ECNL moving to school year part 2

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:8 pages in and the 60+ guy is back! This thread is going to the moon!

Im sorry you dont understand math.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not the end of the world but it still is not great for the average level player with an August birthday that won't get to play with either his SY, the team they have been with for years or the majority of the kids their BY. Not everyone is worried about college I'd sessions. I understand there has to be a cutoff but 8/1 was probably the worst choice

Agreed 9/1 was the better choice. 🫡

9/1+30/60 is even better.

You get the 9/1 cutoff but if players can prove their grade and were born 30 or 60 days before 9/1 they can play with that group.

This addresses players playing down and also gets rid of the edge case trapped players.

Yea I saw a the ECNL guys mention this at minute 3:25

https://youtu.be/lMbhMm4dmA0?si=1vXH7NKt_dri0t5J

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not the end of the world but it still is not great for the average level player with an August birthday that won't get to play with either his SY, the team they have been with for years or the majority of the kids their BY. Not everyone is worried about college I'd sessions. I understand there has to be a cutoff but 8/1 was probably the worst choice

Agreed 9/1 was the better choice. 🫡

9/1+30/60 is even better.

You get the 9/1 cutoff but if players can prove their grade and were born 30 or 60 days before 9/1 they can play with that group.

This addresses players playing down and also gets rid of the edge case trapped players.

Yea I saw a the ECNL guys mention this at minute 3:25

https://youtu.be/lMbhMm4dmA0?si=1vXH7NKt_dri0t5J

Finally! some people get it.

Leagues don't have to be 100% binary. There are options that can be implemented that address trapped players entirely even the edge case SY ones.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the end of the world but it still is not great for the average level player with an August birthday that won't get to play with either his SY, the team they have been with for years or the majority of the kids their BY. Not everyone is worried about college I'd sessions. I understand there has to be a cutoff but 8/1 was probably the worst choice

Agreed 9/1 was the better choice. 🫡

9/1+30/60 is even better.

You get the 9/1 cutoff but if players can prove their grade and were born 30 or 60 days before 9/1 they can play with that group.

This addresses players playing down and also gets rid of the edge case trapped players.

This wouldn't work. Not all kids have defined grades, schools don't really have uniform IDs for kids by grades in most districts and clubs can't police this. This exception idea seems like a poorly thought out coffee shop discussion from people wanting an edge for their kid that has no chance in the real world.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not the end of the world but it still is not great for the average level player with an August birthday that won't get to play with either his SY, the team they have been with for years or the majority of the kids their BY. Not everyone is worried about college I'd sessions. I understand there has to be a cutoff but 8/1 was probably the worst choice

Agreed 9/1 was the better choice. 🫡

9/1+30/60 is even better.

You get the 9/1 cutoff but if players can prove their grade and were born 30 or 60 days before 9/1 they can play with that group.

This addresses players playing down and also gets rid of the edge case trapped players.

Yea I saw a the ECNL guys mention this at minute 3:25

https://youtu.be/lMbhMm4dmA0?si=1vXH7NKt_dri0t5J

Finally! some people get it.

Leagues don't have to be 100% binary. There are options that can be implemented that address trapped players entirely even the edge case SY ones.

Pay attention. They aren't ECNL guys and don't mention allowing players to cheat and play down.

One person mentions having Sept play up a year if they are up a grade. It would be pointless if course because players can always play up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:8 pages in and the 60+ guy is back! This thread is going to the moon!

Please don’t encourage him. Maybe if we all pretend his posts don’t exist he’ll move on.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the end of the world but it still is not great for the average level player with an August birthday that won't get to play with either his SY, the team they have been with for years or the majority of the kids their BY. Not everyone is worried about college I'd sessions. I understand there has to be a cutoff but 8/1 was probably the worst choice

Agreed 9/1 was the better choice. 🫡

9/1+30/60 is even better.

You get the 9/1 cutoff but if players can prove their grade and were born 30 or 60 days before 9/1 they can play with that group.

This addresses players playing down and also gets rid of the edge case trapped players.

