Are women constantly being harassed or does the news recently just make it feel that way?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's blown out of proportion. I am a woman. I am average looking. Statistically speaking most women are average looking. We don't live in a sexually repressed society. It is easy to get sex. Women are not that harassed as it is portrayed by the media. We do not live on a planet where every woman is a ten, supermodel type. Sorry to say this but lots of women are not that attractive to men. Therefore, the media witch hunt of all men and false victimization of all women is simply false.

It would appear that you are in a small minority of women who think this way. If you are, indeed, a woman.

I am def a woman. I am Eastern European.
I am so sorry to break it down to all reading this thread but most women are simply not that gorgeous. In order for an average man to desire a woman sexually he needs to be attracted to some of her features and vice versa.
Therefore, the media narrative is false.
As with everything there are exceptions where criminals attack old women, children, disabled, etc. However, those are the exceptions. The media keeps spinning the false narrative how every average woman is absolutely overwhelmed by male sexual attention. Men in the West can get sex easily, they don't need to harass average looking women and get into trouble for it.

[Anonymous]

I'm almost 50yo and a lifelong feminist, but honestly I think the current conversation about harassment is exhibiting a dangerous tendency to universalize some very very awful behavior. Yes, there are some abusive men in the workplace, but -- as someone who has worked in academia, the public sector, and the private sector (as well as lots of less glamorous jobs growing up as a waitress and a temp office worker through grad school) I don't believe that sexual harassment is ubiquitous. I have never experienced it myself; just the opposite, I've had a series of decent male bosses and colleagues who've helped me make a great career. I've experienced plenty of sexism and other negative impacts related to being a female in a male-dominated profession, but not sexual harassment.

I don't question anyone else's experience, but I have a lot of friends and female colleagues who are all over social media insisting that sexual harassment ala Charlie Rose and the rest happens to everyone. I don't think that's accurate, and I think the public debate needs to modulate a bit to acknowledge that many (perhaps even most) men in the workplace are decent and respectful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's blown out of proportion. I am a woman. I am average looking. Statistically speaking most women are average looking. We don't live in a sexually repressed society. It is easy to get sex. Women are not that harassed as it is portrayed by the media. We do not live on a planet where every woman is a ten, supermodel type. Sorry to say this but lots of women are not that attractive to men. Therefore, the media witch hunt of all men and false victimization of all women is simply false.

It would appear that you are in a small minority of women who think this way. If you are, indeed, a woman.

I am def a woman. I am Eastern European.
I am so sorry to break it down to all reading this thread but most women are simply not that gorgeous. In order for an average man to desire a woman sexually he needs to be attracted to some of her features and vice versa.
Therefore, the media narrative is false.
As with everything there are exceptions where criminals attack old women, children, disabled, etc. However, those are the exceptions. The media keeps spinning the false narrative how every average woman is absolutely overwhelmed by male sexual attention. Men in the West can get sex easily, they don't need to harass average looking women and get into trouble for it.

It isn't about sex! It is about weilding power and humiliating people. It has zero to do with looks or manner of dress. You can't be this dense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm almost 50yo and a lifelong feminist, but honestly I think the current conversation about harassment is exhibiting a dangerous tendency to universalize some very very awful behavior. Yes, there are some abusive men in the workplace, but -- as someone who has worked in academia, the public sector, and the private sector (as well as lots of less glamorous jobs growing up as a waitress and a temp office worker through grad school) I don't believe that sexual harassment is ubiquitous. I have never experienced it myself; just the opposite, I've had a series of decent male bosses and colleagues who've helped me make a great career. I've experienced plenty of sexism and other negative impacts related to being a female in a male-dominated profession, but not sexual harassment.

I don't question anyone else's experience, but I have a lot of friends and female colleagues who are all over social media insisting that sexual harassment ala Charlie Rose and the rest happens to everyone. I don't think that's accurate, and I think the public debate needs to modulate a bit to acknowledge that many (perhaps even most) men in the workplace are decent and respectful.

Do you present as male? I'm only half serious. It is difficult to believe a woman can reach 50 years of age and never experienced harassment. Perhaps you can let the rest of us wonen and our young female relatives know your secret to privacy and personal safety while moving about the world. You'll be rich!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's blown out of proportion. I am a woman. I am average looking. Statistically speaking most women are average looking. We don't live in a sexually repressed society. It is easy to get sex. Women are not that harassed as it is portrayed by the media. We do not live on a planet where every woman is a ten, supermodel type. Sorry to say this but lots of women are not that attractive to men. Therefore, the media witch hunt of all men and false victimization of all women is simply false.

It would appear that you are in a small minority of women who think this way. If you are, indeed, a woman.

I am def a woman. I am Eastern European.
I am so sorry to break it down to all reading this thread but most women are simply not that gorgeous. In order for an average man to desire a woman sexually he needs to be attracted to some of her features and vice versa.
Therefore, the media narrative is false.
As with everything there are exceptions where criminals attack old women, children, disabled, etc. However, those are the exceptions. The media keeps spinning the false narrative how every average woman is absolutely overwhelmed by male sexual attention. Men in the West can get sex easily, they don't need to harass average looking women and get into trouble for it.

