Predictions for crown high school

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Anonymous wrote:The Ritchie Park change was like 30 years ago. No one who owned then is sending kids to school anymore. RM has also totally changed with the magnet, King Farm, FallsGrove, Parc Potomac.

They still own the homes you moron. Many of whom will be selling in the next 10 years.

And adding a program that actually decreases local RM non-Ib kids chances of getting into decent colleges and adding a few new developments, doesn't negate how trashy the school is.

Richard Montgomery HS is trashy? Meaning what? People litter?

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I pity any neighborhood that will get zoned for Gaithersburg High School. There is no amount of boundary changes that will fix that high school.

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Anonymous wrote:The Ritchie Park change was like 30 years ago. No one who owned then is sending kids to school anymore. RM has also totally changed with the magnet, King Farm, FallsGrove, Parc Potomac.

They still own the homes you moron. Many of whom will be selling in the next 10 years.

And adding a program that actually decreases local RM non-Ib kids chances of getting into decent colleges and adding a few new developments, doesn't negate how trashy the school is.

Richard Montgomery HS is trashy? Meaning what? People litter?

Yes PP, I am sure that is what they meant.

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Anonymous wrote:The Ritchie Park change was like 30 years ago. No one who owned then is sending kids to school anymore. RM has also totally changed with the magnet, King Farm, FallsGrove, Parc Potomac.

They still own the homes you moron. Many of whom will be selling in the next 10 years.

And adding a program that actually decreases local RM non-Ib kids chances of getting into decent colleges and adding a few new developments, doesn't negate how trashy the school is.

In this area, homeownership of 30-40 years is pretty rare...so tempting to add an insult back to you but I won't.

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The areas that feed into RM that are next to the Wootton cluster are really nice. I thought RM was very attractive to people because as long as your child has the grades and scores then they can go into the IB program which is just as good if not better than taking the top classes at Wootton. (Its harsh but if your kid can't get into the IB program from being in boundary in RM then they wouldn't do very well at Wootton either.)

I'm the PP and I would agree. We actually chose the RM cluster just for this reason - the in cluster IB program advantage. But, if they aren't at that level, then RM has a track for them, too - AP or not. Didn't want the pressure cooker environment at Wootton if they aren't going to be super achievers.

I also liked RM cluster because it's probably the most diverse cluster in the whole of MCPS. It's got a really good balance and well rounded student body.

Not really.

RM: 24.7% Asian, 17.5% black, 23.4% Hispanic, 29.5% white, 8.9% ESOL, 19.5% FARMs, 7.0% SPED, 37.4% ever FARMs
Northwest: 20.0% Asian, 26.3% black, 20.5% Hispanic, 28.0% white, <5.0% ESOL, 22.5% FARMs, 9.8% SPED, 43.2% ever FARMs
Clarksburg: 19.0% Asian, 28.9% black, 27.9% Hispanic, 19.8% white, 8.0% ESOL, 26.8% FARMs, 9.4% SPED, 51.6% ever FARMs
MCPS high school: 14.7% Asian, 21.4% black, 29.5% Hispanic, 30.0% white, 11.2% ESOL, 27.0% FARMs, 10.0% SPED, 46.1% ever FARMs

So you looked at every high school in the county and found two that looked close to RM and said RM is not the most diverse? This pretty much verifies it’s if not the most diverse, among the most diverse. I’m not sure why you think these other two are more diverse. I’m ignoring the last one that says “MCPS High School”.

MCPS high school is the overall MCPS high school enrollment.

It is well-known that Northwest and Clarksburg both have very diverse student bodies.

Northwest I could agree may be considered more diverse so there's one high school more diverse than RM and RM does a better job teaching. Clarksburg on the other hand? It looks like it's mostly black and hispanic. This reminds me of a post I saw on some other forum where an African American woman wanted a "diverse" high school - mostly black. Clarksburg isn't as diverse as the other two. White's and Asians are underrepresented.

Only on DCUM would 57% be "mostly". Not to mention that Clarksburg HS has more Asian-American students and fewer Hispanic students than the MCPS high school student population overall, yet you're saying that Asian-American students are underrepresented and Hispanic students are overrepresented.

Alright let's table that argument and say I agree with you that there are two high schools more diverse than RM. How does that at all change the argument that RM is diverse? If you the words "most diverse" are somehow poison to you then how about we add, "third most diverse"? Does that make you happy? That still makes it one of the most diverse in the county. You're basically arguing semantics to imply that RM is horrible. Are you the Wooton parent that is always putting down RM and saying it sucks except IB and without IB it would be one of the worst?

