What does it mean to “ban” abortion?

[Anonymous]

Feel bad for their children. They're going to have really crappy lives,

They’ll be alive. That’s going to be the argument used when legislators pass bans.

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On the bright side, abortion restrictions will accelerate the pace at which "minorities" become a majority in the US.

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Anonymous wrote:On the bright side, abortion restrictions will accelerate the pace at which "minorities" become a majority in the US.

I wouldn't be so sure
I'm afraid we're going to see more victims of illegal abortion clinics and DIY methods

[Anonymous]

This will also affect women with wanted pregnancies. You can aee this in countries where abortion is illegal...women left to bleed to death because doctors won't risk being charged.

Women could also be restricted in traveling. That's another thing states have tried to do.

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Anonymous wrote:And tell me DCUM reader -- Ms. Middle Class at 300k -- how many people do you personally hang out with who are at all affected by any of these problems? That they couldn't afford a greyhound ticket or 2 nights at Motel 6? I'm sure you have hordes of such friends, right? Or you're just soooo empathetic that you're not worried about your friends and family but the plight of the rural poor in Mississippi who will be so affected by this?

Really, why do you hate women? I mean, you write like a woman, so I suspect you are one, but why are you so full of rage? I’m an upper middle class woman in the blue Midwest whose husband - and only sex partner - has a vasectomy (after four boys, we’re done!). We have okay insurance and the money to bridge the gap to the deductible. But I’m aware that not all women have that. So yes I feel empathy for the women who have to find child care, take off multiple days at a crap job where they fit really get the days off, have to travel across the state and spend a night or three a hotel for the idiotic “waiting period.” Why are you so busted that you have no empathy?

Did a boyfriend force you to abort? Did your parents force you to give up your baby for adoption? Because you are really angry and taking it out on people who are just having empathy for those with a tougher go. There must be a reason.

Nope. But I knew not to open my legs until I could 100% take care of a baby if a boyfriend walked away the next day. If people don't have any sense of responsibility, I can only feel so bad for their situation.

So you’re just ignorant and mean? Lol. I know there’s more to your story.

And FFS, having an abortion is using their sense of responsibility. You may disagree with it, but they’ve decided to be sexually active and have gotten pregnant and know that they can’t 100% take or a baby. So they’re aborting. Two thirds of all abortions are done eight weeks or earlier. You don’t Ike or trust women, that much is clear.

[Anonymous]

Wait until the rich Republicans realize their 35 year old daughters can’t abort a fetus that tests positive for Down Syndrome. Did you know that the majority are aborted?

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Anonymous wrote:And tell me DCUM reader -- Ms. Middle Class at 300k -- how many people do you personally hang out with who are at all affected by any of these problems? That they couldn't afford a greyhound ticket or 2 nights at Motel 6? I'm sure you have hordes of such friends, right? Or you're just soooo empathetic that you're not worried about your friends and family but the plight of the rural poor in Mississippi who will be so affected by this?

Really, why do you hate women? I mean, you write like a woman, so I suspect you are one, but why are you so full of rage? I’m an upper middle class woman in the blue Midwest whose husband - and only sex partner - has a vasectomy (after four boys, we’re done!). We have okay insurance and the money to bridge the gap to the deductible. But I’m aware that not all women have that. So yes I feel empathy for the women who have to find child care, take off multiple days at a crap job where they fit really get the days off, have to travel across the state and spend a night or three a hotel for the idiotic “waiting period.” Why are you so busted that you have no empathy?

Did a boyfriend force you to abort? Did your parents force you to give up your baby for adoption? Because you are really angry and taking it out on people who are just having empathy for those with a tougher go. There must be a reason.

Nope. But I knew not to open my legs until I could 100% take care of a baby if a boyfriend walked away the next day. If people don't have any sense of responsibility, I can only feel so bad for their situation.

What if a loser of a boyfriend forced himself on you?

If it’s not consensual go to the cops and the hospital and get an abortion that way. Pretty sure that option isn’t going away.

Pretty sure you are naive.

