a crazy country where the real abusers (puss$ygrabbers) can become POTUS, guns are allowed, pedophiles are coaches and school bus drivers - but someone who has hugged a child is punished?

As an immigrant, I am shocked to see how perverted everything is in this country. Have people lost their common-sense?

Please take a course on the sexual abuse of children indicators, learn about sexual abuse, read about the dozens of offenders in MCPS. You need to become educated. Your children are at risk.

[Anonymous]

All parents should review the information on the MCPS Child Abuse and Neglect website including watching the Parent Volunteer Training Module.

www.montgomeryschoolsmd.org/childabuseandneglect/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A few years back, my child was in a severe car accident that caused a concussion. Fully documented by doctors even with the recommendations of Children's Hospital Concussion Clinic for supports. Supports were added to a formal school document as a traumatic brain injury. School staff forced my child to take tests even when she had symptoms and difficulty with memory. Simple supports such as chucking out an assessment into smaller sections were not followed by school staff.

Two of my DC dealt with this as well. So illegal.

Your child should have been counseled by you that this could happen and told how to handle that situation. Mine was, told that teacher she wanted to call her parents, and refused to cooperate until she spoke with us That teacher was suspended by the time I was finished with her sorry ass. She was a bully. Teach your children to stand up for themselves and hold their ground.

[Anonymous]

The teacher was back at school yesterday.