Advice from Parents of *Minority Students*

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I’m East Asian and like 1000% identify as a “*minority*,” but I’m guessing my thoughts wouldn’t be welcome on this post?

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Asian hate. See right through.

Bizarre conclusions on a pretty harmless post.

Liberal art colleges never attract many Asian students. Bring Asian in this conversation is clearly targeting Asian.

Take Williams as an example, the percentage of Asian students stay nearly unchanged over the years.
https://williamsrecord.com/467282/news/first-year-demographics-shift-slightly-following-affirmative-action-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Asians are not being "targeted" by OP. The issue is the Asian and White students will not want to be friends with and share in life with the non Asian or White students, so why would a non Asian or non White student subject themselves to that? What "Asians" have to understand is that you never want people talking about you, even in a netural way, otherwise you claim "Asian hate" but at the same time all over DCUM, "Asisans" have so much to say about black people, and even white people at times.

Most absurd assertion. Not in NYC anyway.

Come to California. Berkeley is insanely racially segregated. All asian groups basically everywhere that judge white students and especially other minority students. White students flock towards the greek life for their "community." It's pretty clear when these campuses are heavily segregated, and you really get to see how this generation operates. There are many other parts of the country where people are very very race-sensitive, and California is one of them.

Yes. I don't get this generation, as a Gen Xer. It is like they are turning back time. Or, did we increase immigration too fast in the past 20 to 30 years and there is not longer a sense of cohesion in this country at all?

Part of it is immigrant students who come from cultures where homogeneity is good and they prefer to stay with their cliques of international/their race students. Another part is higher ed becoming very diverse, potentially way too quickly and expecting the northeast boarding school generationally wealthy student to hang out with the rural, conservative queer kid is very unlikely to work in your favor. Diversity is great, but students will always find infrastructure and network in a way to stick to what they are used to and what they know.

Showing your true color. Xenophobia

...nothing about that is xenophobic. I'd stick with American students too if I were to go to college abroad.

Immigrants' kids are still Americans. Are you excluding them from your circle just because they are Asian immigrants' kids?

Oh my god you’re so dense. I’m specifically talking about Asian immigrant students, who are significant block of American higher ed

They aren’t a block.

Seriously, why are Americans so set on lumping more than half of the world’s population into one category?

Do you really think a Korean kid and a Sri Lankan kid see each other as members of some tribe together?

This isn’t unique to Asian people. That’s just how race works.

+1, this is a weird insistence by people on this forum that Asian people are so foreign to the rest of us that we wouldn’t understand that people from different countries…have different cultures and practices. Yes, we are aware. You aren’t special. Just be a person beyond your race.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m East Asian and like 1000% identify as a “*minority*,” but I’m guessing my thoughts wouldn’t be welcome on this post?

Maybe they would, try contributing.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread becoming an Asian-bashing thread?? It’s not about black, white, yellow, brown, striped. It’s about finding one’s people and community at an SLAC. My advice to OP- acknowledge that race is there but don’t have your kid go into her SLAC experience with negative assumptions. You may be pleasantly surprised. Have your kid put herself out there, be open to a mix of students, and be proactive about meeting people. (Most) Everyone struggles in different ways to find their community in college- the struggles just take on different forms. The struggles to fit in and belong aren’ t always about race.

All the positive thinking and happy thoughts and trying really really hard to be friendly, as you suggest, doesn't matter if other students take one look at a student and dismiss her value due to her color. So your advice to her to just make a good effort falls flat.

How does the advice fall flat? It’s constructive, realistic advice and well-intentioned. It’s not saying race is not an issue or that finding community on campus will be easy or quick. Some white students struggle to fit in for different reasons. Internationals have their struggles. People who aren’t athletes have their struggles at certain places.

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Asian hate. See right through.

Bizarre conclusions on a pretty harmless post.

Liberal art colleges never attract many Asian students. Bring Asian in this conversation is clearly targeting Asian.

Take Williams as an example, the percentage of Asian students stay nearly unchanged over the years.
https://williamsrecord.com/467282/news/first-year-demographics-shift-slightly-following-affirmative-action-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Asians are not being "targeted" by OP. The issue is the Asian and White students will not want to be friends with and share in life with the non Asian or White students, so why would a non Asian or non White student subject themselves to that? What "Asians" have to understand is that you never want people talking about you, even in a netural way, otherwise you claim "Asian hate" but at the same time all over DCUM, "Asisans" have so much to say about black people, and even white people at times.