[Anonymous]

One thing hasn't been mentioned: There are two ways for the Court to overturn Roe. It can say there's no Constitutional right to abortion and it's up to the states. Or it can say that a fetus is a person and it's a violation of due process and equal protection for the fetus not to be protected by the laws that generally govern murder.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing hasn't been mentioned: There are two ways for the Court to overturn Roe. It can say there's no Constitutional right to abortion and it's up to the states. Or it can say that a fetus is a person and it's a violation of due process and equal protection for the fetus not to be protected by the laws that generally govern murder.

Of course they'd have to define fetus. Is a zygote a fetus?

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Anonymous wrote:If Roe gets overturned, it goes back to the states. So, we will have the elites able to get abortions and those living in bad states not able to do so.

So further brain drain and more haves v have nots.

Yes, it's inevitable.

PS I don't believe Roe vs Wade would be overturned.

Why would it not? No shortage of people want it gone. It’s a good bet that 4 on the court right now want it gone. I read once that the decision is taught in law school as bad law; there is no such constitutional right.

Having been to law school, Roe is not taught as "bad law." And Roe isn't the operative case, anyway. It's symbolic, but the more recent case is Casey v. Planned Parenthood.

And they don't have to overturn it. They can just keep upholding more and more restrictions until it's functionally banned.

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Anonymous wrote:Roe isn't going anywhere. The sky is not falling.

Conservatives are pragmatists. They don't like abortion, so they tend not to have them. They also recognize the tremendous value in keeping the numbers of liberals in check that abortion provides. Margaret Sanger knew what she was doing when she founded PP.

are you nuts. your base is evangelical mysonginist. they would LOVE to overturn Roe. Or just make it impossible to get an abortion in most states. Sorry, I know several very conservative women who have had abortions, all pro-life. The hypocrisy of conservatives is well known.

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Feel bad for their children. They're going to have really crappy lives,

They’ll be alive. That’s going to be the argument used when legislators pass bans.

Sure, and if the mother dies from going through with a high risk pregnancy, oh well. God has a plan.

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Anonymous wrote:It would be a war on women! Women should have the right to decide their own lives and what goes on with their own bodies. When women have control of reproduction, they are better educated and have better financial freedom. Having a baby in high school is a bullet train to poverty.

You know how one can prevent that? Not letting a guy put it in when you're in high school. I'm not for abstinence only and I do think there are medical/criminal reasons for abortion, but let's be honest if any particular high school girl is soooo worried for her future bc she fears a condom will break and she wouldn't be able to get an abortion -- would it be the end of the world to not start sleeping with people until after high school??

So suddenly it is all on the women?

Don’t expect reason from people who oppose abortion yet voted for someone who openly admitted to Howard Stern he’d wanted Marla Maples to abort Tiffany.

That was back when he was "very pro-choice in every respect":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsOlXidHXRE

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Anonymous wrote:Roe isn't going anywhere. The sky is not falling.

Conservatives are pragmatists. They don't like abortion, so they tend not to have them. They also recognize the tremendous value in keeping the numbers of liberals in check that abortion provides. Margaret Sanger knew what she was doing when she founded PP.

True, they just pay off their mistresses and girlfriends to have them.

Most of my conservative friends top desire is to make abortion illegal. What they do t realize it is the law will eventually affect their daughters who are dealing with difficult pregnancies or miscarriages, but won't affect rich Republicans who will fly their mistresses and daughters to places with abortion.

They also live in areas with lots of poor people who will no longer be able to have abortions if their state goes in that direction. Resulting in lots more welfare it lots more crime. Guess they will get their wish!

How can a (hopeful) ban on abortion affect women who are having miscarriages?

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Anonymous wrote:Roe isn't going anywhere. The sky is not falling.

Conservatives are pragmatists. They don't like abortion, so they tend not to have them. They also recognize the tremendous value in keeping the numbers of liberals in check that abortion provides. Margaret Sanger knew what she was doing when she founded PP.

are you nuts. your base is evangelical mysonginist. they would LOVE to overturn Roe. Or just make it impossible to get an abortion in most states. Sorry, I know several very conservative women who have had abortions, all pro-life. The hypocrisy of conservatives is well known.

Are you unable to fathom that perhaps they consider the abortion to be the gravest mistake of their lives, and they want to prevent other women from suffering as they have?