The United States Feels Like a Sad, Empty, Dark Place

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Anonymous wrote:OP, we all feel this way. It’s bad. A lot of us don’t see a way out either. Just know you aren’t alone.

No, we DON’T all feel this way.

I’m really optimistic for the future, because we have a president who isn’t afraid to address the problems that have been building for decades, in particular, millions of people who are here illegally and shouldn’t be.

I do not think most of these illegals immigrants are bad people - BUT - they shouldn’t be here. I wouldn’t be allowed to just show up in Mexico or Guatemala, get a job, use govt resources and schools for citizens, and stay there indefinitely. I’d get kicked out. Same thing should apply here.


Likewise, I’m happy we’re finally addressing trade imbalances and unfair tariff practices by other countries while the US doesn’t reciprocate equal tariffs. Personally, I think tariffs should look like a mirror, where we base our own tariffs on goods from other countries at the same exact rate they set for US made goods.

Iran should never have a nuclear weapon and we’re finally putting teeth into that, rather than bribing them with billions of dollars that they then use to fund the exact nuclear program they accepted bribes to not pursue.



So no, drama llamas, not everyone shares your ridiculous dystopian outlook.

I'd feel happy for you, except you have a President who lies to you and keeps a information that would go against the story he is telling you under cover

He's a deeply stupid man but he hates what you hate so you are okay with him lying to you. And let's admit, you never liked the U.S.anyway.

Too much freedom.

Don't worry, papa Trump will hook you up to the matrix where you can live out your 1950s fantasies.

You know what's funny?
The bolded summarizes the US under Biden.
He and his administration (and the Congress) lied to us about really consequential stuff. They kept so much undercover and it is finally starting to be made public now. Not only the fact that Biden was not cognitively sharp enough to be president, but about other things like China and Iran interfering in the 2020 election (yeah, Wray lied), the whole Hunter Biden saga, the border is secure, and a plethora of other issues.

We knew Biden has been a liar his entire life. The media worked hard to bury his past in order to ensure his victory.

Hunter Biden saga, lolololol. You have to be f’ing kidding with that.

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Anonymous wrote:This gloom & doom culture is a uniquely liberal one. It consumes politically focused democrats, becoming a self fulfilling prophecy. There are left center democrats that live their lives without perseverating on “resisting” that are fairly happy in life. Just know that the darkness and turmoil you perceive is something you alone assume and amplify. You would benefit from therapy.

I disagree. It is right-leaning folks that cling to their guns because they are terrified. And they cling to God/religion because the world is so scary. And they are preppers because they are terrified of government, war, the apocalypse, whatever.

We don’t “cling” to our guns in fear —neither do Democrats, by the way, but bear them proudly and with purpose which is our right under the U.S. Constitution, a document which is the highest law of the land.

The U.N. and Euro-weenie nations may not like it. Too bad!

We do not “cling” to our religion of Christianity from fear, any more than a Buddhist, Hindu, or Muslim. It is our right to practice our religion or have no religion at all.

The motto of the Boy Scouts is “be prepared”. A wise person makes provision for the future such as savings for home or car repairs, loss of power, snow storms, and so forth.

The majority of Americans on both the right and left love their country and support the government.

Certainly there are disagreements but are resolved peacefully by abiding by the rule of law.

Most of the wackos are in the Democratic party (who refuse to define the word woman) which is why they lost the presidency, House, and Senate.

A political party that does not respect America’s borders does not respect America. The Democratic party is the political party that wants to take away guns not because they care about children (their pro-abortion stance proves this) but because they are cowards and fear citizens will blast them out of office by force when they try to become the next Hitler or Stalin, both of whom were Leftist socialists, one National, one Globalist.

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Anonymous wrote:When I was a kid I was appalled when I’d read history or historical fiction and they’d literally throw a dead body off a stagecoach and keep driving. It was always a barometer for me that the world had improved.

The US has been through hard times before, and POC know this acutely. Many of us had very hard childhoods. Feel sad, then join the resistance.

Agree, put things into perspective. If you are unable to do that, go volunteer at a homeless shelter. Or go try living in any other country and see how fun, easy and safe it is compared to here.

NP. I think the stage coach analogy is excellent. Things do feel like a callous race against time for a lot of various groups in the world right now. When the US is stable, other countries are stable. That is why we are a global power.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, we all feel this way. It’s bad. A lot of us don’t see a way out either. Just know you aren’t alone.

No, we DON’T all feel this way.

I’m really optimistic for the future, because we have a president who isn’t afraid to address the problems that have been building for decades, in particular, millions of people who are here illegally and shouldn’t be.