Most absurd assertion. Not in NYC anyway.

Come to California. Berkeley is insanely racially segregated. All asian groups basically everywhere that judge white students and especially other minority students. White students flock towards the greek life for their "community." It's pretty clear when these campuses are heavily segregated, and you really get to see how this generation operates. There are many other parts of the country where people are very very race-sensitive, and California is one of them.

Yes. I don't get this generation, as a Gen Xer. It is like they are turning back time. Or, did we increase immigration too fast in the past 20 to 30 years and there is not longer a sense of cohesion in this country at all?

Part of it is immigrant students who come from cultures where homogeneity is good and they prefer to stay with their cliques of international/their race students. Another part is higher ed becoming very diverse, potentially way too quickly and expecting the northeast boarding school generationally wealthy student to hang out with the rural, conservative queer kid is very unlikely to work in your favor. Diversity is great, but students will always find infrastructure and network in a way to stick to what they are used to and what they know.

Showing your true color. Xenophobia

...nothing about that is xenophobic. I'd stick with American students too if I were to go to college abroad.

Immigrants' kids are still Americans. Are you excluding them from your circle just because they are Asian immigrants' kids?

Oh my god you’re so dense. I’m specifically talking about Asian immigrant students, who are significant block of American higher ed

They aren’t a block.

Seriously, why are Americans so set on lumping more than half of the world’s population into one category?

Do you really think a Korean kid and a Sri Lankan kid see each other as members of some tribe together?

no, is the U.S., "Asian" is a self-created category like "Hispanic" that is a social construct. "Asian" in the U.S. per those that call themselves that, means Indians, Koreans, Chinese, and maybe well to do Vietnamese or other well to do immigrants from the Sinosphere that are financially and academically successful. All others from the Asian continent ar enot really "Asian", they are just what they are: Filipinos, Indonesians, and gasp, Hmongs!

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Anonymous wrote:Why is this thread becoming an Asian-bashing thread?? It’s not about black, white, yellow, brown, striped. It’s about finding one’s people and community at an SLAC. My advice to OP- acknowledge that race is there but don’t have your kid go into her SLAC experience with negative assumptions. You may be pleasantly surprised. Have your kid put herself out there, be open to a mix of students, and be proactive about meeting people. (Most) Everyone struggles in different ways to find their community in college- the struggles just take on different forms. The struggles to fit in and belong aren’ t always about race.

All the positive thinking and happy thoughts and trying really really hard to be friendly, as you suggest, doesn't matter if other students take one look at a student and dismiss her value due to her color. So your advice to her to just make a good effort falls flat.

How does the advice fall flat? It’s constructive, realistic advice and well-intentioned. It’s not saying race is not an issue or that finding community on campus will be easy or quick. Some white students struggle to fit in for different reasons. Internationals have their struggles. People who aren’t athletes have their struggles at certain places.

It falls flat because it takes two to tango.

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Asian hate. See right through.

Bizarre conclusions on a pretty harmless post.

Liberal art colleges never attract many Asian students. Bring Asian in this conversation is clearly targeting Asian.

Take Williams as an example, the percentage of Asian students stay nearly unchanged over the years.
https://williamsrecord.com/467282/news/first-year-demographics-shift-slightly-following-affirmative-action-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Asians are not being "targeted" by OP. The issue is the Asian and White students will not want to be friends with and share in life with the non Asian or White students, so why would a non Asian or non White student subject themselves to that? What "Asians" have to understand is that you never want people talking about you, even in a netural way, otherwise you claim "Asian hate" but at the same time all over DCUM, "Asisans" have so much to say about black people, and even white people at times.

Most absurd assertion. Not in NYC anyway.

Come to California. Berkeley is insanely racially segregated. All asian groups basically everywhere that judge white students and especially other minority students. White students flock towards the greek life for their "community." It's pretty clear when these campuses are heavily segregated, and you really get to see how this generation operates. There are many other parts of the country where people are very very race-sensitive, and California is one of them.

Yes. I don't get this generation, as a Gen Xer. It is like they are turning back time. Or, did we increase immigration too fast in the past 20 to 30 years and there is not longer a sense of cohesion in this country at all?

Part of it is immigrant students who come from cultures where homogeneity is good and they prefer to stay with their cliques of international/their race students. Another part is higher ed becoming very diverse, potentially way too quickly and expecting the northeast boarding school generationally wealthy student to hang out with the rural, conservative queer kid is very unlikely to work in your favor. Diversity is great, but students will always find infrastructure and network in a way to stick to what they are used to and what they know.

