What does it mean to “ban” abortion?

[Anonymous]

Given Justice Kennedy’s retirement, I hear a lot of talk of “overturning” Roe v Wade or “banning” abortion. But what does this mean, practically speaking? Will girls who receive illegal abortions be arrested and charged with first-degree murder? What about rape victims? Will they be required by law to carry their rapist’s baby to term? Will women be required to report miscarriages to the police? Will the police be required to investigate all reports of miscarriages?

I was born after Roe v Wade so I’m trying to get a sense of what it will mean to return to a pre-Roe v Wade world.

[Anonymous]

Lots of "vacation" trips to Canada.

[Anonymous]

Overturning Roe v Wade does not mean what conservatives think it means. If the court overturns Roe, each state will basically be free to set its own abortion laws. Some may liberalize them. Others will crack down. It will end up in a courts cases breaking out all over the country and will be a huge mess.

[Anonymous]

Roe isn't going anywhere. The sky is not falling.

Conservatives are pragmatists. They don't like abortion, so they tend not to have them. They also recognize the tremendous value in keeping the numbers of liberals in check that abortion provides. Margaret Sanger knew what she was doing when she founded PP.

[Anonymous]

Anti-abortion laws typically focus on the abortion providers rather than the women obtaining them, so most likely the laws would criminalize providing abortions. Any such laws would probably at least initially provide an exception for rape/incest because that is still politically favored, but would require women seeking an abortion for such reasons to report the assault to police and go through an adjudication of whether a rape actually occurred before being authorized to obtain an abortion. But the practical effect would be that such adjudication would end up taking so long to obtain that most, if not all, women seeking them wouldn’t be able to get them until they passed a time threshold (probably moved up to end of first trimester) where all abortions are banned, so they still wouldn’t be able to get them.

[Anonymous]

If Roe gets overturned, it goes back to the states. So, we will have the elites able to get abortions and those living in bad states not able to do so.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If Roe gets overturned, it goes back to the states. So, we will have the elites able to get abortions and those living in bad states not able to do so.

So further brain drain and more haves v have nots.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Roe gets overturned, it goes back to the states. So, we will have the elites able to get abortions and those living in bad states not able to do so.

So further brain drain and more haves v have nots.

Yes, it's inevitable.

PS I don't believe Roe vs Wade would be overturned.

[Anonymous]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/21/home-abortions-emails-secret-world

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Roe isn't going anywhere. The sky is not falling.

Conservatives are pragmatists. They don't like abortion, so they tend not to have them. They also recognize the tremendous value in keeping the numbers of liberals in check that abortion provides. Margaret Sanger knew what she was doing when she founded PP.

True, they just pay off their mistresses and girlfriends to have them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lots of "vacation" trips to Canada.

Or Ireland

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Roe isn't going anywhere. The sky is not falling.

Conservatives are pragmatists. They don't like abortion, so they tend not to have them. They also recognize the tremendous value in keeping the numbers of liberals in check that abortion provides. Margaret Sanger knew what she was doing when she founded PP.

True, they just pay off their mistresses and girlfriends to have them.

Most of my conservative friends top desire is to make abortion illegal. What they do t realize it is the law will eventually affect their daughters who are dealing with difficult pregnancies or miscarriages, but won't affect rich Republicans who will fly their mistresses and daughters to places with abortion.

They also live in areas with lots of poor people who will no longer be able to have abortions if their state goes in that direction. Resulting in lots more welfare it lots more crime. Guess they will get their wish!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Roe gets overturned, it goes back to the states. So, we will have the elites able to get abortions and those living in bad states not able to do so.

So further brain drain and more haves v have nots.

Yes, it's inevitable.

PS I don't believe Roe vs Wade would be overturned.

Why would it not? No shortage of people want it gone. It’s a good bet that 4 on the court right now want it gone. I read once that the decision is taught in law school as bad law; there is no such constitutional right.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Roe isn't going anywhere. The sky is not falling.

Conservatives are pragmatists. They don't like abortion, so they tend not to have them. They also recognize the tremendous value in keeping the numbers of liberals in check that abortion provides. Margaret Sanger knew what she was doing when she founded PP.

True, they just pay off their mistresses and girlfriends to have them.

Most of my conservative friends top desire is to make abortion illegal. What they do t realize it is the law will eventually affect their daughters who are dealing with difficult pregnancies or miscarriages, but won't affect rich Republicans who will fly their mistresses and daughters to places with abortion.

They also live in areas with lots of poor people who will no longer be able to have abortions if their state goes in that direction. Resulting in lots more welfare it lots more crime. Guess they will get their wish!

I am sure your friends motives have nothing to do with not wanting a baby ripped apart and pulled out of the womb. Glad you laid out the reality driving their position.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If Roe gets overturned, it goes back to the states. So, we will have the elites able to get abortions and those living in bad states not able to do so.

So further brain drain and more haves v have nots.

Yes, it's inevitable.

PS I don't believe Roe vs Wade would be overturned.

Why would it not? No shortage of people want it gone. It’s a good bet that 4 on the court right now want it gone. I read once that the decision is taught in law school as bad law; there is no such constitutional right.

Agreed. You would not know it from this leftist board, but the majority of American's are pro life. Highly likely it will gain momentum after the far right appointment that is soon to be.

https://www.liveaction.org/news/gallups-newest-poll-shows-americans-consider-pro-life/