Why do Rs hate the LGBTQ community?

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”

And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.

Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.

No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.

Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.

I wouldn't want my children taught lgbtq+ indoctrination either. And it has nothing to do with religion.

OP here. I have known many gay people in my life. I have never known one who wanted to indoctrinate me.

DP. Nor were any of my gay friends indoctrinated into the lifestyle.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.

Don't muddy the waters with facts, logic and reason.

Or how about don’t change the subject. Just go ahead and admit you are a culture warrior.

How is it changing the subject to acknowledge that as schools keep trying to teach about gender and sexuality issues, our international test scores in math and reading and science have fallen plummeted? There are only so many hours in the school day for instruction.

OP's question has been answered with many perspectives. She and you clearly simply don't like the answer. Therefore you change the subject.

This thread was prompted by a scotus ruling today about Maryland school curriculum. A discussion about test scores and academic performance is absolutely relevant.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

To make your post more legitimate, can you give a specific example of hate conducted by the member of the republican party on the member of LGBTQ community>

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why gender ideology or graphic lgbt books need to be in public school books unless it’s to cause a “sexual awakening” in kids.

It seems the schools are their way of giving birth/increasing their numbers.

Because they hate children. Can't have their own biological children, hate yours.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why gender ideology or graphic lgbt books need to be in public school books unless it’s to cause a “sexual awakening” in kids.

It seems the schools are their way of giving birth/increasing their numbers.

Why on earth would a school district want a sexual awakening in kids?

Has it occurred to you that if kids learn about diversity and inclusion from an early age they will be less likely to bully or exclude someone different from them later on? Trust me, no teacher or principal is wanting to make kids MORE interested and intrigued with sex. I already have to avoid the number 69 and the word balls at all cost. Lol

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Anonymous wrote:Can I be real here?

I am a democrat, btw.

I have a gay son who has known he was gay since he was 11, and he never had any doubt. He’s gay.

My daughter was straight, went to college and met many, many people who are LGBTQ, especially bi. Also became immersed in lots of bisexual pop culture. She came out as bi, and even had a relationship with a girl for awhile. She is now in a relationship with a guy and no longer considers herself bi. This has been the same with several of her friends.

So, what I’m saying is that it is not a choice to be gay. But also, in many circles, it is definitely trendy right now to identify as LGBTQ so kids are convincing themselves of it. But also, college-aged kids experimenting with their sexuality is nothing new. They are just more open about it now.

Also, the more they see adults clutch their pearls about it, the more intrigued they become with it.

OP here. Agree. This is what I am saying. We need to stop allowing this to be a thing. My daughter knew she was gay at age 10. And she still is. However my sister and a best friend in college both experimented and are now married to men.

And here you go again. Who are you to “allow” other people to think differently than you? Why do you think you get to determine what everyone else believes?

+1 they keep saying they're not culture warriors and then keep pushing for a culture war. Please go live as you please and stop pushing lgbtq+ lifestyle like the christians you oppose push theirs.

Dp here. I don’t see op trying to push anything. Just genuinely wondering why you all can’t just let others live their lives. Why do you care if someone is gay or trans? Seriously, WHY DO YOU CARE? And don’t say that you don’t want your kids exposed to it. You aren’t worried about your kids being exposed to…oh I don’t know…a school shooter, or a gun at a friend’s house that isn’t locked up. I could go on, but you get the point.

OP here. Thanks. This is true. I just don’t get why it has to be a big deal in the other side of the aisle. Or for anyone. Just let it be. They are human just like you and me.

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OP, I think you'll find a lot of D's hate the LGBTQ community today.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”

And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.

Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.

No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.

Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.

I wouldn't want my children taught lgbtq+ indoctrination either. And it has nothing to do with religion.

OP here. I have known many gay people in my life. I have never known one who wanted to indoctrinate me.

DP. Nor were any of my gay friends indoctrinated into the lifestyle.

Most gay people I know are hoping their own children are not gay because they know firsthand what hardship they would face.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can I be real here?

I am a democrat, btw.

I have a gay son who has known he was gay since he was 11, and he never had any doubt. He’s gay.

My daughter was straight, went to college and met many, many people who are LGBTQ, especially bi. Also became immersed in lots of bisexual pop culture. She came out as bi, and even had a relationship with a girl for awhile. She is now in a relationship with a guy and no longer considers herself bi. This has been the same with several of her friends.

So, what I’m saying is that it is not a choice to be gay. But also, in many circles, it is definitely trendy right now to identify as LGBTQ so kids are convincing themselves of it. But also, college-aged kids experimenting with their sexuality is nothing new. They are just more open about it now.

Also, the more they see adults clutch their pearls about it, the more intrigued they become with it.

You’re welcome to believe that. You’re not welcome to teach that to other people’s children as a condition of their attending public school. Whether you agree or not, it’s a moral/religious question and schools are supposed to be teaching facts.

DP. What exactly is a moral or religious question here? All the PP is saying is that it's normal for gay people to exist-that is a fact.

Whether marriage is between a man and a woman
Whether people can be born into the wrong body
Whether people can choose their sex

And on and on.

All of these are moral and religious questions not science, and don’t belong in the classsroom.

The Maryland curriculum was not about “gays exist.” If you read up about the case, you would know this.

None of these are moral or religious questions, especially the first one. If you feel that these are, then you have no business sending your children to public schools and are thereby proving OP's point; Republicans hate, or a least are very uncomfortable with LGTQ+ people.