Showing your true color. Xenophobia

...nothing about that is xenophobic. I'd stick with American students too if I were to go to college abroad.

Immigrants' kids are still Americans. Are you excluding them from your circle just because they are Asian immigrants' kids?

Oh my god you’re so dense. I’m specifically talking about Asian immigrant students, who are significant block of American higher ed

They aren’t a block.

Seriously, why are Americans so set on lumping more than half of the world’s population into one category?

Do you really think a Korean kid and a Sri Lankan kid see each other as members of some tribe together?

This isn’t unique to Asian people. That’s just how race works.

How race works? Seriously?

If you put one Sri Lankan, one Korean, and one Indonesian student in a room with 7 white kids you would say it is 30% “Asian,” but the reality is that each of those students are a group of 1, a tiny minority.

Asian is just a catch all category, basically “other.”

[Anonymous]

So the adive is Howard or Spellman.
I wonder what Whites and Asians at those schools were thinking.

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Asian hate. See right through.

Bizarre conclusions on a pretty harmless post.

Liberal art colleges never attract many Asian students. Bring Asian in this conversation is clearly targeting Asian.

Take Williams as an example, the percentage of Asian students stay nearly unchanged over the years.
https://williamsrecord.com/467282/news/first-year-demographics-shift-slightly-following-affirmative-action-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Asians are not being "targeted" by OP. The issue is the Asian and White students will not want to be friends with and share in life with the non Asian or White students, so why would a non Asian or non White student subject themselves to that? What "Asians" have to understand is that you never want people talking about you, even in a netural way, otherwise you claim "Asian hate" but at the same time all over DCUM, "Asisans" have so much to say about black people, and even white people at times.

Most absurd assertion. Not in NYC anyway.

Come to California. Berkeley is insanely racially segregated. All asian groups basically everywhere that judge white students and especially other minority students. White students flock towards the greek life for their "community." It's pretty clear when these campuses are heavily segregated, and you really get to see how this generation operates. There are many other parts of the country where people are very very race-sensitive, and California is one of them.

Yes. I don't get this generation, as a Gen Xer. It is like they are turning back time. Or, did we increase immigration too fast in the past 20 to 30 years and there is not longer a sense of cohesion in this country at all?

Part of it is immigrant students who come from cultures where homogeneity is good and they prefer to stay with their cliques of international/their race students. Another part is higher ed becoming very diverse, potentially way too quickly and expecting the northeast boarding school generationally wealthy student to hang out with the rural, conservative queer kid is very unlikely to work in your favor. Diversity is great, but students will always find infrastructure and network in a way to stick to what they are used to and what they know.

Showing your true color. Xenophobia

...nothing about that is xenophobic. I'd stick with American students too if I were to go to college abroad.

Immigrants' kids are still Americans. Are you excluding them from your circle just because they are Asian immigrants' kids?

Oh my god you’re so dense. I’m specifically talking about Asian immigrant students, who are significant block of American higher ed

They aren’t a block.

Seriously, why are Americans so set on lumping more than half of the world’s population into one category?

Do you really think a Korean kid and a Sri Lankan kid see each other as members of some tribe together?

This isn’t unique to Asian people. That’s just how race works.

How race works? Seriously?

If you put one Sri Lankan, one Korean, and one Indonesian student in a room with 7 white kids you would say it is 30% “Asian,” but the reality is that each of those students are a group of 1, a tiny minority.

Asian is just a catch all category, basically “other.”

Yes…that’s how races work. You think Russians, Czech and white Americans are the same. You think Ugandans, Nigerians, and Black descendants of slaves are the same?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So the adive is Howard or Spellman.
I wonder what Whites and Asians at those schools were thinking.

? It’s Spelman btw. Named after a white family, same as Howard

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Asian hate. See right through.

Bizarre conclusions on a pretty harmless post.

Liberal art colleges never attract many Asian students. Bring Asian in this conversation is clearly targeting Asian.

Take Williams as an example, the percentage of Asian students stay nearly unchanged over the years.
https://williamsrecord.com/467282/news/first-year-demographics-shift-slightly-following-affirmative-action-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Asians are not being "targeted" by OP. The issue is the Asian and White students will not want to be friends with and share in life with the non Asian or White students, so why would a non Asian or non White student subject themselves to that? What "Asians" have to understand is that you never want people talking about you, even in a netural way, otherwise you claim "Asian hate" but at the same time all over DCUM, "Asisans" have so much to say about black people, and even white people at times.