I do not think most of these illegals immigrants are bad people - BUT - they shouldn’t be here. I wouldn’t be allowed to just show up in Mexico or Guatemala, get a job, use govt resources and schools for citizens, and stay there indefinitely. I’d get kicked out. Same thing should apply here.


Likewise, I’m happy we’re finally addressing trade imbalances and unfair tariff practices by other countries while the US doesn’t reciprocate equal tariffs. Personally, I think tariffs should look like a mirror, where we base our own tariffs on goods from other countries at the same exact rate they set for US made goods.

Iran should never have a nuclear weapon and we’re finally putting teeth into that, rather than bribing them with billions of dollars that they then use to fund the exact nuclear program they accepted bribes to not pursue.



So no, drama llamas, not everyone shares your ridiculous dystopian outlook.

I'd feel happy for you, except you have a President who lies to you and keeps a information that would go against the story he is telling you under cover

He's a deeply stupid man but he hates what you hate so you are okay with him lying to you. And let's admit, you never liked the U.S.anyway.

Too much freedom.

Don't worry, papa Trump will hook you up to the matrix where you can live out your 1950s fantasies.

You know what's funny?
The bolded summarizes the US under Biden.
He and his administration (and the Congress) lied to us about really consequential stuff. They kept so much undercover and it is finally starting to be made public now. Not only the fact that Biden was not cognitively sharp enough to be president, but about other things like China and Iran interfering in the 2020 election (yeah, Wray lied), the whole Hunter Biden saga, the border is secure, and a plethora of other issues.

We knew Biden has been a liar his entire life. The media worked hard to bury his past in order to ensure his victory.

Get back to us when there are a documented 30,000+ lies told by Biden versus those told by Trump. And those were just from Trump‘s first term!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

Exhibit One.

Some costs related to travel — like lodging, car rentals and airline fares — are down compared to a year ago. And prices for some goods have fallen as well, including for gas, smartphones and other electronics.
In April, prices were lower year-over-year for nearly a third of the goods and services categories tracked by the consumer price index.

https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/finance/what-prices-are-actually-deflating

I just bought pens that were $7 more than they were 3 years ago. I checked the price six years ago, to compare (it seems like I need pens every 3 years), and:

2025: $19
2022: $12
2019: $10

I know this is a small purchase, but I definitely don’t feel like anything is cheaper.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, we all feel this way. It’s bad. A lot of us don’t see a way out either. Just know you aren’t alone.

No, we DON’T all feel this way.

I’m really optimistic for the future, because we have a president who isn’t afraid to address the problems that have been building for decades, in particular, millions of people who are here illegally and shouldn’t be.

I do not think most of these illegals immigrants are bad people - BUT - they shouldn’t be here. I wouldn’t be allowed to just show up in Mexico or Guatemala, get a job, use govt resources and schools for citizens, and stay there indefinitely. I’d get kicked out. Same thing should apply here.


Likewise, I’m happy we’re finally addressing trade imbalances and unfair tariff practices by other countries while the US doesn’t reciprocate equal tariffs. Personally, I think tariffs should look like a mirror, where we base our own tariffs on goods from other countries at the same exact rate they set for US made goods.

Iran should never have a nuclear weapon and we’re finally putting teeth into that, rather than bribing them with billions of dollars that they then use to fund the exact nuclear program they accepted bribes to not pursue.



So no, drama llamas, not everyone shares your ridiculous dystopian outlook.

Um, no.

We can have a president that does what you describe WHILE not disregarding the constitution, upholding their oath of office (not causing an insurrection). Accepting the will of the people which the current president didn’t do in 2020. Not slamming judge’s rulings because you don’t like it. We don’t need someone in charge that has the temperament my son had when he was 5 yrs old!

Could go on and on and on.

We’ve had a succession of Presidents who all acted very presidential…… and left us with the mess that Trump is cleaning up.

Between Presidential and Trump, I’ll take Trump right now. Because at least his UNpresidential ass is trying to fix things in care about. We can go back to presidential presidents when stuff is fixed.

He is fixing nothing. His tariffs threats are wrecking the economy and he’s alienated our closest allies. He ripped apart America’s science funding (our greatest engine for economic growth over the last century), and used the office to carry out personal, extra-Constitutional vendettas. He’s an abomination.

So it turns out our closest allies really hate us unless they can rip us off. Trump does a great service exposing reality without the fake politicians sneaky lying. Love Trump.

By “ripping us off” you mean abiding by previously negotiated trade agreements, including those negotiated by Trump himself in 2017. You MAGA morons are so stupid I don’t know how you manage to function.