Disagreement isn’t hate, and yes, questions about sex and gender are inevitably moral. You’re being disingenuous denying the obvious.

Actually, it is. Perhaps you need to broaden your mind and learn what morality actually is and not what your religion tells you is moral.

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Teacher here and I’m not MAGA but have that reputation in my school. This is how things have changed in 20 years.

I want to decorate my room with my content area posters. That’s it. I teach math and want to put up my cheesy stupid math posters. I don’t want to put up anything political, anything for any cause whatsoever. Every month or so, a different group comes by and asks if they can by and hang up something in my room now so I can show my support on some cause. Now I say no because it’s all too much in schools. I don’t want posters supporting any cause, I just want to decorate my room in the way I want.

So I get whispers amongst other staff and students that I am MAGA.

Look at OP and the stereotype

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can I be real here?

I am a democrat, btw.

I have a gay son who has known he was gay since he was 11, and he never had any doubt. He’s gay.

My daughter was straight, went to college and met many, many people who are LGBTQ, especially bi. Also became immersed in lots of bisexual pop culture. She came out as bi, and even had a relationship with a girl for awhile. She is now in a relationship with a guy and no longer considers herself bi. This has been the same with several of her friends.

So, what I’m saying is that it is not a choice to be gay. But also, in many circles, it is definitely trendy right now to identify as LGBTQ so kids are convincing themselves of it. But also, college-aged kids experimenting with their sexuality is nothing new. They are just more open about it now.

Also, the more they see adults clutch their pearls about it, the more intrigued they become with it.

You’re welcome to believe that. You’re not welcome to teach that to other people’s children as a condition of their attending public school. Whether you agree or not, it’s a moral/religious question and schools are supposed to be teaching facts.

DP. What exactly is a moral or religious question here? All the PP is saying is that it's normal for gay people to exist-that is a fact.

Whether marriage is between a man and a woman
Whether people can be born into the wrong body
Whether people can choose their sex

And on and on.

All of these are moral and religious questions not science, and don’t belong in the classsroom.

The Maryland curriculum was not about “gays exist.” If you read up about the case, you would know this.

None of these are moral or religious questions, especially the first one. If you feel that these are, then you have no business sending your children to public schools and are thereby proving OP's point; Republicans hate, or a least are very uncomfortable with LGTQ+ people.

Disagreement isn’t hate, and yes, questions about sex and gender are inevitably moral. You’re being disingenuous denying the obvious.

Actually, it is. Perhaps you need to broaden your mind and learn what morality actually is and not what your religion tells you is moral.

Meanwhile, there's you setting Teslas on fire.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile 50% of American school children read, write and do math at a level four grades below the grade they are in.

Good times.

OP here. YES.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

Because a) they believe being LBGTQ is a choice on some level b) they’re afraid of their kids being LGBTQ and so they want all references removed out of fear their child will be “convinced.”

And it’s their right to believe that. So leave other parents alone. Raise your kids the way you want but you don’t get to force your beliefs on other people’s kids at taxpayer funded schools without an opt out.

Key word there— belief.

One day someone will sue their school district because they smoke and the health teacher dared to say smoking causes cancer and little Larla is traumatized and went home crying begging for her parents to stop smoking. And they don’t believe smoking always causes cancer because they go to the gym and feel just fine and nana and George Burns smoked and lived until 100.

No. Religions don't take much of a stance on smoking or the origins of cancer. Culturally, smoking has been more or less common worldwide. It's not the same. I know OP doesnt want to talk about religion. But it's impossible not to, when religion has shaped our culture for thousands of years.

Religion has shaped our country for the worse. Christians have caused untold amounts of suffering throughout the entire existence of the religion. Religion is at the root of every societal injustice in out history. From slavery to genocide of the indigenous populations to woman’s suffrage there were the christian’s trying to stand in the way. Just leave us alone already.

I wouldn't want my children taught lgbtq+ indoctrination either. And it has nothing to do with religion.

OP here. I have known many gay people in my life. I have never known one who wanted to indoctrinate me.

No one is cleaning the Maryland teachers were gay! That doesn’t mean indoctrination wasn’t taking place in the school, it absolutely was.

Then who was? The other kids? The guidance counselor? The principal? Music teacher? PE teacher?

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Anonymous wrote:Op, to put it simply- they think it will make their child gay. That’s really all there is to it.

Little do they know that kids who grow up in conservative, evangelical households are absolutely NOTORIOUS for secretly rebelling against their parents. I guess what they don’t know can’t hurt them. Lol

This is actually what is at the root of
Most of our problems - a lack of understanding of science and a failure to
Teach critical thinking skills.

Teaching someone that they were born in the wrong body and need hormones and surgery to fix it isn’t “critical thinking skills.” It’s a highly debatable position entirely inappropriate for children to be exposed to.

It’s pseudo science and literally every country in the Western World is way more conservative about it than us. We are more left wing than Sweden about this issue. When you’re fringe compared to Sweden you have lost the plot.

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Anonymous wrote:I just don’t understand why they are doing everything they can to make them invisible and strip them of rights. Help me understand. Don’t give me Bible BS. There are plenty of other things in the Bible we don’t permit like polygamy.

To make your post more legitimate, can you give a specific example of hate conducted by the member of the republican party on the member of LGBTQ community>

Here you go:

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-988-national-lgbtq-suicide-lifeline-backlash/