Trump says he'll revoke home rule if JLG is elected

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so closeted right wing and racist. But guess what? You’re in the minority in DC. Thank God for that.

Right?? It's shocking. Free DC.

I would be shocked if most of the racist posts about DC are from people who live in DC. Extreme prejudice against DC by suburbanites in this region and neighboring regions has been a defining characteristic of the dynamic of our area since white flight happened.

Well they are coming back.

Right. And I'm part of that and am all for it. My point is that the dynamics of how much people from the suburbs hate DC can't be understood without the overlay of the history of white flight.

When whites leave, it’s “white flight”. When whites return, it’s gentrification. White people can’t do anything right according to you loonies.

My post is not a moral judgment of white flight. My point is that iht starts a dynamic where people who have left have to continually justify it, for generations. There's constant talk of how crazy DC is whenever the topic comes up. It's way over the top. And lots of those types of people are speaking up in this very thread.

For example, when I was a kid, in 1985 in North Arlington, my neighbors who lived half a mile from the DC border never went into the city because it was "so crazy." I've lived in DC since I moved back to the area in 2000, and I can't count the number of people I've talked to from the suburbs who think my very safe neighborhood (if you care about facts and statistics) must be extremely dangerous just because it's in the city. If you're involved in discussion about the perception of this city on a board like this you should acknowledge the pervasive assumption by people in the suburbs that most parts of the District are dangerous, chaotic and not even worth considering living in. That's most of who is speaking up in these conversations. Please don't blame those of us who have built lives here for their constant racist statements.

That “pervasive assumption” is based on facts. Until the literal military was stationed there DC’s murder rate was extremely high compared to other cities.

New York had 391 murders in 2023 and 377 in 2024. DC had 274 and 187 (npi) murders in these two years, respectively. NYC has 8.6 million people, DC has 690,000.

When your city has 117 less murders than another city but 12.4x more people, like in 2023, that is a problem. If DC had NYC’s population and the same murder rate it would have recorded 3,400 murders in 2023. So you’ll have to excuse people who think that a city with that type of murder rate is dangerous.

Oh, just stop already. The murder rate in DC was already declining precipitously before the National Guard arrived. And the only objective study that has come out so far has concluded that the presence of the National Guard has had zero impact on violent crime in the city.

Way to miss the point, which is that DC in incredibly dangerous and would have had 3,400 murders in 2023 if it was as big as NYC.

About the National Guard, what factors would you cite for DC being on track for the lowest murder rate in recorded history this year?

DC's drop is part of a broader national trend. End of story. Nothing to do with the Guard.

So DC having exactly 100 murders from January 1, 2025 until the NG showed up in early August and then only having 27 murders from when they showed up until the end of 2025 was just a magical coincidence? Is the city being on track to have the lowest murder rate in recorded history this year just a magical coincidence as well?

If it wasn’t the NG that caused it to drop what was it? The city government throwing money at additional programs when the city has a $1 billion budget deficit?

Please enlighten us as to what you think caused this historic drop in murders that just happened to coincide exactly with the appearance of the NG. You just stating out of hand that the NG wasn’t a factor doesn’t make it so.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so closeted right wing and racist. But guess what? You’re in the minority in DC. Thank God for that.

Right?? It's shocking. Free DC.

I would be shocked if most of the racist posts about DC are from people who live in DC. Extreme prejudice against DC by suburbanites in this region and neighboring regions has been a defining characteristic of the dynamic of our area since white flight happened.

Well they are coming back.

Right. And I'm part of that and am all for it. My point is that the dynamics of how much people from the suburbs hate DC can't be understood without the overlay of the history of white flight.

When whites leave, it’s “white flight”. When whites return, it’s gentrification. White people can’t do anything right according to you loonies.

My post is not a moral judgment of white flight. My point is that iht starts a dynamic where people who have left have to continually justify it, for generations. There's constant talk of how crazy DC is whenever the topic comes up. It's way over the top. And lots of those types of people are speaking up in this very thread.