It isn't about sex! It is about weilding power and humiliating people. It has zero to do with looks or manner of dress. You can't be this dense.

No one cares about humiliating you or wielding any power over you. Unless you are a daughter of a billionaire you are simply insignificant. No one will spend their time and energy to wield anything over you because you simply don't matter.
And you will be even more insignificant when AI takes over. Get out of the false narrative, if you are capable of it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's blown out of proportion. I am a woman. I am average looking. Statistically speaking most women are average looking. We don't live in a sexually repressed society. It is easy to get sex. Women are not that harassed as it is portrayed by the media. We do not live on a planet where every woman is a ten, supermodel type. Sorry to say this but lots of women are not that attractive to men. Therefore, the media witch hunt of all men and false victimization of all women is simply false.

It would appear that you are in a small minority of women who think this way. If you are, indeed, a woman.

I am def a woman. I am Eastern European.
I am so sorry to break it down to all reading this thread but most women are simply not that gorgeous. In order for an average man to desire a woman sexually he needs to be attracted to some of her features and vice versa.
Therefore, the media narrative is false.
As with everything there are exceptions where criminals attack old women, children, disabled, etc. However, those are the exceptions. The media keeps spinning the false narrative how every average woman is absolutely overwhelmed by male sexual attention. Men in the West can get sex easily, they don't need to harass average looking women and get into trouble for it.

It isn't about sex! It is about weilding power and humiliating people. It has zero to do with looks or manner of dress. You can't be this dense.

No one cares about humiliating you or wielding any power over you. Unless you are a daughter of a billionaire you are simply insignificant. No one will spend their time and energy to wield anything over you because you simply don't matter.
And you will be even more insignificant when AI takes over. Get out of the false narrative, if you are capable of it.

Careful. Your Eastern European is showing.....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's blown out of proportion. I am a woman. I am average looking. Statistically speaking most women are average looking. We don't live in a sexually repressed society. It is easy to get sex. Women are not that harassed as it is portrayed by the media. We do not live on a planet where every woman is a ten, supermodel type. Sorry to say this but lots of women are not that attractive to men. Therefore, the media witch hunt of all men and false victimization of all women is simply false.

You assume that only attractive women get assaulted, which is false. I remember about a decade ago an 80+ year old woman was raped in her home in the DC area.

Seriously, it has nothing to do with looks. If you haven’t experienced harassment it’s because you are LUCKY and no other reason.

[Anonymous]

I used to plan my walk routes from school such that I'd have the least chance of walking past men. I'd even cross the street if I saw a group of guys on the next block. We're talking a middle school to high school.

I thought getting married (that is wearing a wedding band) would help but some men don't care. Not long ago when I was 8 months pregnant a man asked me out. I looked at my heavily pregnant belly and looked at him, like he was crazy. I told him I was married and that man happened to be father of my nearly full term baby. He persisted and said we should "run away together". I'm grateful that I haven't had any negative experiences at my place of work and I truly pray that doesn't change.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I used to plan my walk routes from school such that I'd have the least chance of walking past men. I'd even cross the street if I saw a group of guys on the next block. We're talking a middle school to high school.

I thought getting married (that is wearing a wedding band) would help but some men don't care. Not long ago when I was 8 months pregnant a man asked me out. I looked at my heavily pregnant belly and looked at him, like he was crazy. I told him I was married and that man happened to be father of my nearly full term baby. He persisted and said we should "run away together". I'm grateful that I haven't had any negative experiences at my place of work and I truly pray that doesn't change.

As a woman I fail to see how did this guy harass you. Did he stalk you, call you, text you, or touch you inappropriately? If yes than we can talk about harassment. What I see is that he is someone who is desperate, sad, immature, and with bad manners. If anything he is a truly sad sap, not someone to be afraid of.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to plan my walk routes from school such that I'd have the least chance of walking past men. I'd even cross the street if I saw a group of guys on the next block. We're talking a middle school to high school.

I thought getting married (that is wearing a wedding band) would help but some men don't care. Not long ago when I was 8 months pregnant a man asked me out. I looked at my heavily pregnant belly and looked at him, like he was crazy. I told him I was married and that man happened to be father of my nearly full term baby. He persisted and said we should "run away together". I'm grateful that I haven't had any negative experiences at my place of work and I truly pray that doesn't change.

As a woman I fail to see how did this guy harass you. Did he stalk you, call you, text you, or touch you inappropriately? If yes than we can talk about harassment. What I see is that he is someone who is desperate, sad, immature, and with bad manners. If anything he is a truly sad sap, not someone to be afraid of.

She told him "no," and he kept going. My kids know that if they ask once, it's fine. If they get an answer and they ask again, they're in trouble. The people raising their kids to do otherwise are making this world a shittier place to live.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

No one cares about humiliating you or wielding any power over you. Unless you are a daughter of a billionaire you are simply insignificant. No one will spend their time and energy to wield anything over you because you simply don't matter.
And you will be even more insignificant when AI takes over. Get out of the false narrative, if you are capable of it.