It’s a cult. We know that it’s a cult, but cult members rarely know that they are cult members.

It’s gotten to the point that former members are coming forward to help deprogram maga cult members.

https://adamkinzinger.substack.com/p/one-of-the-most-important-conversations

“He didn’t just leave quietly, either. He founded Leaving MAGA, a nonprofit organization dedicated to helping others break free from what he now sees as an extremist political cult.“

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Dramatic much, OP?

Go watch Squid Games season 3 - that will make you feel better about America.

this fictional TV show is your comeback? weak.

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I wouldn’t be allowed to just show up in Mexico or Guatemala, get a job, use govt resources and schools for citizens

but would you take matters into your own hands if your child was starving to death? Jesus, no comparison.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, we all feel this way. It’s bad. A lot of us don’t see a way out either. Just know you aren’t alone.

No, we DON’T all feel this way.

I’m really optimistic for the future, because we have a president who isn’t afraid to address the problems that have been building for decades, in particular, millions of people who are here illegally and shouldn’t be.

I do not think most of these illegals immigrants are bad people - BUT - they shouldn’t be here. I wouldn’t be allowed to just show up in Mexico or Guatemala, get a job, use govt resources and schools for citizens, and stay there indefinitely. I’d get kicked out. Same thing should apply here.


Likewise, I’m happy we’re finally addressing trade imbalances and unfair tariff practices by other countries while the US doesn’t reciprocate equal tariffs. Personally, I think tariffs should look like a mirror, where we base our own tariffs on goods from other countries at the same exact rate they set for US made goods.

Iran should never have a nuclear weapon and we’re finally putting teeth into that, rather than bribing them with billions of dollars that they then use to fund the exact nuclear program they accepted bribes to not pursue.



So no, drama llamas, not everyone shares your ridiculous dystopian outlook.

Um, no.

We can have a president that does what you describe WHILE not disregarding the constitution, upholding their oath of office (not causing an insurrection). Accepting the will of the people which the current president didn’t do in 2020. Not slamming judge’s rulings because you don’t like it. We don’t need someone in charge that has the temperament my son had when he was 5 yrs old!

Could go on and on and on.

We’ve had a succession of Presidents who all acted very presidential…… and left us with the mess that Trump is cleaning up.

Between Presidential and Trump, I’ll take Trump right now. Because at least his UNpresidential ass is trying to fix things in care about. We can go back to presidential presidents when stuff is fixed.

+1 european who married an American

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s unrecognizable. It’s callous. It’s frightening. It’s stressful. It’s crass. I would say to anyone still thinking of coming here to not bother. There is no pleasure living in the US due to politics, standards of living, how expenses it is, the lack of real freedoms, half of the country engulfed by the maga cult even when facts stare them in the face, a broken and cruel SCOTUS who insists on unlimited executive power that has sealed our fates as a country, AI taking over, and tech bros being clearly in charge, our way of life being dismantled, education on its knees…there is no amount of praying that will ever see us through, it’s over for all of us. It’s too late.

OP, it’s not too late. If you stood on a corner with a sign that criticized the Trump admin would you be put in jail? NO. Until you can’t do that it’s not too late.

Please, turn off news/social media and volunteer for the VA elections. Attend a Tesla Takedown, get a group of friends to do a sign wave (literally holding signs on street corner). Go to Indivisible.org and find an event or group. Check out Mobilize. There are multiple events daily!

There is zero excuse for doing nothing. This is for anyone on this thread who wants to doom and gloom. It’s hard, but giving up is not an option. I say this with love and compassion: Stop complaining and Act.

"If you stood on a corner with a sign that criticized the Trump admin would you be put in jail? NO. Until you can’t do that it’s not too late."


This no longer true. Only US citizens with ironclad documentation of their citizenship, along with their parents, can speak freely without fear of internment or deportation.

And even if you are a citizen, if you are not lilly white or African American, ICE may detain you anyway, until you can prove your citizenship.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, we all feel this way. It’s bad. A lot of us don’t see a way out either. Just know you aren’t alone.

No, we DON’T all feel this way.

I’m really optimistic for the future, because we have a president who isn’t afraid to address the problems that have been building for decades, in particular, millions of people who are here illegally and shouldn’t be.

I do not think most of these illegals immigrants are bad people - BUT - they shouldn’t be here. I wouldn’t be allowed to just show up in Mexico or Guatemala, get a job, use govt resources and schools for citizens, and stay there indefinitely. I’d get kicked out. Same thing should apply here.