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Anonymous wrote:The Ritchie Park change was like 30 years ago. No one who owned then is sending kids to school anymore. RM has also totally changed with the magnet, King Farm, FallsGrove, Parc Potomac.

They still own the homes you moron. Many of whom will be selling in the next 10 years.

And adding a program that actually decreases local RM non-Ib kids chances of getting into decent colleges and adding a few new developments, doesn't negate how trashy the school is.

Richard Montgomery HS is trashy? Meaning what? People litter?

She's obviously a troll. Anything they say about RM's magnet program can be said of the top schools in the county without magnet programs. As in, do you think all those kids moving to the same areas to attend the same schools to get the best grades and the best classes are going to impact non-AP/regular student's ability to get into "decent colleges"? It's no different.

I think there's a lot of jealousy here because Wooton is going to be hurt by future boundary changes and RM will mostly be left intact. More than likely, Wooton will see home values decrease and RM will continue to appreciate because it's nice to be able to live close to the Metro.

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Anonymous wrote:The Ritchie Park change was like 30 years ago. No one who owned then is sending kids to school anymore. RM has also totally changed with the magnet, King Farm, FallsGrove, Parc Potomac.

They still own the homes you moron. Many of whom will be selling in the next 10 years.

And adding a program that actually decreases local RM non-Ib kids chances of getting into decent colleges and adding a few new developments, doesn't negate how trashy the school is.

Richard Montgomery HS is trashy? Meaning what? People litter?

She's obviously a troll. Anything they say about RM's magnet program can be said of the top schools in the county without magnet programs. As in, do you think all those kids moving to the same areas to attend the same schools to get the best grades and the best classes are going to impact non-AP/regular student's ability to get into "decent colleges"? It's no different.

I think there's a lot of jealousy here because Wooton is going to be hurt by future boundary changes and RM will mostly be left intact. More than likely, Wooton will see home values decrease and RM will continue to appreciate because it's nice to be able to live close to the Metro.

What the ??? Yes, those people in Potomac, North Potomac, Bethesda, etc... really would want to be in the RM district so they can live close to a metro stop.

Derwood, Lincoln Park, and Twinbrook, are all such great Metro neighborhoods.

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Anonymous wrote:The Ritchie Park change was like 30 years ago. No one who owned then is sending kids to school anymore. RM has also totally changed with the magnet, King Farm, FallsGrove, Parc Potomac.

They still own the homes you moron. Many of whom will be selling in the next 10 years.

And adding a program that actually decreases local RM non-Ib kids chances of getting into decent colleges and adding a few new developments, doesn't negate how trashy the school is.

Richard Montgomery HS is trashy? Meaning what? People litter?

She's obviously a troll. Anything they say about RM's magnet program can be said of the top schools in the county without magnet programs. As in, do you think all those kids moving to the same areas to attend the same schools to get the best grades and the best classes are going to impact non-AP/regular student's ability to get into "decent colleges"? It's no different.

I think there's a lot of jealousy here because Wooton is going to be hurt by future boundary changes and RM will mostly be left intact. More than likely, Wooton will see home values decrease and RM will continue to appreciate because it's nice to be able to live close to the Metro.

What the ??? Yes, those people in Potomac, North Potomac, Bethesda, etc... really would want to be in the RM district so they can live close to a metro stop.

Derwood, Lincoln Park, and Twinbrook, are all such great Metro neighborhoods.

We were just looking at a house in Derwood and thought it was nice. Does DCUM consider it trashy because houses are <$1 mil?

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Anonymous wrote:The Ritchie Park change was like 30 years ago. No one who owned then is sending kids to school anymore. RM has also totally changed with the magnet, King Farm, FallsGrove, Parc Potomac.

They still own the homes you moron. Many of whom will be selling in the next 10 years.

And adding a program that actually decreases local RM non-Ib kids chances of getting into decent colleges and adding a few new developments, doesn't negate how trashy the school is.

Richard Montgomery HS is trashy? Meaning what? People litter?

She's obviously a troll. Anything they say about RM's magnet program can be said of the top schools in the county without magnet programs. As in, do you think all those kids moving to the same areas to attend the same schools to get the best grades and the best classes are going to impact non-AP/regular student's ability to get into "decent colleges"? It's no different.

I think there's a lot of jealousy here because Wooton is going to be hurt by future boundary changes and RM will mostly be left intact. More than likely, Wooton will see home values decrease and RM will continue to appreciate because it's nice to be able to live close to the Metro.

