Is the UVA and Charlottesville brand damaged forever?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:For me, the lacrosse murder and then the Rolling Stone article were strike one and two with strike 3 being the neo nazi march. I don't think that makes me oversensitive.

To the PP who suggests the AA female student attend GMU instead, academically GMU might not be the right fit.

You do realize the Rolling Stone article was false? That Rolling Stone had to pay damages to UVA for that piece? UVA, as an institution, had nothing to do with the alt.right march. UVA didn't even know they were going to march there the night before the permit-allowed protest in Charlottesville.




As to the "lacrosse murder" I think you are confusing it with the Duke Lacrosse case. Please read here as to the 9 year old story of what actually happened, which could happen on any campus in the world. Huguely did not intend to kill his girlfriend. Alcohol was involved. Lacrosse was not. https://www.today.com/news/george-huguely-s-mother-speaks-out-first-time-death-yeardley-t107308

I guess it's easy for PP to mix up which southern fratboy is murdering or raping which classmate. Might have been thinking of UVA sophomore fratboy Steven Dalton Baril, who was arrested for raping a classmate he meet at a campus bar.

They drank shots at the off-campus bar. Alcohol was a factor. She let him into her off-campus apartment. She agreed to a plea deal. He entered an Alford plea. He's not doing time and he is no longer enrolled as a student at UVA. Again, alcohol is the problem and bad choices, not UVA.

Yeah. A UVA fratboy sophomore pled to rape charges brought on behalf of a UVA classmate who he met in a campus bar one block off campus. But let's blame alcohol. And let's applaud UVA for letting him quit school after he was charged with allegedly raping a classmate. By the way, this particular UVA fratboy comes from a long line of good Southern stock--grandpa was a Republican governor and daddy ran for state AG.

[Anonymous]

its devolved from a fraternity culture to a rape culture.

[Anonymous]

DCUM UVA threads always bring the lunatics out of the asylum.

[Anonymous]

Good school for smart but lazy kids. That's why the alumni list is really unimpressive. Lots of easy majors and time for drinking and dumb and or criminal activity.

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Anonymous wrote:Good school for smart but lazy kids. That's why the alumni list is really unimpressive. Lots of easy majors and time for drinking and dumb and or criminal activity.

Is this alumni list unimpressive?: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_University_of_Virginia_people

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:For me, the lacrosse murder and then the Rolling Stone article were strike one and two with strike 3 being the neo nazi march. I don't think that makes me oversensitive.

To the PP who suggests the AA female student attend GMU instead, academically GMU might not be the right fit.

You do realize the Rolling Stone article was false? That Rolling Stone had to pay damages to UVA for that piece? UVA, as an institution, had nothing to do with the alt.right march. UVA didn't even know they were going to march there the night before the permit-allowed protest in Charlottesville.

As to the "lacrosse murder" I think you are confusing it with the Duke Lacrosse case. Please read here as to the 9 year old story of what actually happened, which could happen on any campus in the world. Huguely did not intend to kill his girlfriend. Alcohol was involved. Lacrosse was not. https://www.today.com/news/george-huguely-s-mother-speaks-out-first-time-death-yeardley-t107308

The lacrosse murder was UVA. ??

There was Hannah Graham too.

Yes. Love case was UVA.

UVA’s challenge is that every August will remind prospective applicants of their doubts about attending a southern school. Non-southerners are reminded of things like the Klu klux klan and civil rights marches and a very repulsive part of our country’s history. Last summer’s event only serves to remind that that racism continues to thrive in the south. Not super attractive

Another northerner thinks racism is a problem in the south alone. This is the kind of attitude less racists thrive in cities all over our country. Open your eyes. The people prosecuted after Charlottesville were from all over the country. They were attracted to Charlottesville because those two alumni called them in with the removal of the confederate statues as their excuse.

Sure, there is racism everywhere. But in Charlottesville there were STATUES celebrating the people who fought a war to keep slavery. They take racism to another level. They were PROUD of it. Celebrated it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good school for smart but lazy kids. That's why the alumni list is really unimpressive. Lots of easy majors and time for drinking and dumb and or criminal activity.

You clearly don't know anything about college admissions or have spent any time on the UVA campus.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For me, the lacrosse murder and then the Rolling Stone article were strike one and two with strike 3 being the neo nazi march. I don't think that makes me oversensitive.

To the PP who suggests the AA female student attend GMU instead, academically GMU might not be the right fit.

You do realize the Rolling Stone article was false? That Rolling Stone had to pay damages to UVA for that piece? UVA, as an institution, had nothing to do with the alt.right march. UVA didn't even know they were going to march there the night before the permit-allowed protest in Charlottesville.