For example, when I was a kid, in 1985 in North Arlington, my neighbors who lived half a mile from the DC border never went into the city because it was "so crazy." I've lived in DC since I moved back to the area in 2000, and I can't count the number of people I've talked to from the suburbs who think my very safe neighborhood (if you care about facts and statistics) must be extremely dangerous just because it's in the city. If you're involved in discussion about the perception of this city on a board like this you should acknowledge the pervasive assumption by people in the suburbs that most parts of the District are dangerous, chaotic and not even worth considering living in. That's most of who is speaking up in these conversations. Please don't blame those of us who have built lives here for their constant racist statements.

That “pervasive assumption” is based on facts. Until the literal military was stationed there DC’s murder rate was extremely high compared to other cities.

New York had 391 murders in 2023 and 377 in 2024. DC had 274 and 187 (npi) murders in these two years, respectively. NYC has 8.6 million people, DC has 690,000.

When your city has 117 less murders than another city but 12.4x more people, like in 2023, that is a problem. If DC had NYC’s population and the same murder rate it would have recorded 3,400 murders in 2023. So you’ll have to excuse people who think that a city with that type of murder rate is dangerous.

Oh, just stop already. The murder rate in DC was already declining precipitously before the National Guard arrived. And the only objective study that has come out so far has concluded that the presence of the National Guard has had zero impact on violent crime in the city.

Way to miss the point, which is that DC in incredibly dangerous and would have had 3,400 murders in 2023 if it was as big as NYC.

About the National Guard, what factors would you cite for DC being on track for the lowest murder rate in recorded history this year?

DC's drop is part of a broader national trend. End of story. Nothing to do with the Guard.

So DC having exactly 100 murders from January 1, 2025 until the NG showed up in early August and then only having 27 murders from when they showed up until the end of 2025 was just a magical coincidence? Is the city being on track to have the lowest murder rate in recorded history this year just a magical coincidence as well?

If it wasn’t the NG that caused it to drop what was it? The city government throwing money at additional programs when the city has a $1 billion budget deficit?

Please enlighten us as to what you think caused this historic drop in murders that just happened to coincide exactly with the appearance of the NG. You just stating out of hand that the NG wasn’t a factor doesn’t make it so.

Over the same period, violent crime has fallen in many cities - by even greater percentages - in cities that did not get NG deployments. Moreover, the recent decline in violent crime in DC continues a trend that not only began before the NG were deployed, but even before Trump took office. Exactly why crime is falling so sharply in some many cities is something of a mystery. If, by chance, your interest in this topic extends beyond partisan point-scoring, you can point your browser here to learn more: https://jasher.substack.com/

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so closeted right wing and racist. But guess what? You’re in the minority in DC. Thank God for that.

Right?? It's shocking. Free DC.

I would be shocked if most of the racist posts about DC are from people who live in DC. Extreme prejudice against DC by suburbanites in this region and neighboring regions has been a defining characteristic of the dynamic of our area since white flight happened.

Well they are coming back.

Right. And I'm part of that and am all for it. My point is that the dynamics of how much people from the suburbs hate DC can't be understood without the overlay of the history of white flight.

When whites leave, it’s “white flight”. When whites return, it’s gentrification. White people can’t do anything right according to you loonies.

My post is not a moral judgment of white flight. My point is that iht starts a dynamic where people who have left have to continually justify it, for generations. There's constant talk of how crazy DC is whenever the topic comes up. It's way over the top. And lots of those types of people are speaking up in this very thread.

For example, when I was a kid, in 1985 in North Arlington, my neighbors who lived half a mile from the DC border never went into the city because it was "so crazy." I've lived in DC since I moved back to the area in 2000, and I can't count the number of people I've talked to from the suburbs who think my very safe neighborhood (if you care about facts and statistics) must be extremely dangerous just because it's in the city. If you're involved in discussion about the perception of this city on a board like this you should acknowledge the pervasive assumption by people in the suburbs that most parts of the District are dangerous, chaotic and not even worth considering living in. That's most of who is speaking up in these conversations. Please don't blame those of us who have built lives here for their constant racist statements.

That “pervasive assumption” is based on facts. Until the literal military was stationed there DC’s murder rate was extremely high compared to other cities.

New York had 391 murders in 2023 and 377 in 2024. DC had 274 and 187 (npi) murders in these two years, respectively. NYC has 8.6 million people, DC has 690,000.