What the ??? Yes, those people in Potomac, North Potomac, Bethesda, etc... really would want to be in the RM district so they can live close to a metro stop.

Derwood, Lincoln Park, and Twinbrook, are all such great Metro neighborhoods.

We were just looking at a house in Derwood and thought it was nice. Does DCUM consider it trashy because houses are <$1 mil?

The only concern I'd have on buying in Derwood is that it's on the "wrong side of the tracks". As in, East of the railroad tracks so a lot of people wouldn't buy there. It also places it at risk for redistricting to either Gaithersburg or Rockville High. Right now it goes to Beall ES. You'd be safer from redistricting if you were walking distance to Beall.

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Anonymous wrote:The Ritchie Park change was like 30 years ago. No one who owned then is sending kids to school anymore. RM has also totally changed with the magnet, King Farm, FallsGrove, Parc Potomac.

They still own the homes you moron. Many of whom will be selling in the next 10 years.

And adding a program that actually decreases local RM non-Ib kids chances of getting into decent colleges and adding a few new developments, doesn't negate how trashy the school is.

Richard Montgomery HS is trashy? Meaning what? People litter?

She's obviously a troll. Anything they say about RM's magnet program can be said of the top schools in the county without magnet programs. As in, do you think all those kids moving to the same areas to attend the same schools to get the best grades and the best classes are going to impact non-AP/regular student's ability to get into "decent colleges"? It's no different.

I think there's a lot of jealousy here because Wooton is going to be hurt by future boundary changes and RM will mostly be left intact. More than likely, Wooton will see home values decrease and RM will continue to appreciate because it's nice to be able to live close to the Metro.

What the ??? Yes, those people in Potomac, North Potomac, Bethesda, etc... really would want to be in the RM district so they can live close to a metro stop.

Derwood, Lincoln Park, and Twinbrook, are all such great Metro neighborhoods.

We were just looking at a house in Derwood and thought it was nice. Does DCUM consider it trashy because houses are <$1 mil?

The only concern I'd have on buying in Derwood is that it's on the "wrong side of the tracks". As in, East of the railroad tracks so a lot of people wouldn't buy there. It also places it at risk for redistricting to either Gaithersburg or Rockville High. Right now it goes to Beall ES. You'd be safer from redistricting if you were walking distance to Beall.

Derwood goes to College Gardens..

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Anonymous wrote:The Ritchie Park change was like 30 years ago. No one who owned then is sending kids to school anymore. RM has also totally changed with the magnet, King Farm, FallsGrove, Parc Potomac.

They still own the homes you moron. Many of whom will be selling in the next 10 years.

And adding a program that actually decreases local RM non-Ib kids chances of getting into decent colleges and adding a few new developments, doesn't negate how trashy the school is.

Richard Montgomery HS is trashy? Meaning what? People litter?

She's obviously a troll. Anything they say about RM's magnet program can be said of the top schools in the county without magnet programs. As in, do you think all those kids moving to the same areas to attend the same schools to get the best grades and the best classes are going to impact non-AP/regular student's ability to get into "decent colleges"? It's no different.

I think there's a lot of jealousy here because Wooton is going to be hurt by future boundary changes and RM will mostly be left intact. More than likely, Wooton will see home values decrease and RM will continue to appreciate because it's nice to be able to live close to the Metro.

What the ??? Yes, those people in Potomac, North Potomac, Bethesda, etc... really would want to be in the RM district so they can live close to a metro stop.

Derwood, Lincoln Park, and Twinbrook, are all such great Metro neighborhoods.

We were just looking at a house in Derwood and thought it was nice. Does DCUM consider it trashy because houses are <$1 mil?

The only concern I'd have on buying in Derwood is that it's on the "wrong side of the tracks". As in, East of the railroad tracks so a lot of people wouldn't buy there. It also places it at risk for redistricting to either Gaithersburg or Rockville High. Right now it goes to Beall ES. You'd be safer from redistricting if you were walking distance to Beall.

Derwood goes to College Gardens..

Or Candlewood.

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What the ??? Yes, those people in Potomac, North Potomac, Bethesda, etc... really would want to be in the RM district so they can live close to a metro stop.

Derwood, Lincoln Park, and Twinbrook, are all such great Metro neighborhoods.

Lincoln Park is difficult to get into and out of - it's on the wrong side of the tracks, for historical reasons that Montgomery County should not be proud of -- but Twinbrook is a great Metro neighborhood. We've been in the Siberian Hinterlands for two decades, but if I were to do it over again, I'd focus on Twinbrook.