Here's a study showing that female-initiated disruption of a male hierarchy incites hostile behavior from poor performing males towards females. The study was done anonymously with on-line gamers. Poorly performing males stand to lose status and as a result are hostile toward a female teammates.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0131613

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's blown out of proportion. I am a woman. I am average looking. Statistically speaking most women are average looking. We don't live in a sexually repressed society. It is easy to get sex. Women are not that harassed as it is portrayed by the media. We do not live on a planet where every woman is a ten, supermodel type. Sorry to say this but lots of women are not that attractive to men. Therefore, the media witch hunt of all men and false victimization of all women is simply false.

It would appear that you are in a small minority of women who think this way. If you are, indeed, a woman.

I am def a woman. I am Eastern European.
I am so sorry to break it down to all reading this thread but most women are simply not that gorgeous. In order for an average man to desire a woman sexually he needs to be attracted to some of her features and vice versa.
Therefore, the media narrative is false.
As with everything there are exceptions where criminals attack old women, children, disabled, etc. However, those are the exceptions. The media keeps spinning the false narrative how every average woman is absolutely overwhelmed by male sexual attention. Men in the West can get sex easily, they don't need to harass average looking women and get into trouble for it.

This comment has nothing to do with assault or lack thereof, but I think you are DRAMATICALLY overestimating what it takes to get a man aroused. Average women inspire men's lust all day long. Honestly, it is only grotesquely unattractive or super old women who literally don't inspire male lust.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I used to plan my walk routes from school such that I'd have the least chance of walking past men. I'd even cross the street if I saw a group of guys on the next block. We're talking a middle school to high school.

I thought getting married (that is wearing a wedding band) would help but some men don't care. Not long ago when I was 8 months pregnant a man asked me out. I looked at my heavily pregnant belly and looked at him, like he was crazy. I told him I was married and that man happened to be father of my nearly full term baby. He persisted and said we should "run away together". I'm grateful that I haven't had any negative experiences at my place of work and I truly pray that doesn't change.

As a woman I fail to see how did this guy harass you. Did he stalk you, call you, text you, or touch you inappropriately? If yes than we can talk about harassment. What I see is that he is someone who is desperate, sad, immature, and with bad manners. If anything he is a truly sad sap, not someone to be afraid of.

She told him "no," and he kept going. My kids know that if they ask once, it's fine. If they get an answer and they ask again, they're in trouble. The people raising their kids to do otherwise are making this world a shittier place to live.

I always say "no" first. Many of us are. If not for persistent courtship that resulted in a marrige I wouldn't exist (parents are still happily married).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's blown out of proportion. I am a woman. I am average looking. Statistically speaking most women are average looking. We don't live in a sexually repressed society. It is easy to get sex. Women are not that harassed as it is portrayed by the media. We do not live on a planet where every woman is a ten, supermodel type. Sorry to say this but lots of women are not that attractive to men. Therefore, the media witch hunt of all men and false victimization of all women is simply false.

It would appear that you are in a small minority of women who think this way. If you are, indeed, a woman.

I am def a woman. I am Eastern European.
I am so sorry to break it down to all reading this thread but most women are simply not that gorgeous. In order for an average man to desire a woman sexually he needs to be attracted to some of her features and vice versa.
Therefore, the media narrative is false.
As with everything there are exceptions where criminals attack old women, children, disabled, etc. However, those are the exceptions. The media keeps spinning the false narrative how every average woman is absolutely overwhelmed by male sexual attention. Men in the West can get sex easily, they don't need to harass average looking women and get into trouble for it.

This comment has nothing to do with assault or lack thereof, but I think you are DRAMATICALLY overestimating what it takes to get a man aroused. Average women inspire men's lust all day long. Honestly, it is only grotesquely unattractive or super old women who literally don't inspire male lust.

I think many women are frankly delusional about men being attracted to them or about their own attractiveness/looks.
You are even more delusional to think that if you are over 35 that men will sexually swarm you.
I guess only the culture that promotes the unattractive can actually convince women into something that has no basis in biological reality.
Yes, I am a woman.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

No one cares about humiliating you or wielding any power over you. Unless you are a daughter of a billionaire you are simply insignificant. No one will spend their time and energy to wield anything over you because you simply don't matter.
And you will be even more insignificant when AI takes over. Get out of the false narrative, if you are capable of it.

Here's a study showing that female-initiated disruption of a male hierarchy incites hostile behavior from poor performing males towards females. The study was done anonymously with on-line gamers. Poorly performing males stand to lose status and as a result are hostile toward a female teammates.

http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0131613

I am not the PP, but I will chime and ask, why do you think that is?

It's because women, often inadvertently, use their sexual power to get perks in society.

The solution is for high status men to be disciplined about showering attractive females with any kind of attention that is not 100% based on their performance and non-sexual contribution to the group. That is the only way for other lower status or even medium status men not to be rightly annoyed by sexual-power wielding females.

I am a woman, by the way. And I don't think that women manipulatively use their sexual power in many cases. I blame the retarded men (Harvey Weinstein types) who make everything awkward for everyone by pandering to attractive women to either try to get laid or simply for an ego boost.