Most absurd assertion. Not in NYC anyway.

Come to California. Berkeley is insanely racially segregated. All asian groups basically everywhere that judge white students and especially other minority students. White students flock towards the greek life for their "community." It's pretty clear when these campuses are heavily segregated, and you really get to see how this generation operates. There are many other parts of the country where people are very very race-sensitive, and California is one of them.

Yes. I don't get this generation, as a Gen Xer. It is like they are turning back time. Or, did we increase immigration too fast in the past 20 to 30 years and there is not longer a sense of cohesion in this country at all?

Part of it is immigrant students who come from cultures where homogeneity is good and they prefer to stay with their cliques of international/their race students. Another part is higher ed becoming very diverse, potentially way too quickly and expecting the northeast boarding school generationally wealthy student to hang out with the rural, conservative queer kid is very unlikely to work in your favor. Diversity is great, but students will always find infrastructure and network in a way to stick to what they are used to and what they know.

Showing your true color. Xenophobia

...nothing about that is xenophobic. I'd stick with American students too if I were to go to college abroad.

Immigrants' kids are still Americans. Are you excluding them from your circle just because they are Asian immigrants' kids?

Oh my god you’re so dense. I’m specifically talking about Asian immigrant students, who are significant block of American higher ed

They aren’t a block.

Seriously, why are Americans so set on lumping more than half of the world’s population into one category?

Do you really think a Korean kid and a Sri Lankan kid see each other as members of some tribe together?

This isn’t unique to Asian people. That’s just how race works.

+1, this is a weird insistence by people on this forum that Asian people are so foreign to the rest of us that we wouldn’t understand that people from different countries…have different cultures and practices. Yes, we are aware. You aren’t special. Just be a person beyond your race.

You get it! We shouldn’t be thinking about how “diverse” we are in one race. Just treat people as people with respect.

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Anonymous wrote:this is a troll post

Asian hate. See right through.

Bizarre conclusions on a pretty harmless post.

Liberal art colleges never attract many Asian students. Bring Asian in this conversation is clearly targeting Asian.

Take Williams as an example, the percentage of Asian students stay nearly unchanged over the years.
https://williamsrecord.com/467282/news/first-year-demographics-shift-slightly-following-affirmative-action-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Asians are not being "targeted" by OP. The issue is the Asian and White students will not want to be friends with and share in life with the non Asian or White students, so why would a non Asian or non White student subject themselves to that? What "Asians" have to understand is that you never want people talking about you, even in a netural way, otherwise you claim "Asian hate" but at the same time all over DCUM, "Asisans" have so much to say about black people, and even white people at times.

Most absurd assertion. Not in NYC anyway.

Come to California. Berkeley is insanely racially segregated. All asian groups basically everywhere that judge white students and especially other minority students. White students flock towards the greek life for their "community." It's pretty clear when these campuses are heavily segregated, and you really get to see how this generation operates. There are many other parts of the country where people are very very race-sensitive, and California is one of them.

Yes. I don't get this generation, as a Gen Xer. It is like they are turning back time. Or, did we increase immigration too fast in the past 20 to 30 years and there is not longer a sense of cohesion in this country at all?

Part of it is immigrant students who come from cultures where homogeneity is good and they prefer to stay with their cliques of international/their race students. Another part is higher ed becoming very diverse, potentially way too quickly and expecting the northeast boarding school generationally wealthy student to hang out with the rural, conservative queer kid is very unlikely to work in your favor. Diversity is great, but students will always find infrastructure and network in a way to stick to what they are used to and what they know.

Showing your true color. Xenophobia

...nothing about that is xenophobic. I'd stick with American students too if I were to go to college abroad.

Immigrants' kids are still Americans. Are you excluding them from your circle just because they are Asian immigrants' kids?

Oh my god you’re so dense. I’m specifically talking about Asian immigrant students, who are significant block of American higher ed

They aren’t a block.

Seriously, why are Americans so set on lumping more than half of the world’s population into one category?

Do you really think a Korean kid and a Sri Lankan kid see each other as members of some tribe together?

This isn’t unique to Asian people. That’s just how race works.

+1, this is a weird insistence by people on this forum that Asian people are so foreign to the rest of us that we wouldn’t understand that people from different countries…have different cultures and practices. Yes, we are aware. You aren’t special. Just be a person beyond your race.