When your city has 117 less murders than another city but 12.4x more people, like in 2023, that is a problem. If DC had NYC’s population and the same murder rate it would have recorded 3,400 murders in 2023. So you’ll have to excuse people who think that a city with that type of murder rate is dangerous.

Oh, just stop already. The murder rate in DC was already declining precipitously before the National Guard arrived. And the only objective study that has come out so far has concluded that the presence of the National Guard has had zero impact on violent crime in the city.

Way to miss the point, which is that DC in incredibly dangerous and would have had 3,400 murders in 2023 if it was as big as NYC.

About the National Guard, what factors would you cite for DC being on track for the lowest murder rate in recorded history this year?

DC's drop is part of a broader national trend. End of story. Nothing to do with the Guard.

So DC having exactly 100 murders from January 1, 2025 until the NG showed up in early August and then only having 27 murders from when they showed up until the end of 2025 was just a magical coincidence? Is the city being on track to have the lowest murder rate in recorded history this year just a magical coincidence as well?

If it wasn’t the NG that caused it to drop what was it? The city government throwing money at additional programs when the city has a $1 billion budget deficit?

Please enlighten us as to what you think caused this historic drop in murders that just happened to coincide exactly with the appearance of the NG. You just stating out of hand that the NG wasn’t a factor doesn’t make it so.

Over the same period, violent crime has fallen in many cities - by even greater percentages - in cities that did not get NG deployments. Moreover, the recent decline in violent crime in DC continues a trend that not only began before the NG were deployed, but even before Trump took office. Exactly why crime is falling so sharply in some many cities is something of a mystery. If, by chance, your interest in this topic extends beyond partisan point-scoring, you can point your browser here to learn more: https://jasher.substack.com/

Wow! So crime just magically rolled back in the whole country on August 12, 2025, when the NG showed up and took DC from having 100 murders from 1/1/2025 to 8/11/2025 to 127 total murders for the year in 2025?

That is an amazing coincidence!! That really should be studied. Thanks for the reading. I’m sure 3,000+ soldiers being stationed in DC didn’t lead to one less murder since they came and the article you posted will underscore this indisputable fact. Thanks for enlightening me!

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so closeted right wing and racist. But guess what? You’re in the minority in DC. Thank God for that.

Right?? It's shocking. Free DC.

I would be shocked if most of the racist posts about DC are from people who live in DC. Extreme prejudice against DC by suburbanites in this region and neighboring regions has been a defining characteristic of the dynamic of our area since white flight happened.

Well they are coming back.

Right. And I'm part of that and am all for it. My point is that the dynamics of how much people from the suburbs hate DC can't be understood without the overlay of the history of white flight.

When whites leave, it’s “white flight”. When whites return, it’s gentrification. White people can’t do anything right according to you loonies.

My post is not a moral judgment of white flight. My point is that iht starts a dynamic where people who have left have to continually justify it, for generations. There's constant talk of how crazy DC is whenever the topic comes up. It's way over the top. And lots of those types of people are speaking up in this very thread.

For example, when I was a kid, in 1985 in North Arlington, my neighbors who lived half a mile from the DC border never went into the city because it was "so crazy." I've lived in DC since I moved back to the area in 2000, and I can't count the number of people I've talked to from the suburbs who think my very safe neighborhood (if you care about facts and statistics) must be extremely dangerous just because it's in the city. If you're involved in discussion about the perception of this city on a board like this you should acknowledge the pervasive assumption by people in the suburbs that most parts of the District are dangerous, chaotic and not even worth considering living in. That's most of who is speaking up in these conversations. Please don't blame those of us who have built lives here for their constant racist statements.

That “pervasive assumption” is based on facts. Until the literal military was stationed there DC’s murder rate was extremely high compared to other cities.

New York had 391 murders in 2023 and 377 in 2024. DC had 274 and 187 (npi) murders in these two years, respectively. NYC has 8.6 million people, DC has 690,000.

When your city has 117 less murders than another city but 12.4x more people, like in 2023, that is a problem. If DC had NYC’s population and the same murder rate it would have recorded 3,400 murders in 2023. So you’ll have to excuse people who think that a city with that type of murder rate is dangerous.

Oh, just stop already. The murder rate in DC was already declining precipitously before the National Guard arrived. And the only objective study that has come out so far has concluded that the presence of the National Guard has had zero impact on violent crime in the city.

