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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Anyone who wants to ground their opinions about DC crime in empirical analysis rather than partisan horseshit could do worse than read this in its entirety: https://www.niskanencenter.org/washington-dc-crime-decline-and-its-lessons-for-american-policing/#efficient-policing-vs-the-national-guard-a-cost-effectiveness-comparison

If there are any parts of you don’t understand, feel free to ask.[/quote]

Yeah, it doesn’t say that there presence had no affect on crime, just that they aren’t as cost effective as employing more MPD officers. It’s funny how liberals on here are libertarians concerned about government largesse only when it concerns saving people in DC from getting murdered. [/quote]

Is reading really that hard?

[quote]We also examine the August 2025 National Guard deployment, which added roughly 2,000 uniformed personnel to D.C.’s streets virtually overnight, and find that it produced a real but narrow improvement: a 24 percent reduction in opportunistic property crime in the first six months, with [b]no measurable effect on violent crime[/b]. A cost-benefit comparison shows that an equivalent investment in targeted, data-driven MPD deployment might produce social benefits an order of magnitude larger.[/quote]

Yes, it appears that the NG presence induced a reduction in property crime, but I believe you were specifically concerned with murders.

So, to answer your earlier question (“So DC having exactly 100 murders from January 1, 2025 until the NG showed up in early August and then only having 27 murders from when they showed up until the end of 2025 was just a magical coincidence?”), yes, it appears so.[/quote]

There is absolutely no way to definitively prove the point that’s made in the article because to do so would require being able to enter some alternate dimension where from August 12, 2025, the NG wasn’t there and there were the same amount of murders (27) from then until the end of the year. You know that right? [/quote]

I remember a time when those who were completely ignorant of a particular topic would have the common decency not to represent that as a qualification.[/quote]

Please cite where the study talks specifically about murder stats and does not group it in a “Other (violent crime)”category (see Figure 7), which in and of itself seems troubling that they’re trying to minimize the murder stats by hiding them in this larger category. Murder stats, as anyone who knows crime reporting can tell you, is the biggest indicator of crime because these figures cannot be fudged by politically motivated actors in law enforcement. It is extremely odd that the authors don’t even talk about the murder rate specifically, and it leads me to believe they’re doing so to further a narrative and not actually look into this issue from a nonpartisan, ideologically neutral perspective.

Also, the authors state that they can trust MPD data about other violent crimes that aren’t reported to the FBI, like murder stats, which is laughable because the MPD has around a dozen high ranking officers facing indictments for forging crime data to make it seem like the overall crime rate was lower in the past.[/quote]

Go read up on the No True Scotsman fallacy and get back to us when you've realized that there is no information whatsoever that could ever convince yourself that you were wrong.[/quote]

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