Likewise, I’m happy we’re finally addressing trade imbalances and unfair tariff practices by other countries while the US doesn’t reciprocate equal tariffs. Personally, I think tariffs should look like a mirror, where we base our own tariffs on goods from other countries at the same exact rate they set for US made goods.

Iran should never have a nuclear weapon and we’re finally putting teeth into that, rather than bribing them with billions of dollars that they then use to fund the exact nuclear program they accepted bribes to not pursue.



So no, drama llamas, not everyone shares your ridiculous dystopian outlook.

I'd feel happy for you, except you have a President who lies to you and keeps a information that would go against the story he is telling you under cover

He's a deeply stupid man but he hates what you hate so you are okay with him lying to you. And let's admit, you never liked the U.S.anyway.

Too much freedom.

Don't worry, papa Trump will hook you up to the matrix where you can live out your 1950s fantasies.

You know what's funny?
The bolded summarizes the US under Biden.
He and his administration (and the Congress) lied to us about really consequential stuff. They kept so much undercover and it is finally starting to be made public now. Not only the fact that Biden was not cognitively sharp enough to be president, but about other things like China and Iran interfering in the 2020 election (yeah, Wray lied), the whole Hunter Biden saga, the border is secure, and a plethora of other issues.

We knew Biden has been a liar his entire life. The media worked hard to bury his past in order to ensure his victory.

Get back to us when there are a documented 30,000+ lies told by Biden versus those told by Trump. And those were just from Trump‘s first term!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

Exhibit One.

Some costs related to travel — like lodging, car rentals and airline fares — are down compared to a year ago. And prices for some goods have fallen as well, including for gas, smartphones and other electronics.
In April, prices were lower year-over-year for nearly a third of the goods and services categories tracked by the consumer price index.

https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/finance/what-prices-are-actually-deflating

I just bought pens that were $7 more than they were 3 years ago. I checked the price six years ago, to compare (it seems like I need pens every 3 years), and:

2025: $19
2022: $12
2019: $10

I know this is a small purchase, but I definitely don’t feel like anything is cheaper.

unless this was a 100 pack you have crazy tastes in pens. Are these imports from a stationery store in Tokyo?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My grocery bill has gone down so not sure what you are buying? i tend to buy US stuff like eggs and milk and but not sure on exotic stuff. Maybe you buy from countries who we
tariff. Rey to buy American. Finally see people feeling okay to fly American flags and have them on their car stickers. Pride in the country is back and that is a good thing.

This is weird. Flying American flags was never not ok, nor shouldn’t it have ever been. I live in a fairly liberal area and tons of people put out flags all year, and red, white and blue bunting around July 4.

My grocery prices are nowhere near down, though. And meat and produce quality is worse.

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Anonymous wrote:My white grandparents lived in a modest bungalow for 70+ years, were very friendly with all their neighbors, never had air conditioning, had one tiny bathroom, one car if they were lucky, my grandma cooked and baked everyday, even in summer when it was 100 degrees, my grandpa worked at a factory, fished and hunted, and did all repairs needed around the house, he knew how to fix anything. They wore the same clothes for years and grandma would mend any holes in clothes. They both had high school educations. Camping in a tent was their annual family vacation. They went to church but were actually atheists. They were beautiful seemingly happy content people. By today’s standards they would be thought of as being poor. They never once felt sorry for themselves. In a way this was a better time though. I don’t know that they were 100% happy all the time but they always acted happy in front of the children at least. I think our outlook has been clouded by social media. It think we are always striving for the unattainable, it’s never enough. We all think we are movie stars now.

The marxists are all about envy. Unhappy, envious and destined for Hell. They lose horribly in the end. Most of the USA is on the winning team now. Just makes them more miserable.

The fact that you automatically assume anti Trump means Marxist says it all. You just keep parroting Fox News. The people who take pride in owning the libs really should not be lecturing people on not being unhappy. Fulfilled people don’t take glee in others’ malcontent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This gloom & doom culture is a uniquely liberal one. It consumes politically focused democrats, becoming a self fulfilling prophecy. There are left center democrats that live their lives without perseverating on “resisting” that are fairly happy in life. Just know that the darkness and turmoil you perceive is something you alone assume and amplify. You would benefit from therapy.

I disagree. It is right-leaning folks that cling to their guns because they are terrified. And they cling to God/religion because the world is so scary. And they are preppers because they are terrified of government, war, the apocalypse, whatever.

We don’t “cling” to our guns in fear —neither do Democrats, by the way, but bear them proudly and with purpose which is our right under the U.S. Constitution, a document which is the highest law of the land.