Way to miss the point, which is that DC in incredibly dangerous and would have had 3,400 murders in 2023 if it was as big as NYC.

About the National Guard, what factors would you cite for DC being on track for the lowest murder rate in recorded history this year?

DC's drop is part of a broader national trend. End of story. Nothing to do with the Guard.

So DC having exactly 100 murders from January 1, 2025 until the NG showed up in early August and then only having 27 murders from when they showed up until the end of 2025 was just a magical coincidence? Is the city being on track to have the lowest murder rate in recorded history this year just a magical coincidence as well?

If it wasn’t the NG that caused it to drop what was it? The city government throwing money at additional programs when the city has a $1 billion budget deficit?

Please enlighten us as to what you think caused this historic drop in murders that just happened to coincide exactly with the appearance of the NG. You just stating out of hand that the NG wasn’t a factor doesn’t make it so.

Over the same period, violent crime has fallen in many cities - by even greater percentages - in cities that did not get NG deployments. Moreover, the recent decline in violent crime in DC continues a trend that not only began before the NG were deployed, but even before Trump took office. Exactly why crime is falling so sharply in some many cities is something of a mystery. If, by chance, your interest in this topic extends beyond partisan point-scoring, you can point your browser here to learn more: https://jasher.substack.com/

Wow! So crime just magically rolled back in the whole country on August 12, 2025, when the NG showed up and took DC from having 100 murders from 1/1/2025 to 8/11/2025 to 127 total murders for the year in 2025?

That is an amazing coincidence!! That really should be studied. Thanks for the reading. I’m sure 3,000+ soldiers being stationed in DC didn’t lead to one less murder since they came and the article you posted will underscore this indisputable fact. Thanks for enlightening me!

Keep in mind you're dealing with one of the people that probably kept claiming crime wasn't rising a few years back.

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Anyone who wants to ground their opinions about DC crime in empirical analysis rather than partisan horseshit could do worse than read this in its entirety: https://www.niskanencenter.org/washington-dc-crime-decline-and-its-lessons-for-american-policing/#efficient-policing-vs-the-national-guard-a-cost-effectiveness-comparison

If there are any parts of you don’t understand, feel free to ask.

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Anonymous wrote:DCUM is so closeted right wing and racist. But guess what? You’re in the minority in DC. Thank God for that.

Right?? It's shocking. Free DC.

I would be shocked if most of the racist posts about DC are from people who live in DC. Extreme prejudice against DC by suburbanites in this region and neighboring regions has been a defining characteristic of the dynamic of our area since white flight happened.

Well they are coming back.

Right. And I'm part of that and am all for it. My point is that the dynamics of how much people from the suburbs hate DC can't be understood without the overlay of the history of white flight.

When whites leave, it’s “white flight”. When whites return, it’s gentrification. White people can’t do anything right according to you loonies.

My post is not a moral judgment of white flight. My point is that iht starts a dynamic where people who have left have to continually justify it, for generations. There's constant talk of how crazy DC is whenever the topic comes up. It's way over the top. And lots of those types of people are speaking up in this very thread.

For example, when I was a kid, in 1985 in North Arlington, my neighbors who lived half a mile from the DC border never went into the city because it was "so crazy." I've lived in DC since I moved back to the area in 2000, and I can't count the number of people I've talked to from the suburbs who think my very safe neighborhood (if you care about facts and statistics) must be extremely dangerous just because it's in the city. If you're involved in discussion about the perception of this city on a board like this you should acknowledge the pervasive assumption by people in the suburbs that most parts of the District are dangerous, chaotic and not even worth considering living in. That's most of who is speaking up in these conversations. Please don't blame those of us who have built lives here for their constant racist statements.

That “pervasive assumption” is based on facts. Until the literal military was stationed there DC’s murder rate was extremely high compared to other cities.

New York had 391 murders in 2023 and 377 in 2024. DC had 274 and 187 (npi) murders in these two years, respectively. NYC has 8.6 million people, DC has 690,000.

When your city has 117 less murders than another city but 12.4x more people, like in 2023, that is a problem. If DC had NYC’s population and the same murder rate it would have recorded 3,400 murders in 2023. So you’ll have to excuse people who think that a city with that type of murder rate is dangerous.