You get it! We shouldn’t be thinking about how “diverse” we are in one race. Just treat people as people with respect.

100%! Coleman Hughes got it right when he declared America racist for believing being color blind is racist

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Anonymous wrote:this is a troll post

Asian hate. See right through.

Bizarre conclusions on a pretty harmless post.

Liberal art colleges never attract many Asian students. Bring Asian in this conversation is clearly targeting Asian.

Take Williams as an example, the percentage of Asian students stay nearly unchanged over the years.
https://williamsrecord.com/467282/news/first-year-demographics-shift-slightly-following-affirmative-action-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Asians are not being "targeted" by OP. The issue is the Asian and White students will not want to be friends with and share in life with the non Asian or White students, so why would a non Asian or non White student subject themselves to that? What "Asians" have to understand is that you never want people talking about you, even in a netural way, otherwise you claim "Asian hate" but at the same time all over DCUM, "Asisans" have so much to say about black people, and even white people at times.

Most absurd assertion. Not in NYC anyway.

Come to California. Berkeley is insanely racially segregated. All asian groups basically everywhere that judge white students and especially other minority students. White students flock towards the greek life for their "community." It's pretty clear when these campuses are heavily segregated, and you really get to see how this generation operates. There are many other parts of the country where people are very very race-sensitive, and California is one of them.

Yes. I don't get this generation, as a Gen Xer. It is like they are turning back time. Or, did we increase immigration too fast in the past 20 to 30 years and there is not longer a sense of cohesion in this country at all?

Part of it is immigrant students who come from cultures where homogeneity is good and they prefer to stay with their cliques of international/their race students. Another part is higher ed becoming very diverse, potentially way too quickly and expecting the northeast boarding school generationally wealthy student to hang out with the rural, conservative queer kid is very unlikely to work in your favor. Diversity is great, but students will always find infrastructure and network in a way to stick to what they are used to and what they know.

Showing your true color. Xenophobia

...nothing about that is xenophobic. I'd stick with American students too if I were to go to college abroad.

Immigrants' kids are still Americans. Are you excluding them from your circle just because they are Asian immigrants' kids?

Oh my god you’re so dense. I’m specifically talking about Asian immigrant students, who are significant block of American higher ed

They aren’t a block.

Seriously, why are Americans so set on lumping more than half of the world’s population into one category?

Do you really think a Korean kid and a Sri Lankan kid see each other as members of some tribe together?

This isn’t unique to Asian people. That’s just how race works.

+1, this is a weird insistence by people on this forum that Asian people are so foreign to the rest of us that we wouldn’t understand that people from different countries…have different cultures and practices. Yes, we are aware. You aren’t special. Just be a person beyond your race.

You get it! We shouldn’t be thinking about how “diverse” we are in one race. Just treat people as people with respect.

+1 just be a person beyond your race. You can take pride in your heritage, acknowledge the wrongs and work on addressing current problems but you’re ultimately hurting and limiting yourself by making everything in life about race. Signed, minority parent.

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Anonymous wrote:this is a troll post

Asian hate. See right through.

Bizarre conclusions on a pretty harmless post.

Liberal art colleges never attract many Asian students. Bring Asian in this conversation is clearly targeting Asian.

Take Williams as an example, the percentage of Asian students stay nearly unchanged over the years.
https://williamsrecord.com/467282/news/first-year-demographics-shift-slightly-following-affirmative-action-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Asians are not being "targeted" by OP. The issue is the Asian and White students will not want to be friends with and share in life with the non Asian or White students, so why would a non Asian or non White student subject themselves to that? What "Asians" have to understand is that you never want people talking about you, even in a netural way, otherwise you claim "Asian hate" but at the same time all over DCUM, "Asisans" have so much to say about black people, and even white people at times.

Most absurd assertion. Not in NYC anyway.

Come to California. Berkeley is insanely racially segregated. All asian groups basically everywhere that judge white students and especially other minority students. White students flock towards the greek life for their "community." It's pretty clear when these campuses are heavily segregated, and you really get to see how this generation operates. There are many other parts of the country where people are very very race-sensitive, and California is one of them.

Yes. I don't get this generation, as a Gen Xer. It is like they are turning back time. Or, did we increase immigration too fast in the past 20 to 30 years and there is not longer a sense of cohesion in this country at all?