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Alright let's table that argument and say I agree with you that there are two high schools more diverse than RM. How does that at all change the argument that RM is diverse? If you the words "most diverse" are somehow poison to you then how about we add, "third most diverse"? Does that make you happy? That still makes it one of the most diverse in the county. You're basically arguing semantics to imply that RM is horrible. Are you the Wooton parent that is always putting down RM and saying it sucks except IB and without IB it would be one of the worst?

I'm the person you're responding to. My only point was that Richard Montgomery is not the most diverse high school in MCPS. That's it.

Plus, if anything, it's on the more affluent/less disadvantaged end of the spectrum of MCPS high schools. The Wootton "RM is trashy" people are fools.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t wait for Wooton to have a lot of FARMS kids transferred in and all the people living in the district lose $500,000 on their homes. They’ll all be upside down on their mortgages. It will be great.

When they rezoned Horizon Hill from Wootton to RM people didn't move. They just sent their kids to private school. Property values aren't down *that* much compared to the Wootton cluster. *Maybe* it'll go down by $50K or so. You are quite nasty, though, to wish that on people. Why so jealous?

I don't live in Wootton cluster, btw.

Um, the prices are about $100K different from houses in Horizon Hill compared to Fallsmead and Fox Hills West.

But yes, Horizon Hill STILL has a ton of kids in private school. It is just a thing there.

Not really.

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Rockville/1313-Fallsmead-Way-20854/home/10517763

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Rockville/7-Olmstead-Ct-20854/home/10525042

And there are lots of kids who go to private school who live in Churchill and Whitman. So what?

The Olmstead one has 1 more bathroom, is remodeled, new floors, brand new kitchen, etc... it has been on the market for 50 days

The other one was just listed. Nothing remodeled, 1 less full bath. Still over $50K higher and will sell this week for that low price.

So yes, the first will eventually sell for $700K and the other will sell for $780K and you will have to put $30K minimum into it for updates.

The fallsmead home is bigger, has a better and more traditional floor plan, and is further from the road (not backing into a major street)

Also, look at the homes sold in the last year between the two neighborhoods. The price difference for comparable homes is closer to $50K, and in some cases about the same.

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Rockville/26-Rock-Falls-Ct-20854/home/10534881

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Rockville/17-Blueberry-Ridge-Ct-20854/home/10525368

It's just not apples to apples comparing neighborhoods. We can probably find plenty of examples where the home prices were equal and where they were not. In general, the Horizon Hill homes will be larger than those in Fallsmead. Whether the neighborhoods are comparable in price is really unclear. I imagine that if Horizon Hill were put in the catchment for Fallsmead ES, Horizon Hill homes would probably be higher priced than Fallsmead Homes. So there is likely some minor adjustment for schools, but it isn't as big as $100k. If Horizon Hill were put into Cold Spring, I imagine the price change would be similarly up a bit.

That was my point.. the price differential is not $100K, but more like $50k.

In any case, the original point was that Wootton home prices won't go down *that* much. People are running around like the sky is falling, and it's not. Your kids will do just as well with a few more FARMs kids in the school. They are not contagious by any means.

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Alright let's table that argument and say I agree with you that there are two high schools more diverse than RM. How does that at all change the argument that RM is diverse? If you the words "most diverse" are somehow poison to you then how about we add, "third most diverse"? Does that make you happy? That still makes it one of the most diverse in the county. You're basically arguing semantics to imply that RM is horrible. Are you the Wooton parent that is always putting down RM and saying it sucks except IB and without IB it would be one of the worst?

I'm the person you're responding to. My only point was that Richard Montgomery is not the most diverse high school in MCPS. That's it.

Plus, if anything, it's on the more affluent/less disadvantaged end of the spectrum of MCPS high schools. The Wootton "RM is trashy" people are fools.

Indeed.. that's why it's diverse. Being heavily low income is not diverse either. Diversity means balance and an equal representation of each group. JWMS has over 70 languages spoken, people from 50 different countries. That's pretty diverse.

I think the "RM is trashy" person is a troll, but if this person isn't, it doesn't bother me one bit (we are in RM cluster). I'll take "trashy" over snobby, entitled, and self centered any day.

It's so "trashy" that we have doctors, lawyers, scientists who send their kids to that cluster. It's so trashy that so many of our best and brightest in MCPS apply to go to the IB program there.