Oh, just stop already. The murder rate in DC was already declining precipitously before the National Guard arrived. And the only objective study that has come out so far has concluded that the presence of the National Guard has had zero impact on violent crime in the city.

Way to miss the point, which is that DC in incredibly dangerous and would have had 3,400 murders in 2023 if it was as big as NYC.

About the National Guard, what factors would you cite for DC being on track for the lowest murder rate in recorded history this year?

DC's drop is part of a broader national trend. End of story. Nothing to do with the Guard.

So DC having exactly 100 murders from January 1, 2025 until the NG showed up in early August and then only having 27 murders from when they showed up until the end of 2025 was just a magical coincidence? Is the city being on track to have the lowest murder rate in recorded history this year just a magical coincidence as well?

If it wasn’t the NG that caused it to drop what was it? The city government throwing money at additional programs when the city has a $1 billion budget deficit?

Please enlighten us as to what you think caused this historic drop in murders that just happened to coincide exactly with the appearance of the NG. You just stating out of hand that the NG wasn’t a factor doesn’t make it so.

Over the same period, violent crime has fallen in many cities - by even greater percentages - in cities that did not get NG deployments. Moreover, the recent decline in violent crime in DC continues a trend that not only began before the NG were deployed, but even before Trump took office. Exactly why crime is falling so sharply in some many cities is something of a mystery. If, by chance, your interest in this topic extends beyond partisan point-scoring, you can point your browser here to learn more: https://jasher.substack.com/

Wow! So crime just magically rolled back in the whole country on August 12, 2025, when the NG showed up and took DC from having 100 murders from 1/1/2025 to 8/11/2025 to 127 total murders for the year in 2025?

That is an amazing coincidence!! That really should be studied. Thanks for the reading. I’m sure 3,000+ soldiers being stationed in DC didn’t lead to one less murder since they came and the article you posted will underscore this indisputable fact. Thanks for enlightening me!

Keep in mind you're dealing with one of the people that probably kept claiming crime wasn't rising a few years back.

Who claimed that? Source your statements.

I’ll wait.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who wants to ground their opinions about DC crime in empirical analysis rather than partisan horseshit could do worse than read this in its entirety: https://www.niskanencenter.org/washington-dc-crime-decline-and-its-lessons-for-american-policing/#efficient-policing-vs-the-national-guard-a-cost-effectiveness-comparison

If there are any parts of you don’t understand, feel free to ask.

Yeah, it doesn’t say that there presence had no affect on crime, just that they aren’t as cost effective as employing more MPD officers. It’s funny how liberals on here are libertarians concerned about government largesse only when it concerns saving people in DC from getting murdered.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who wants to ground their opinions about DC crime in empirical analysis rather than partisan horseshit could do worse than read this in its entirety: https://www.niskanencenter.org/washington-dc-crime-decline-and-its-lessons-for-american-policing/#efficient-policing-vs-the-national-guard-a-cost-effectiveness-comparison

If there are any parts of you don’t understand, feel free to ask.

Yeah, it doesn’t say that there presence had no affect on crime, just that they aren’t as cost effective as employing more MPD officers. It’s funny how liberals on here are libertarians concerned about government largesse only when it concerns saving people in DC from getting murdered.

Is reading really that hard?

We also examine the August 2025 National Guard deployment, which added roughly 2,000 uniformed personnel to D.C.’s streets virtually overnight, and find that it produced a real but narrow improvement: a 24 percent reduction in opportunistic property crime in the first six months, with no measurable effect on violent crime. A cost-benefit comparison shows that an equivalent investment in targeted, data-driven MPD deployment might produce social benefits an order of magnitude larger.

Yes, it appears that the NG presence induced a reduction in property crime, but I believe you were specifically concerned with murders.

So, to answer your earlier question (“So DC having exactly 100 murders from January 1, 2025 until the NG showed up in early August and then only having 27 murders from when they showed up until the end of 2025 was just a magical coincidence?”), yes, it appears so.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who wants to ground their opinions about DC crime in empirical analysis rather than partisan horseshit could do worse than read this in its entirety: https://www.niskanencenter.org/washington-dc-crime-decline-and-its-lessons-for-american-policing/#efficient-policing-vs-the-national-guard-a-cost-effectiveness-comparison

If there are any parts of you don’t understand, feel free to ask.