The U.N. and Euro-weenie nations may not like it. Too bad!

We do not “cling” to our religion of Christianity from fear, any more than a Buddhist, Hindu, or Muslim. It is our right to practice our religion or have no religion at all.

The motto of the Boy Scouts is “be prepared”. A wise person makes provision for the future such as savings for home or car repairs, loss of power, snow storms, and so forth.

The majority of Americans on both the right and left love their country and support the government.

Certainly there are disagreements but are resolved peacefully by abiding by the rule of law.

Most of the wackos are in the Democratic party (who refuse to define the word woman) which is why they lost the presidency, House, and Senate.

A political party that does not respect America’s borders does not respect America. The Democratic party is the political party that wants to take away guns not because they care about children (their pro-abortion stance proves this) but because they are cowards and fear citizens will blast them out of office by force when they try to become the next Hitler or Stalin, both of whom were Leftist socialists, one National, one Globalist.

It cracks me up that the Don’t Thread on Me folks are aligned with the authoritarian peeps. All that bravado and now you just lying down while they take it all away from you. Dumb. You all are just dumb.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This gloom & doom culture is a uniquely liberal one. It consumes politically focused democrats, becoming a self fulfilling prophecy. There are left center democrats that live their lives without perseverating on “resisting” that are fairly happy in life. Just know that the darkness and turmoil you perceive is something you alone assume and amplify. You would benefit from therapy.

I disagree. It is right-leaning folks that cling to their guns because they are terrified. And they cling to God/religion because the world is so scary. And they are preppers because they are terrified of government, war, the apocalypse, whatever.

I've never once clinged to a gun. Nor have I seen anyone walking around, forlorn, clinging a gun. Mostly they are stored safely or being used for sport.

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Anonymous wrote:OP, we all feel this way. It’s bad. A lot of us don’t see a way out either. Just know you aren’t alone.

No, we DON’T all feel this way.

I’m really optimistic for the future, because we have a president who isn’t afraid to address the problems that have been building for decades, in particular, millions of people who are here illegally and shouldn’t be.

I do not think most of these illegals immigrants are bad people - BUT - they shouldn’t be here. I wouldn’t be allowed to just show up in Mexico or Guatemala, get a job, use govt resources and schools for citizens, and stay there indefinitely. I’d get kicked out. Same thing should apply here.


Likewise, I’m happy we’re finally addressing trade imbalances and unfair tariff practices by other countries while the US doesn’t reciprocate equal tariffs. Personally, I think tariffs should look like a mirror, where we base our own tariffs on goods from other countries at the same exact rate they set for US made goods.

Iran should never have a nuclear weapon and we’re finally putting teeth into that, rather than bribing them with billions of dollars that they then use to fund the exact nuclear program they accepted bribes to not pursue.



So no, drama llamas, not everyone shares your ridiculous dystopian outlook.

I'd feel happy for you, except you have a President who lies to you and keeps a information that would go against the story he is telling you under cover

He's a deeply stupid man but he hates what you hate so you are okay with him lying to you. And let's admit, you never liked the U.S.anyway.

Too much freedom.

Don't worry, papa Trump will hook you up to the matrix where you can live out your 1950s fantasies.

You know what's funny?
The bolded summarizes the US under Biden.
He and his administration (and the Congress) lied to us about really consequential stuff. They kept so much undercover and it is finally starting to be made public now. Not only the fact that Biden was not cognitively sharp enough to be president, but about other things like China and Iran interfering in the 2020 election (yeah, Wray lied), the whole Hunter Biden saga, the border is secure, and a plethora of other issues.

We knew Biden has been a liar his entire life. The media worked hard to bury his past in order to ensure his victory.

Get back to us when there are a documented 30,000+ lies told by Biden versus those told by Trump. And those were just from Trump‘s first term!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/01/24/trumps-false-or-misleading-claims-total-30573-over-four-years/

Exhibit One.

Some costs related to travel — like lodging, car rentals and airline fares — are down compared to a year ago. And prices for some goods have fallen as well, including for gas, smartphones and other electronics.
In April, prices were lower year-over-year for nearly a third of the goods and services categories tracked by the consumer price index.

https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/finance/what-prices-are-actually-deflating

I just bought pens that were $7 more than they were 3 years ago. I checked the price six years ago, to compare (it seems like I need pens every 3 years), and:

2025: $19
2022: $12
2019: $10

I know this is a small purchase, but I definitely don’t feel like anything is cheaper.

unless this was a 100 pack you have crazy tastes in pens. Are these imports from a stationery store in Tokyo?

Nope. Staples. Please focus on the price.