Part of it is immigrant students who come from cultures where homogeneity is good and they prefer to stay with their cliques of international/their race students. Another part is higher ed becoming very diverse, potentially way too quickly and expecting the northeast boarding school generationally wealthy student to hang out with the rural, conservative queer kid is very unlikely to work in your favor. Diversity is great, but students will always find infrastructure and network in a way to stick to what they are used to and what they know.

Showing your true color. Xenophobia

...nothing about that is xenophobic. I'd stick with American students too if I were to go to college abroad.

Immigrants' kids are still Americans. Are you excluding them from your circle just because they are Asian immigrants' kids?

Oh my god you’re so dense. I’m specifically talking about Asian immigrant students, who are significant block of American higher ed

They aren’t a block.

Seriously, why are Americans so set on lumping more than half of the world’s population into one category?

Do you really think a Korean kid and a Sri Lankan kid see each other as members of some tribe together?

This isn’t unique to Asian people. That’s just how race works.

How race works? Seriously?

If you put one Sri Lankan, one Korean, and one Indonesian student in a room with 7 white kids you would say it is 30% “Asian,” but the reality is that each of those students are a group of 1, a tiny minority.

Asian is just a catch all category, basically “other.”

Yes…that’s how races work. You think Russians, Czech and white Americans are the same. You think Ugandans, Nigerians, and Black descendants of slaves are the same?

Yes, race is a social construct. Back in the day we learned this in college sociology courses, before identify politics took over. But now, "racial" group use this social construct to their advantage, to advance the model minority myth, for example, to make it seem that this country has been waiting for them all of these years to finally thrive and become the America that it was meant to me.

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Asian hate. See right through.

Bizarre conclusions on a pretty harmless post.

Liberal art colleges never attract many Asian students. Bring Asian in this conversation is clearly targeting Asian.

Take Williams as an example, the percentage of Asian students stay nearly unchanged over the years.
https://williamsrecord.com/467282/news/first-year-demographics-shift-slightly-following-affirmative-action-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com

Asians are not being "targeted" by OP. The issue is the Asian and White students will not want to be friends with and share in life with the non Asian or White students, so why would a non Asian or non White student subject themselves to that? What "Asians" have to understand is that you never want people talking about you, even in a netural way, otherwise you claim "Asian hate" but at the same time all over DCUM, "Asisans" have so much to say about black people, and even white people at times.

Most absurd assertion. Not in NYC anyway.

Come to California. Berkeley is insanely racially segregated. All asian groups basically everywhere that judge white students and especially other minority students. White students flock towards the greek life for their "community." It's pretty clear when these campuses are heavily segregated, and you really get to see how this generation operates. There are many other parts of the country where people are very very race-sensitive, and California is one of them.

Yes. I don't get this generation, as a Gen Xer. It is like they are turning back time. Or, did we increase immigration too fast in the past 20 to 30 years and there is not longer a sense of cohesion in this country at all?

Part of it is immigrant students who come from cultures where homogeneity is good and they prefer to stay with their cliques of international/their race students. Another part is higher ed becoming very diverse, potentially way too quickly and expecting the northeast boarding school generationally wealthy student to hang out with the rural, conservative queer kid is very unlikely to work in your favor. Diversity is great, but students will always find infrastructure and network in a way to stick to what they are used to and what they know.

Showing your true color. Xenophobia

...nothing about that is xenophobic. I'd stick with American students too if I were to go to college abroad.

Immigrants' kids are still Americans. Are you excluding them from your circle just because they are Asian immigrants' kids?

Oh my god you’re so dense. I’m specifically talking about Asian immigrant students, who are significant block of American higher ed

They aren’t a block.

Seriously, why are Americans so set on lumping more than half of the world’s population into one category?

Do you really think a Korean kid and a Sri Lankan kid see each other as members of some tribe together?

This isn’t unique to Asian people. That’s just how race works.

+1, this is a weird insistence by people on this forum that Asian people are so foreign to the rest of us that we wouldn’t understand that people from different countries…have different cultures and practices. Yes, we are aware. You aren’t special. Just be a person beyond your race.

You get it! We shouldn’t be thinking about how “diverse” we are in one race. Just treat people as people with respect.

+1 just be a person beyond your race. You can take pride in your heritage, acknowledge the wrongs and work on addressing current problems but you’re ultimately hurting and limiting yourself by making everything in life about race. Signed, minority parent.

when someone calls themselves a "minority" they mean Asian or Hispanic, just so you know. They float between being a "minority" when it is convenient or on the other hand part of a superior "family-oriented, education-oriented" culture when convenient.