As to the "lacrosse murder" I think you are confusing it with the Duke Lacrosse case. Please read here as to the 9 year old story of what actually happened, which could happen on any campus in the world. Huguely did not intend to kill his girlfriend. Alcohol was involved. Lacrosse was not. https://www.today.com/news/george-huguely-s-mother-speaks-out-first-time-death-yeardley-t107308

The lacrosse murder was UVA. ??

There was Hannah Graham too.

Yes. Love case was UVA.

UVA’s challenge is that every August will remind prospective applicants of their doubts about attending a southern school. Non-southerners are reminded of things like the Klu klux klan and civil rights marches and a very repulsive part of our country’s history. Last summer’s event only serves to remind that that racism continues to thrive in the south. Not super attractive

Another northerner thinks racism is a problem in the south alone. This is the kind of attitude less racists thrive in cities all over our country. Open your eyes. The people prosecuted after Charlottesville were from all over the country. They were attracted to Charlottesville because those two alumni called them in with the removal of the confederate statues as their excuse.

+1. NO active UVA students were involved in the 2017 incident. The protest was started by out-of-towners; Charlottesville gave them the permit. The incident had no relationship to UVA. There are confederate statues all over the country. Go to Gettysburg. Other areas of PA. Maryland. D.C.

[Anonymous]

UVA is a safety for prep school kids which isn't fair to VA taxpayers. There are plenty of smart instate kids who can go to UVA and would not participate in the Southern frat wannabe culture/ The out of state prep school types both Southern and Northern don't set a good tone for the school.

[Anonymous]

The same could be sad for UMD with Jersey kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The same could be sad for UMD with Jersey kids.

+1.

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Again, UVA had nothing to do with Hannah Graham. She was walking in the wee hours of the morning on the mall in Charlottesville and was last seen with a man not affiliated in any way with UVA. She made some tragic decisions that night.

How can you justify this comment? She was a UVA student, and the school and town failed to keep her safe! Do not blame the victim. At any school in the nation, the school would take part of the blame if one of their students were murdered on or near the campus.

Would NYU take part of the blame for a student murdered in Midtown? Doubt it. Same scenario here. Charlottesville is a city. Heck, people go missing in rural Iowa.

+1 Bingo. Happens in college towns all over America. Most often alcohol involved.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:For me, the lacrosse murder and then the Rolling Stone article were strike one and two with strike 3 being the neo nazi march. I don't think that makes me oversensitive.

To the PP who suggests the AA female student attend GMU instead, academically GMU might not be the right fit.

You do realize the Rolling Stone article was false? That Rolling Stone had to pay damages to UVA for that piece? UVA, as an institution, had nothing to do with the alt.right march. UVA didn't even know they were going to march there the night before the permit-allowed protest in Charlottesville.

As to the "lacrosse murder" I think you are confusing it with the Duke Lacrosse case. Please read here as to the 9 year old story of what actually happened, which could happen on any campus in the world. Huguely did not intend to kill his girlfriend. Alcohol was involved. Lacrosse was not. https://www.today.com/news/george-huguely-s-mother-speaks-out-first-time-death-yeardley-t107308

Wait HOLD THE PHONE.

Did you just say "Huguely did not intend to kill his girlfriend"?????????

He was convicted of 2nd degree murder which is the INTENTIONAL murder of a person. He was convicted of INTENTIONALLY killing Yardley Love.

Are you insane! That's UVA for you.

Not insane. There is a huge difference between what a defendant's position is and what the judge or jury may find. You know that. How many prisoners have told you "they didn't do it". Here's what Huguely's lawyer said (from wiki): "Huguely's attorney, Fran Lawrence, stated: "Ms. Love's death was not intended but an accident with a tragic outcome." When the police first found her they and her roommate concluded it was alcohol poisoning. It was the jury that convicted Huguely of 2nd degree murder. Huguely didn't plead out and admit anything. He also appealed but the appeal was denied.

[Anonymous]

^^ Also, I didn't go to UVA. I don't know why you would conclude that with the snide "That's UVA for you". I just love how posters on the college forum default to "well you obviously didn't learn anything at Harvard Law and can't spell" just because a reader points out a fallacy in someone's argument.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^ Also, I didn't go to UVA. I don't know why you would conclude that with the snide "That's UVA for you". I just love how posters on the college forum default to "well you obviously didn't learn anything at Harvard Law and can't spell" just because a reader points out a fallacy in someone's argument.

PSA: no one cares that you went to HLS so you can quit mentioning it on every single post. You’re still a UVA nutter.