Predictions for crown high school

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t wait for Wooton to have a lot of FARMS kids transferred in and all the people living in the district lose $500,000 on their homes. They’ll all be upside down on their mortgages. It will be great.

When they rezoned Horizon Hill from Wootton to RM people didn't move. They just sent their kids to private school. Property values aren't down *that* much compared to the Wootton cluster. *Maybe* it'll go down by $50K or so. You are quite nasty, though, to wish that on people. Why so jealous?

I don't live in Wootton cluster, btw.

Um, the prices are about $100K different from houses in Horizon Hill compared to Fallsmead and Fox Hills West.

But yes, Horizon Hill STILL has a ton of kids in private school. It is just a thing there.

Not really.

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Rockville/1313-Fallsmead-Way-20854/home/10517763

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Rockville/7-Olmstead-Ct-20854/home/10525042

And there are lots of kids who go to private school who live in Churchill and Whitman. So what?

The Olmstead one has 1 more bathroom, is remodeled, new floors, brand new kitchen, etc... it has been on the market for 50 days

The other one was just listed. Nothing remodeled, 1 less full bath. Still over $50K higher and will sell this week for that low price.

So yes, the first will eventually sell for $700K and the other will sell for $780K and you will have to put $30K minimum into it for updates.

The fallsmead home is bigger, has a better and more traditional floor plan, and is further from the road (not backing into a major street)

Also, look at the homes sold in the last year between the two neighborhoods. The price difference for comparable homes is closer to $50K, and in some cases about the same.

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Rockville/26-Rock-Falls-Ct-20854/home/10534881

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Rockville/17-Blueberry-Ridge-Ct-20854/home/10525368

It's just not apples to apples comparing neighborhoods. We can probably find plenty of examples where the home prices were equal and where they were not. In general, the Horizon Hill homes will be larger than those in Fallsmead. Whether the neighborhoods are comparable in price is really unclear. I imagine that if Horizon Hill were put in the catchment for Fallsmead ES, Horizon Hill homes would probably be higher priced than Fallsmead Homes. So there is likely some minor adjustment for schools, but it isn't as big as $100k. If Horizon Hill were put into Cold Spring, I imagine the price change would be similarly up a bit.

That was my point.. the price differential is not $100K, but more like $50k.

In any case, the original point was that Wootton home prices won't go down *that* much. People are running around like the sky is falling, and it's not. Your kids will do just as well with a few more FARMs kids in the school. They are not contagious by any means.

I can assure you if certain Wootton neighborhoods get moved to Crown or Gaithersburg, they will indeed go down. Especially Gaithersburg. Not only because of school, but how far it could take to get there

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I can assure you if certain Wootton neighborhoods get moved to Crown or Gaithersburg, they will indeed go down. Especially Gaithersburg. Not only because of school, but how far it could take to get there

And so therefore MCPS shouldn't move these neighborhoods?

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This is a strange thread. Perhaps I missed it but where exactly did an identified Wootton parent trash RM? The only 2 W posters (one of whom was me) have been fine/favorable to RM. The IB program makes RM very attractive to people looking at the Wootton area for good schools and the high academic reputation at Wootton makes it attractive to people looking in RM for good schools. I think there is far more similarities between Wootton/RM than say Wootton/QO. The other weird thing is the poster who really wants Dufief to be knocked out of Wootton. StoneMill which already has split articulation into Cabin John and then back to Wootton is closer to Crown and has the split. Dufief kids go to Frost which has no split.

Last but not least is the poster who is just hoping that Wootton will be destroyed and everyone that lives in the cluster will lose 500K -which isn't even realistic but why on earth is your priority to knock down a successful area of the county? This is worse than the DCC parents who desperately want boundary changes so they get into Blair and their house prices go up.

What the spiteful, I can get revenge for some perceived hurt or my own insecurity or whatever posters do not understand is that significant boundary changes in al already failing county and failing school system would hurt everyone. It won't make the "winners'" houses appreciate because no one will trust that this school wont be next by the time their kids are in school. If MCPS honestly wants to balance FARMS it will have to keep shifting the boundaries or it will have achieved nothing. It is another huge win for NOVA.

