New Year Eve's Coordinated Sexual Assault Attacks in Cologne

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This was difficult not to foresee. Especially for Germany with Berlin looking pretty much like Istanbul these days. Stop the pity party, they practically begged for it. I don't mean the victims, I mean the fucking politicians.

Yup

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this under "Political Discussion?"

Why not?

What's political about these crimes? It belongs in Off Topic.

Because it is a huge political issue in Europe how to deal with an influx of hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants mixed with as many if not more war refugees. If you do not realize that, you should widen your horizon when you read the news

+1. "Off topic"?! It's amazing how obtuse people will pretend to be when the news isn't what they want to hear.

[Anonymous]

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And what were the German men doing while their women were being assaulted ... rallying round the bar for another mug of Dortmunder Union?

Sad to think that this was likely the mindset of the perpetrators; that women who dare to be out without male family escort "had it coming" to them.

If you read the articles the German men that were out with their families were outnumbered and helpless as they saw their women family members being groped. I read comments from male posters in forums saying that scenario would be a nightmare to them. What do you expect German men to do, nobody expected this. Come out with guns and blow these animals away? No one was expecting his. As for the poster who said American men would do the same thing with groping that is bs, the gulf between the values American men have vs these animals are like night and day. I walk down the streets of the us in large crowds feeling safe. No gangs of American men groped tourists in Times Square. So stop your cultural bs.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And what were the German men doing while their women were being assaulted ... rallying round the bar for another mug of Dortmunder Union?

Sad to think that this was likely the mindset of the perpetrators; that women who dare to be out without male family escort "had it coming" to them.

If you read the articles the German men that were out with their families were outnumbered and helpless as they saw their women family members being groped. I read comments from male posters in forums saying that scenario would be a nightmare to them. What do you expect German men to do, nobody expected this. Come out with guns and blow these animals away? No one was expecting his. As for the poster who said American men would do the same thing with groping that is bs, the gulf between the values American men have vs these animals are like night and day. I walk down the streets of the us in large crowds feeling safe. No gangs of American men groped tourists in Times Square. So stop your cultural bs.

Apparently this has vanished down the memory hole:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tailhook_scandal

"The Tailhook scandal was a series of incidents where more than 100 U.S. Navy and United States Marine Corps aviation officers were alleged to have sexually assaulted 83 women and 7 men, or otherwise engaged in "improper and indecent" conduct at the Las Vegas Hilton in Las Vegas, Nevada"

[Anonymous]

^^^Look nobody got killed or permanently injured.

Me thinks the ladies doth protest too much.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:^^^Look nobody got killed or permanently injured.

Me thinks the ladies doth protest too much.

Says someone who only sees dark people on TV lol:

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The reports say that per the police, and what they have gathered so far, the men are North African from at least three different countries, but nobody from Syria, Iraq, or Afghanistan. No refugees, and not recent immigrants.
Per the police there are many asylum seekers among them, some already known to police, and they have been in the country for a longer time.
(Of course, one has to ask, why asylum seekers "known to the police" are still in the country!!!

The women were not merely touched inappropriately (as if that is not horrible enough) and robbed- the reports say that many are black and blue "on their breasts and behinds" - so this is a very physical, very brutal assault. And of course, there is that one report of rape as well.
Also, the police seems to be convinced that this was somehow organized.

At the same time, there were reportedly 150 police officers at and around the train station - it happened right under their noses - not good for the police department - or the population.

Isis

One article said a police woman was one of the people sexually assaulted.

These people do not have values that are compatible to a civilized society.

Who are "these people?"

The 500-1000 men who participated in the organized activity.

We'll, that's why we have jails and deportation, right?

Deport them where? Who wants these people?

[Anonymous]

Apparently the German officials tried to keep this crime quiet, but social media forced them to come forward.