Yeah, it doesn’t say that there presence had no affect on crime, just that they aren’t as cost effective as employing more MPD officers. It’s funny how liberals on here are libertarians concerned about government largesse only when it concerns saving people in DC from getting murdered.

Is reading really that hard?

We also examine the August 2025 National Guard deployment, which added roughly 2,000 uniformed personnel to D.C.’s streets virtually overnight, and find that it produced a real but narrow improvement: a 24 percent reduction in opportunistic property crime in the first six months, with no measurable effect on violent crime. A cost-benefit comparison shows that an equivalent investment in targeted, data-driven MPD deployment might produce social benefits an order of magnitude larger.

Yes, it appears that the NG presence induced a reduction in property crime, but I believe you were specifically concerned with murders.

So, to answer your earlier question (“So DC having exactly 100 murders from January 1, 2025 until the NG showed up in early August and then only having 27 murders from when they showed up until the end of 2025 was just a magical coincidence?”), yes, it appears so.

There is absolutely no way to definitively prove the point that’s made in the article because to do so would require being able to enter some alternate dimension where from August 12, 2025, the NG wasn’t there and there were the same amount of murders (27) from then until the end of the year. You know that right?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who wants to ground their opinions about DC crime in empirical analysis rather than partisan horseshit could do worse than read this in its entirety: https://www.niskanencenter.org/washington-dc-crime-decline-and-its-lessons-for-american-policing/#efficient-policing-vs-the-national-guard-a-cost-effectiveness-comparison

If there are any parts of you don’t understand, feel free to ask.

Yeah, it doesn’t say that there presence had no affect on crime, just that they aren’t as cost effective as employing more MPD officers. It’s funny how liberals on here are libertarians concerned about government largesse only when it concerns saving people in DC from getting murdered.

Is reading really that hard?

We also examine the August 2025 National Guard deployment, which added roughly 2,000 uniformed personnel to D.C.’s streets virtually overnight, and find that it produced a real but narrow improvement: a 24 percent reduction in opportunistic property crime in the first six months, with no measurable effect on violent crime. A cost-benefit comparison shows that an equivalent investment in targeted, data-driven MPD deployment might produce social benefits an order of magnitude larger.

Yes, it appears that the NG presence induced a reduction in property crime, but I believe you were specifically concerned with murders.

So, to answer your earlier question (“So DC having exactly 100 murders from January 1, 2025 until the NG showed up in early August and then only having 27 murders from when they showed up until the end of 2025 was just a magical coincidence?”), yes, it appears so.

There is absolutely no way to definitively prove the point that’s made in the article because to do so would require being able to enter some alternate dimension where from August 12, 2025, the NG wasn’t there and there were the same amount of murders (27) from then until the end of the year. You know that right?

I remember a time when those who were completely ignorant of a particular topic would have the common decency not to represent that as a qualification.

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Does anyone else want to see Trump try to do this? And finally we get fired up and take to the streets and fight this. DC has been under siege for too long

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else want to see Trump try to do this? And finally we get fired up and take to the streets and fight this. DC has been under siege for too long

DC has no meaningful representation in Congress. If you take to the streets and fight this, what exactly is your plan?

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who wants to ground their opinions about DC crime in empirical analysis rather than partisan horseshit could do worse than read this in its entirety: https://www.niskanencenter.org/washington-dc-crime-decline-and-its-lessons-for-american-policing/#efficient-policing-vs-the-national-guard-a-cost-effectiveness-comparison

If there are any parts of you don’t understand, feel free to ask.

Yeah, it doesn’t say that there presence had no affect on crime, just that they aren’t as cost effective as employing more MPD officers. It’s funny how liberals on here are libertarians concerned about government largesse only when it concerns saving people in DC from getting murdered.

Is reading really that hard?

We also examine the August 2025 National Guard deployment, which added roughly 2,000 uniformed personnel to D.C.’s streets virtually overnight, and find that it produced a real but narrow improvement: a 24 percent reduction in opportunistic property crime in the first six months, with no measurable effect on violent crime. A cost-benefit comparison shows that an equivalent investment in targeted, data-driven MPD deployment might produce social benefits an order of magnitude larger.