This wouldn't work. Not all kids have defined grades, schools don't really have uniform IDs for kids by grades in most districts and clubs can't police this. This exception idea seems like a poorly thought out coffee shop discussion from people wanting an edge for their kid that has no chance in the real world.

It exists and people are considering it.

You might have one commenter that just wants to try and win arguments.

Its the logical way to answer the trapped player question.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the end of the world but it still is not great for the average level player with an August birthday that won't get to play with either his SY, the team they have been with for years or the majority of the kids their BY. Not everyone is worried about college I'd sessions. I understand there has to be a cutoff but 8/1 was probably the worst choice

Agreed 9/1 was the better choice. 🫡

9/1+30/60 is even better.

You get the 9/1 cutoff but if players can prove their grade and were born 30 or 60 days before 9/1 they can play with that group.

This addresses players playing down and also gets rid of the edge case trapped players.

Yea I saw a the ECNL guys mention this at minute 3:25

https://youtu.be/lMbhMm4dmA0?si=1vXH7NKt_dri0t5J

Finally! some people get it.

Leagues don't have to be 100% binary. There are options that can be implemented that address trapped players entirely even the edge case SY ones.

Pay attention. They aren't ECNL guys and don't mention allowing players to cheat and play down.

One person mentions having Sept play up a year if they are up a grade. It would be pointless if course because players can always play up.

Play down guy give it a rest. We understand two conditions is more difficult than one. It will be OK.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the end of the world but it still is not great for the average level player with an August birthday that won't get to play with either his SY, the team they have been with for years or the majority of the kids their BY. Not everyone is worried about college I'd sessions. I understand there has to be a cutoff but 8/1 was probably the worst choice

Agreed 9/1 was the better choice. 🫡

9/1+30/60 is even better.

You get the 9/1 cutoff but if players can prove their grade and were born 30 or 60 days before 9/1 they can play with that group.

This addresses players playing down and also gets rid of the edge case trapped players.

Yea I saw a the ECNL guys mention this at minute 3:25

https://youtu.be/lMbhMm4dmA0?si=1vXH7NKt_dri0t5J

Finally! some people get it.

Leagues don't have to be 100% binary. There are options that can be implemented that address trapped players entirely even the edge case SY ones.

Pay attention. They aren't ECNL guys and don't mention allowing players to cheat and play down.

One person mentions having Sept play up a year if they are up a grade. It would be pointless if course because players can always play up.

The exact quote was...

"And then theyre going to make it Setember 1 and 2 teams will still have trapped players" he was saying that under SY with a 9/1 cutoff that there would still be teams with trapped players.

"so then I heard that they were going to do September 1 but if you were up the year in grades, in the school you'd stay with that..." this is another way of saying a 9/1 cutoff but if you're an Aug birthday you cant play down. Which is just a variation of 9/1+30/60.

What this means is that US Soccer and maybe US Club was considering 9/1 with a rule that Aug birthdays can only play with their birthday in school. I bet idiots like the guy screaming against 9/1+30/60 drowned out the logic pushing for the dumbest solution possible. This is when they switched to 8/1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the end of the world but it still is not great for the average level player with an August birthday that won't get to play with either his SY, the team they have been with for years or the majority of the kids their BY. Not everyone is worried about college I'd sessions. I understand there has to be a cutoff but 8/1 was probably the worst choice

Agreed 9/1 was the better choice. 🫡

9/1+30/60 is even better.

You get the 9/1 cutoff but if players can prove their grade and were born 30 or 60 days before 9/1 they can play with that group.

This addresses players playing down and also gets rid of the edge case trapped players.

Yea I saw a the ECNL guys mention this at minute 3:25

https://youtu.be/lMbhMm4dmA0?si=1vXH7NKt_dri0t5J

Finally! some people get it.

Leagues don't have to be 100% binary. There are options that can be implemented that address trapped players entirely even the edge case SY ones.

Pay attention. They aren't ECNL guys and don't mention allowing players to cheat and play down.

One person mentions having Sept play up a year if they are up a grade. It would be pointless if course because players can always play up.

One of the guys from the video is an ECNL girls coach. Sounds like they are looking into options.

The best one of course being grad year baby! Hold those 8th graders back!!