[Anonymous]

Apparently this has vanished down the memory hole:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tailhook_scandal

"The Tailhook scandal was a series of incidents where more than 100 U.S. Navy and United States Marine Corps aviation officers were alleged to have sexually assaulted 83 women and 7 men, or otherwise engaged in "improper and indecent" conduct at the Las Vegas Hilton in Las Vegas, Nevada"

Tailhook was inexcusable. This is not the same thing. First, this was in Vegas and occurred among people who knew each other and were partying and drinking together. There are conflicting stories, but, for sure, wrongdoing occurred. People were punished--because they knew who the people were. Some were "protected" and that was wrong and there were lots of reports about this and action was taken to stop it from occurring again. (There are some reports that it did not stop the activity.) This is just not the same thing.

The incidents being reported in Cologne and other German cities are quite different. It was totally unexpected and involved strangers. It also appears to be massive.

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

And what were the German men doing while their women were being assaulted ... rallying round the bar for another mug of Dortmunder Union?

Sad to think that this was likely the mindset of the perpetrators; that women who dare to be out without male family escort "had it coming" to them.

If you read the articles the German men that were out with their families were outnumbered and helpless as they saw their women family members being groped. I read comments from male posters in forums saying that scenario would be a nightmare to them. What do you expect German men to do, nobody expected this. Come out with guns and blow these animals away? No one was expecting his. As for the poster who said American men would do the same thing with groping that is bs, the gulf between the values American men have vs these animals are like night and day. I walk down the streets of the us in large crowds feeling safe. No gangs of American men groped tourists in Times Square. So stop your cultural bs.

Apparently this has vanished down the memory hole:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tailhook_scandal

"The Tailhook scandal was a series of incidents where more than 100 U.S. Navy and United States Marine Corps aviation officers were alleged to have sexually assaulted 83 women and 7 men, or otherwise engaged in "improper and indecent" conduct at the Las Vegas Hilton in Las Vegas, Nevada"

It was a scandal resulting in widespread discipline, discharge, and changes in culture. How is that comparable? So far, the German police have "no leads" on the men involved.

[Anonymous]

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Deport them where? Who wants these people?

Well, they all come from somewhere, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This was difficult not to foresee. Especially for Germany with Berlin looking pretty much like Istanbul these days. Stop the pity party, they practically begged for it. I don't mean the victims, I mean the fucking politicians.

Yup

+1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Deport them where? Who wants these people?

Well, they all come from somewhere, right?

There will be no deportations. Less than a fraction of one percent, if at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are criminal suits being filed? Are hey trying to locate these men? That's the best thing that can happen.

As horrible as it is I have a feeling many American men would act the same if allowed. Men tend to be violent by nature and it comes out when they are in large groups. So I'm not surprised, especially when you have men from a part of the world where women are second class citizens.

Nice try.

They wouldn't.

Some would, but most would not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Apparently this has vanished down the memory hole:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tailhook_scandal

"The Tailhook scandal was a series of incidents where more than 100 U.S. Navy and United States Marine Corps aviation officers were alleged to have sexually assaulted 83 women and 7 men, or otherwise engaged in "improper and indecent" conduct at the Las Vegas Hilton in Las Vegas, Nevada"

Tailhook was inexcusable. This is not the same thing. First, this was in Vegas and occurred among people who knew each other and were partying and drinking together. There are conflicting stories, but, for sure, wrongdoing occurred. People were punished--because they knew who the people were. Some were "protected" and that was wrong and there were lots of reports about this and action was taken to stop it from occurring again. (There are some reports that it did not stop the activity.) This is just not the same thing.

The incidents being reported in Cologne and other German cities are quite different. It was totally unexpected and involved strangers. It also appears to be massive.

Exactly!

Jeff, why is your first post on this thread to chime in with "look at the Americans who did this too years ago?"

I agree Tailhook was agregious, but it is very different than what happened to those innocent people, women, daughters, mothers, wives, husbands, boyfriends and fathers.

What if this was your wife with your sons and you watching helpless to do anything?

I would have hoped your first post would have been to post support for the women and outrage for the deviants who think this is acceptable behavior.

Everything they did runs in complete opposition to what is supposed to be liberal, civilized values. Yet your first post is about Tailhook?

I am disappointed.