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RM is a great school. Very well-rounded which is something that Wootton lacks. I would send my kids to either school in a heart beat, but for the future I'm not sure I would send DC to wootton because of how(not to be racist just for the vibe of the school) asian it will be. The projections show it will become more asian than white in 10 years(check MCPS planning website). Not to be racist at all but I do want to send my kids to a more diverse school, not a majority one-race school. And, the school is WAY to competitive and a toxic environment. Not to say that RM is a little sketchy, but sometimes it is good to expose your kid to stuff when they are in high school in my opinion.

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Anonymous wrote:This is a strange thread. Perhaps I missed it but where exactly did an identified Wootton parent trash RM? The only 2 W posters (one of whom was me) have been fine/favorable to RM. The IB program makes RM very attractive to people looking at the Wootton area for good schools and the high academic reputation at Wootton makes it attractive to people looking in RM for good schools. I think there is far more similarities between Wootton/RM than say Wootton/QO. The other weird thing is the poster who really wants Dufief to be knocked out of Wootton. StoneMill which already has split articulation into Cabin John and then back to Wootton is closer to Crown and has the split. Dufief kids go to Frost which has no split.

Last but not least is the poster who is just hoping that Wootton will be destroyed and everyone that lives in the cluster will lose 500K -which isn't even realistic but why on earth is your priority to knock down a successful area of the county? This is worse than the DCC parents who desperately want boundary changes so they get into Blair and their house prices go up.

What the spiteful, I can get revenge for some perceived hurt or my own insecurity or whatever posters do not understand is that significant boundary changes in al already failing county and failing school system would hurt everyone. It won't make the "winners'" houses appreciate because no one will trust that this school wont be next by the time their kids are in school. If MCPS honestly wants to balance FARMS it will have to keep shifting the boundaries or it will have achieved nothing. It is another huge win for NOVA.

QO and Wootton are similar academically(both top ranked schools) and wealth-wise(look at the houses, cars, and home prices in either district) but the environment of the two is drastically different. While Wootton is known for being very competitive, academically inclined, and "toxic", QO is known for being more about school spirit and being well-rounded with top academics as well. It's all about the type of environment and community you want for DC!

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Anonymous wrote:RM is a great school. Very well-rounded which is something that Wootton lacks. I would send my kids to either school in a heart beat, but for the future I'm not sure I would send DC to wootton because of how(not to be racist just for the vibe of the school) asian it will be. The projections show it will become more asian than white in 10 years(check MCPS planning website). Not to be racist at all but I do want to send my kids to a more diverse school, not a majority one-race school. And, the school is WAY to competitive and a toxic environment. Not to say that RM is a little sketchy, but sometimes it is good to expose your kid to stuff when they are in high school in my opinion.

I feel the same way, and I'm Asian American and live in RM cluster, so I don't think you're racist to think this way.

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QO and Wootton are similar academically(both top ranked schools) and wealth-wise(look at the houses, cars, and home prices in either district) but the environment of the two is drastically different. While Wootton is known for being very competitive, academically inclined, and "toxic", QO is known for being more about school spirit and being well-rounded with top academics as well. It's all about the type of environment and community you want for DC!

(I think that means athletics.)

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QO and Wootton are similar academically(both top ranked schools) and wealth-wise(look at the houses, cars, and home prices in either district) but the environment of the two is drastically different. While Wootton is known for being very competitive, academically inclined, and "toxic", QO is known for being more about school spirit and being well-rounded with top academics as well. It's all about the type of environment and community you want for DC!

Wootton/RM and QO are not similar academically. QO is very mediocre, too rah rah without much to rah rah about and there is far too much emphasis on sports. It reminds me of the public school back when I was growing up in a fly over state. The racial problems at the QO school are also a real issue, RM has much kinder students. Wootton and RM are nerdier. They have far more international families than QO. I've also heard that Wootton is only competitive if you are academically competitive. If you aren't then its not an issue.

If your kids listen to NPR go to RM or Wootton. If your kids watch the Disney channel all day long go to QO.

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Anonymous wrote:RM is a great school. Very well-rounded which is something that Wootton lacks. I would send my kids to either school in a heart beat, but for the future I'm not sure I would send DC to wootton because of how(not to be racist just for the vibe of the school) asian it will be. The projections show it will become more asian than white in 10 years(check MCPS planning website). Not to be racist at all but I do want to send my kids to a more diverse school, not a majority one-race school. And, the school is WAY to competitive and a toxic environment. Not to say that RM is a little sketchy, but sometimes it is good to expose your kid to stuff when they are in high school in my opinion.