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the end of the world but it still is not great for the average level player with an August birthday that won't get to play with either his SY, the team they have been with for years or the majority of the kids their BY. Not everyone is worried about college I'd sessions. I understand there has to be a cutoff but 8/1 was probably the worst choice

Agreed 9/1 was the better choice. 🫡

9/1+30/60 is even better.

You get the 9/1 cutoff but if players can prove their grade and were born 30 or 60 days before 9/1 they can play with that group.

This addresses players playing down and also gets rid of the edge case trapped players.

Yea I saw a the ECNL guys mention this at minute 3:25

https://youtu.be/lMbhMm4dmA0?si=1vXH7NKt_dri0t5J

Finally! some people get it.

Leagues don't have to be 100% binary. There are options that can be implemented that address trapped players entirely even the edge case SY ones.

Pay attention. They aren't ECNL guys and don't mention allowing players to cheat and play down.

One person mentions having Sept play up a year if they are up a grade. It would be pointless if course because players can always play up.

One of the guys from the video is an ECNL girls coach. Sounds like they are looking into options.

The best one of course being grad year baby! Hold those 8th graders back!!

Hes suggesting GY because idiots like the commenter who only wants 8/1 will get vocal/stupid and he knows you cant reason with meatheads. A 9/1 cutoff with +30/60 days before 9/1 with proof of grade isnt hard to understand for most people but theres a small minority that dont understand math. Basically it takes too long to explain so the next best option is GY.

[Anonymous]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lMbhMm4dmA0&pp=0gcJCfwAo7VqN5tD

Listening to these guys talk Grad year is the way! Also someone said mid year movement sounds like a possibility.

What club does the eagles guy coach at?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not the end of the world but it still is not great for the average level player with an August birthday that won't get to play with either his SY, the team they have been with for years or the majority of the kids their BY. Not everyone is worried about college I'd sessions. I understand there has to be a cutoff but 8/1 was probably the worst choice

Agreed 9/1 was the better choice. 🫡

9/1+30/60 is even better.

You get the 9/1 cutoff but if players can prove their grade and were born 30 or 60 days before 9/1 they can play with that group.

This addresses players playing down and also gets rid of the edge case trapped players.

Yea I saw a the ECNL guys mention this at minute 3:25

https://youtu.be/lMbhMm4dmA0?si=1vXH7NKt_dri0t5J

Finally! some people get it.

Leagues don't have to be 100% binary. There are options that can be implemented that address trapped players entirely even the edge case SY ones.

Pay attention. They aren't ECNL guys and don't mention allowing players to cheat and play down.

One person mentions having Sept play up a year if they are up a grade. It would be pointless if course because players can always play up.

One of the guys from the video is an ECNL girls coach. Sounds like they are looking into options.

The best one of course being grad year baby! Hold those 8th graders back!!

Hes suggesting GY because idiots like the commenter who only wants 8/1 will get vocal/stupid and he knows you cant reason with meatheads. A 9/1 cutoff with +30/60 days before 9/1 with proof of grade isnt hard to understand for most people but theres a small minority that dont understand math. Basically it takes too long to explain so the next best option is GY.

Showcases should be grad year. If the goal is to get recruited at older high school ages a year or two age difference shouldn’t matter. If you’re D-1 you can play 2-3 years up and compete.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Not the end of the world but it still is not great for the average level player with an August birthday that won't get to play with either his SY, the team they have been with for years or the majority of the kids their BY. Not everyone is worried about college I'd sessions. I understand there has to be a cutoff but 8/1 was probably the worst choice

Agreed 9/1 was the better choice. 🫡

9/1+30/60 is even better.

You get the 9/1 cutoff but if players can prove their grade and were born 30 or 60 days before 9/1 they can play with that group.

This addresses players playing down and also gets rid of the edge case trapped players.

This wouldn't work. Not all kids have defined grades, schools don't really have uniform IDs for kids by grades in most districts and clubs can't police this. This exception idea seems like a poorly thought out coffee shop discussion from people wanting an edge for their kid that has no chance in the real world.

It exists and people are considering it.

You might have one commenter that just wants to try and win arguments.

Its the logical way to answer the trapped player question.

Only being considered on DCUM.