Yes, it appears that the NG presence induced a reduction in property crime, but I believe you were specifically concerned with murders.

So, to answer your earlier question (“So DC having exactly 100 murders from January 1, 2025 until the NG showed up in early August and then only having 27 murders from when they showed up until the end of 2025 was just a magical coincidence?”), yes, it appears so.

There is absolutely no way to definitively prove the point that’s made in the article because to do so would require being able to enter some alternate dimension where from August 12, 2025, the NG wasn’t there and there were the same amount of murders (27) from then until the end of the year. You know that right?

I remember a time when those who were completely ignorant of a particular topic would have the common decency not to represent that as a qualification.

Please cite where the study talks specifically about murder stats and does not group it in a “Other (violent crime)”category (see Figure 7), which in and of itself seems troubling that they’re trying to minimize the murder stats by hiding them in this larger category. Murder stats, as anyone who knows crime reporting can tell you, is the biggest indicator of crime because these figures cannot be fudged by politically motivated actors in law enforcement. It is extremely odd that the authors don’t even talk about the murder rate specifically, and it leads me to believe they’re doing so to further a narrative and not actually look into this issue from a nonpartisan, ideologically neutral perspective.

Also, the authors state that they can trust MPD data about other violent crimes that aren’t reported to the FBI, like murder stats, which is laughable because the MPD has around a dozen high ranking officers facing indictments for forging crime data to make it seem like the overall crime rate was lower in the past.

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Good.

People complain about Trump but DC erected a statue to Marion Barry, Jr.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone who wants to ground their opinions about DC crime in empirical analysis rather than partisan horseshit could do worse than read this in its entirety: https://www.niskanencenter.org/washington-dc-crime-decline-and-its-lessons-for-american-policing/#efficient-policing-vs-the-national-guard-a-cost-effectiveness-comparison

If there are any parts of you don’t understand, feel free to ask.

Yeah, it doesn’t say that there presence had no affect on crime, just that they aren’t as cost effective as employing more MPD officers. It’s funny how liberals on here are libertarians concerned about government largesse only when it concerns saving people in DC from getting murdered.

Is reading really that hard?

We also examine the August 2025 National Guard deployment, which added roughly 2,000 uniformed personnel to D.C.’s streets virtually overnight, and find that it produced a real but narrow improvement: a 24 percent reduction in opportunistic property crime in the first six months, with no measurable effect on violent crime. A cost-benefit comparison shows that an equivalent investment in targeted, data-driven MPD deployment might produce social benefits an order of magnitude larger.

Yes, it appears that the NG presence induced a reduction in property crime, but I believe you were specifically concerned with murders.

So, to answer your earlier question (“So DC having exactly 100 murders from January 1, 2025 until the NG showed up in early August and then only having 27 murders from when they showed up until the end of 2025 was just a magical coincidence?”), yes, it appears so.

There is absolutely no way to definitively prove the point that’s made in the article because to do so would require being able to enter some alternate dimension where from August 12, 2025, the NG wasn’t there and there were the same amount of murders (27) from then until the end of the year. You know that right?

I remember a time when those who were completely ignorant of a particular topic would have the common decency not to represent that as a qualification.

Please cite where the study talks specifically about murder stats and does not group it in a “Other (violent crime)”category (see Figure 7), which in and of itself seems troubling that they’re trying to minimize the murder stats by hiding them in this larger category. Murder stats, as anyone who knows crime reporting can tell you, is the biggest indicator of crime because these figures cannot be fudged by politically motivated actors in law enforcement. It is extremely odd that the authors don’t even talk about the murder rate specifically, and it leads me to believe they’re doing so to further a narrative and not actually look into this issue from a nonpartisan, ideologically neutral perspective.

Also, the authors state that they can trust MPD data about other violent crimes that aren’t reported to the FBI, like murder stats, which is laughable because the MPD has around a dozen high ranking officers facing indictments for forging crime data to make it seem like the overall crime rate was lower in the past.

Go read up on the No True Scotsman fallacy and get back to us when you've realized that there is no information whatsoever that could ever convince yourself that you were wrong.