Yes, 18yr old illegal alien freshman having sex with 15yr old freshman in the hallways and streaming it live is always fun to expose them to. I hear MS-13 have a lot of school spirit too.

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Could the high school students please get off this thread? We're trying to have an adult discussion here.

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Anonymous wrote:RM is a great school. Very well-rounded which is something that Wootton lacks. I would send my kids to either school in a heart beat, but for the future I'm not sure I would send DC to wootton because of how(not to be racist just for the vibe of the school) asian it will be. The projections show it will become more asian than white in 10 years(check MCPS planning website). Not to be racist at all but I do want to send my kids to a more diverse school, not a majority one-race school. And, the school is WAY to competitive and a toxic environment. Not to say that RM is a little sketchy, but sometimes it is good to expose your kid to stuff when they are in high school in my opinion.

Yes, 18yr old illegal alien freshman having sex with 15yr old freshman in the hallways and streaming it live is always fun to expose them to. I hear MS-13 have a lot of school spirit too.

Would it be better if a 17 yr old wealthy white prep boy attempted to rape a girl at a party? There is no MS13 at RM. If there is, then Churchill as a 54 mob gang problem. And if RM is terrible, then so is Wootton for having parents who allow under age drinking and letting them lose on the public driving while under the influence.

I'd rather my kid be a witness to some teens having sex than dying in a car cash due to some pretty bad parenting in that cluster. Didn't that same parent organize a spring break party in Mexico where the drinking age limit is 18?

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Anonymous wrote:RM is a great school. Very well-rounded which is something that Wootton lacks. I would send my kids to either school in a heart beat, but for the future I'm not sure I would send DC to wootton because of how(not to be racist just for the vibe of the school) asian it will be. The projections show it will become more asian than white in 10 years(check MCPS planning website). Not to be racist at all but I do want to send my kids to a more diverse school, not a majority one-race school. And, the school is WAY to competitive and a toxic environment. Not to say that RM is a little sketchy, but sometimes it is good to expose your kid to stuff when they are in high school in my opinion.

Yes, 18yr old illegal alien freshman having sex with 15yr old freshman in the hallways and streaming it live is always fun to expose them to. I hear MS-13 have a lot of school spirit too.

How many years ago was it now? 5? 6? I don't think they had live streaming then

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It's all irrelevant and hypothetical at this point. There isn't a shovel in the ground, or even a predicted completion date yet, and MCPS won't start the boundary study process until 18 months out from the completion date (at LEAST 6 years from now).

But sure, go ahead and get your panties in a wad now about what you know will happen.

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I don't think they have the money to build Crown. Its not just the one time build expense but the debt service that is taken on to pay it off. The county doesn't have the money. The debt service is already too high and the county is looking at service cuts or raising taxes just to tread water.

Inexplicably, the residents in the east side of the county seems to be very supportive of the Kirwan commission report which proposed to reallocate state money (collected from Montgomery County property tax) to Baltimore which would create a 20%-70% reduction to the MCPS operating budget. This will put any construction project on indefinite hold for a long time.

It was stupid for the BOE to make this diversity priority. In light of the budget issues, they will have no choice but to look at boundaries from a utilization standpoint which may or may not give MCPS the SES demographics it wants. The alternative to keep kids in highly over enrolled and under enrolled schools while the BOE harms real estate values with their empty threats or promises depending on which cluster you are in...

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think they have the money to build Crown. Its not just the one time build expense but the debt service that is taken on to pay it off. The county doesn't have the money. The debt service is already too high and the county is looking at service cuts or raising taxes just to tread water.

Inexplicably, the residents in the east side of the county seems to be very supportive of the Kirwan commission report which proposed to reallocate state money (collected from Montgomery County property tax) to Baltimore which would create a 20%-70% reduction to the MCPS operating budget. This will put any construction project on indefinite hold for a long time.

It was stupid for the BOE to make this diversity priority. In light of the budget issues, they will have no choice but to look at boundaries from a utilization standpoint which may or may not give MCPS the SES demographics it wants. The alternative to keep kids in highly over enrolled and under enrolled schools while the BOE harms real estate values with their empty threats or promises depending on which cluster you are in...

Yes, they do.

Also, MCPS does not pay for school construction out of its operating budget.